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 DezB
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Is a Drop-in headset the same thing as an Integrated Headset?


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:39 am
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maybe


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:40 am
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It depends


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:42 am
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Dammit.


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:44 am
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Eranu.


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:49 am
 DezB
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This place used to be helpful. 😥


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:51 am
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What the bike, give us the info and we can google it for you 😉


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:52 am
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[i]This place used to be helpful.[/i]

Yes


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:54 am
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Specialized?


 
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My guess:

No

"Drop in" is only part of an headset? Can be integrated, can be not integrated...?

Guessing only.
Making noise
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Posted : 17/01/2018 10:55 am
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Well, I know which headset I need - this'un:
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Now, a couple of brands that I've found (Ritchey, Syncros) call em drop-in and others call em integrated, so, as the Ritchey and Syncros ones are a bit cheaper and easier to get hold of.. well, y'knaa.. ^^ That question


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:57 am
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That is a specific code if that is what you need then that is what you will get regardless of what it is called, it's a good bit of standardisation (or at least giving them all a name)


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 10:59 am
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Yes. I think!

I think of them as "drop in" as you have noting to press into the frame like A Headset cups. You just drop em in and they mate to the angle in the head tube.

Was that helpful?


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:02 am
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answer will be printed on the crown race

... but you can only see that once it arrives 😀


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:03 am
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Not sure what you mean there Mike. See, the Ritchey, has that sizing, but doesn't use that exact code (or maybe it does and yet is called drop-in)
Here - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ritchey-wcs-headset-lowers-drop-in/rp-prod130225

Headset shopping experience is limited after having a Hope headset for 10 years not needing touching, then getting a frame with a tapered integrated Cane Creek and it going crap after a few months!


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:03 am
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Sorry I thought you meant they both had that exact code, that is the bit that is the standard, all IS 42/28.6 top cups should fit the same.


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:06 am
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That's Cane Creek's headset finder result for my frame.


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:13 am
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Mu.


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:14 am
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integrated = the frame has a cup cut into the headtube.

semi-integrated = the headtube has a permanent cup fitted already that cannot be removed.

traditional press fit = you have to press in a cup.

work out which your bike has. But mike is correct, all headset labelled with that code will fit.


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:23 am
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It can depend on headset manufacturer but I found on Brand X tapered headsets the bottom bearings identical but the top bearing had an ever so slightly smaller outer diameter with the integrated set. The integrated coming with matching cups obvs.


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:26 am
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integrated = the frame has a cup cut into the headtube.
semi-integrated = the headtube has a permanent cup fitted already that cannot be removed.
traditional press fit = you have to press in a cup

I know all those, ta. Question in first post still not really answered.


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:27 am
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Not the same thing but behave in a similar way, though the real answer is order one with that exact code on it.


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:28 am
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Question in first post still not really answered.

2nd post answers it perfectly 😆


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:35 am
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Is a Drop-in headset the same thing as an Integrated Headset?

still - my guess:

Simple No

8)


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 11:39 am
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[i]2nd post answers it perfectly[/i]

Indeed. I'm glad it was simple 😀


 
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Yes, drop-in and integrated are [url= https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/ritchey-comp-headset-upper-part-1-1-8-is42-28.6-8.3mm-424730 ]used interchangeably[/url].

Assuming Cane Creek correctly identified the headset for your mistery frame, you should be able to use any IS42/28.6 IS52/40 pair. For the bottom part I'm pretty sure you could get away with the bearing and crown race from any tapered headset; as mentioned above, the top part may have a slightly differently sized bearing, so it would be preferrable to get the correct "IS" part.

integrated = the frame has a cup cut into the headtube.
semi-integrated = the headtube has a permanent cup fitted already that cannot be removed.
traditional press fit = you have to press in a cup
That does make sense, however most of the time "semi-integrated" refers to zero stack (ZS) headsets, which are pressed in (integrated - IS, semi-integrated - ZS, external/traditional - EC).


 
Posted : 17/01/2018 12:13 pm
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Ah yes!

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Posted : 17/01/2018 12:19 pm

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