[Closed] Hayfield locals - Is this a green lane ?

using google street map, there's a sign on the gate at the northern end saying private. The google satellite view doesn't look too promising either 🙂

mmm, thats what I thought, just strange how it leeds to the old Crossing cottage... someone said there was a wrestler who used to live in that cottage, Clark Mellor - Alias Hans Strieger.

I know where it starts and finishes and was coincidentally wondering about it the other day. I've always asssumed that it's a private drive/access to the house next to the SVT there. I'm not sure what use it would be anyway. 😕

Just talked about this in the office, apparently there is a history of the wrestler blocking the lane with boulders some years back to stop access.

aha can of [url= http://www.bikemagic.com/forum/forummessages.asp?dt=&UTN=65687&V=6&last=1&SP= ]worms[/url]...

Perhaps slightly off topic - if so...apologies, but why would you want to descend that anyway? Surely the pennine BW 1km east which is a cracking bit of descent is a much better option. It involves less descent on road, and drops you out 200 metres from SV trail. I may be missing something here - if so - like I said - apologies.

Yes, going that way tonight now, just mulnching round the map and saw a green lane... awlays like to explore as you just never know 🙂

I used it a few times years ago, and had a chat with the 'ex-wrestler' when he spotted me once. He was fine about bikes using it, but not cars. I don't know what the current owners' attitude is, and the trail isn't particularly interesting or useful.
Does anyone remember how he used to leave dead chickens hanging from the trees above the SVT?

simonm - Fair enough - You're a man after my own heart 😀

Hate going out to do a ride and not being able to ride a new bit of trail somewhere

I was about to say there was some discussion about that some years back - that's my thread over on BM 🙂

SO, it's not a "Green lane" as that term means nothing legally - in fact I'm not sure what the legal terms are now, it might be BOAT (bridleway open to all traffic) or Restricted byway, or just a bridleway. In any case it's fine to ride your bike along. Remember that bridleways are also for horses and they might fancy a trail that doesn;t have bikers battering down it at 25 mph 😉

Below data & application reference number (if you want to read more) for the route you show, taken from the Planning Inspectorate wed site.
An application to claim bridleway status for this route, which runs between the Sett Valley Way & Swallow House Lane Hayfield was rejected in September 2009. The main reason for rejection was that although parties claimed to have ridden the route on four legged beasts, sufficient evidence existed to show that current & previous landowners had never intended the route to be a right of way i.e. the land owner/owners had maintained locked gates & displayed warning notices on the route that no public right of access existed. Also I think the order decision advises that the bridge across the River Sett has fallen down:

Order Decision FPS/U1050/7/48
This Order is made under Section 53(2)(b) of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 and is known as the Derbyshire County Council (Public Bridleway No 89 from Swallow House
Lane to Public Bridleway No 81 on the Sett Valley Trail – Parish of Hayfield) Modification
Order 2006. It was sealed on 15 June 2006.

The Order proposes to add to the Definitive Map and Statement a bridleway running
from Swallow House Lane to the Sett Valley Trail, Hayfield, as detailed on the Order
Map and Schedule……………………….

40. Having regard to these and all other matters raised, I conclude that the Order should not be confirmed.

Regards
Keith T

ermm, lots of double negative legal language there, the order should NOT be confirmed, means it never became a bridleway then ?

simonm - Member

ermm, lots of double negative legal language there, the order should NOT be confirmed, means it never became a bridleway then ?

Sadly, you are correct. 🙁

As nbt said

Sorry I forgot to separate my comments/somethingion from those extracted from the Planning Inspectorate web site. I did use the word rejected twice in paragraph two to describe the status of the application.

The ten page PI report on the application makes great reading!

The Rights of Way section of the PI site makes a good read if you have time to kill; the shear length of time taken to process & review any application is staggering. The dedication of those proposing & progressing applications i.e. bridleways groups, has to be admired.

PS to nbt: The group ride photos from early October particularly Cobden Cross brought tears to my eyes; I lived in the Marple area for forty years & still own a house there. Currently I am exiled to Northampton due to a change in working circumstances. I just love the trails around Marple. Can’t wait till the end of October when me & my Cindercone will be back for a couple of days!

Keith T

The dedication of those proposing & progressing applications i.e. bridleways groups, has to be admired.

Very much agreed.