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As a person who has had 4 decent bikes stolen.
A new lock is being developed that requires social funding - i have no personal interest in this product.. just wanted to share it.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1255965155/the-hench-bicycle-lock-see-video
[i]cloud funding[/i]
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crowd funding
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I like the way it attaches to the frame.
so not showing us the stanley knife or cigarette light attack then...
I reckon a sharp knife, out comes the wadding, then a snip on the chain and away.
That's what I thought Stoner - one of those chef's blowtorches might get through the outer pretty quick though!
Its not going to make me change from using my Almax
I think the easiest to carry locks are the ones you can wear like a belt - the hiplock or something similar - you really don't notice the weight so much when it is around your waist.
I got as far as the haircut, and had to close the tab.
He states he'll give up Uni if he reaches £25k..
Whats this with a stanley knife and ciggie lighter?? Never heard of this.
I'm afraid it Breaches my most fundamental rule of investment...
Under no circumstances am I allowed to provide any funds that may find their way to 2nd tier Wannbe Hipsters...
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Oh Dear...
Sorry [I]Felix[/I], please re-apply when you've ceased being a ridiculous excuse for a human being... And have a better idea.
So it's some Kevlar and a chain...
I'm with the above. Cut the Kevlar wadding out and snip with croppers surely.
To design a secure bike chain you need to think more like a thief than a hipster. :-\
I quite like the idea of making it fit as a top tube pad. But then you still have to carry a great big padlock around in the pocket of your sister's jeans. I think Hiplok cornered the market with this type of lock.
And he needs to work on his arms if he's going to test it to destruction with bolt croppers. He could hardly pick them up, let alone use them. #BloodyStudents.
you are all missing the point its not that its a particularly effective lock, it's that he's made it look like a top tube pad, to appeal to London Hipster types (well London hipster types living in about 2011)...
I think the best theft countermeasure he has actually come up with is his utterly crappy looking bike TBH...
£25K?!??! to develop a chain wrapped in fabric???
FAAAACCCK ORRRRFF You dirty little chancer!
Take your BSc, Get a hair cut and some grownup clothes and go and find a proper job....
Heh...we're all old 🙁
I'm really not sure that picture of him and his lock is a good advert.... If he is only prepaired to lock up that bike with his "invention"
I'm out
If It had a Kevlar/ Nomex outer braid it would work much better, as it is I don't see it surviving a cut / part fibres / bolt cropper attack
That chain looks pretty thin to me ,I think someone who is more than 3 stone(2 stone without Phil Oakeys flick) would get through that pretty sharpish with the bolt cutters he was using.
I saw video and thought the same
Remove kevlar cut chain
I can forgive the lifestyle factors, but £100 contribution for a lock?
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I can forgive the lifestyle factors, but £100 contribution for a lock?
You could buy a lock for that.
tooling costs for all of the separate parts will add up to a few thousand, and everything left will pay for an initial order from the manufacturer.
With a rock solid business plan like that, how can he fail 🙂
So everyone is suggestong cutting or burning the kevlar? There's a reason kevlar is used in slash/stab proof vessts. Also kevlar withstands up to 850 degree s c
are you suggesting kevlar is uncutable or that after the video the chain was not exposed and easy to crop?
Fart about witbt the kevlar as much as you want I am gunning for the lock and he angle grinder!
Hey, it's not a totally bad idea and props to him for trying on KS, making a prototype and testing it on camera etc.
BUT:
Pretty sure that you could remove that Kevlar wadding as step 1, and then
Step 2:Massive bolt croppers wielded by ginormous man who uses them correctly [i.e. place one end on the ground and bounce on it]
would remove the chain.
So.
4/10.
People slagging him off for being a hipster really should go outside more. Like you were never a "cool dude"?!
I might send him a pair of bar end plugs, though, instead.
He's not getting my money, but...
If you can build a lock that requires two different tools to defeat, you shift yourself a notch up the more-hassle-than-the-next-bike scale, which is what you need to do to beat the opportunists. This lock may achieve that at a reasonable weight, and having a reasonable way to carry it on the bike is certainly a good thing.
If you want to see how to use bolt croppers properly, have a Google for the Almax test videos. Nothing that you can be bothered to carry on a bike is going to trouble Mr Almax and his 42" croppers. Fortunately, most opportunists can't be bothered with 42" bolt croppers.
If you can build a lock that requires two different tools to defeat, you shift yourself a notch up the more-hassle-than-the-next-bike scale, which is what you need to do to beat the opportunists. This lock may achieve that at a reasonable weight, and having a reasonable way to carry it on the bike is certainly a good thing.
Don't worry, someone could start a kickstarter project which locked your bike by encasing it in 2 tons of carbonite and the first ten responses would still be a mixture of complaints that the lock is vulnerable to a JCB mounted pneumatic drill and comments about the designer's hairdo.
I might send him a pair of bar end plugs, though, instead.
Send him a rear brake too while you're at it.
Send him a fixed wheel so he doesnt have to pretend anymore.
he's got a good idea for attaching to the bike, but the effectiveness of his chain/lock mechanism isn't any better than anything on the market. maybe he just needs to re-market it as a top tube mounting lock and forget about it being indestructible (to be fair who on earth would nick his bike anyway?)
Seems like a good idea to me, particularly if that's a good quality chain inside the kevlar, though I'd still wear it it carry in a bag. Looks worse on the top tube.
However, retail's going to be 40-80 quid, or you can get the kickstarter one for 100. Hmmm. Didn't pass the marketing module of his course clearly.
