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Going on a trip overseas soon for some riding. Have been told to buy cable inners by the guide. Am thinking no chance I am going to need them, but wouldn't hurt to have them. Also my cables are routed internally making it seem even more pointless.

What does the hive mind think?

P.S: Mechanic at the bike shop suggested taking a spare tyre because they cost a fortune on the continent. Is this true?


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 9:56 pm
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In 22 years I've never needed a gear cable on a ride. Needed a tyre in the Lakes a couple of months ago though.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 9:58 pm
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I always carry a spare brake and gear cable on my Tourer. I've never had to use them but I've had to lend a gear cable to someone else....


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 9:59 pm
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yes


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 9:59 pm
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Never broken a gear cable on my mtb and never ridden with anyone who has in 20+ years. Tyres are generally about the same price as here but you often get a limited choice at full retail price.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:01 pm
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managed to snap the nipple off a gear cable a couple of times, once a couple of miles into the Karrimor route at CyB, spent the rest of the ride with two usable gears. 46x12 and 36x12.

the other time was in the work stand, a brand new cable, i can only assume it was a dodgy not made quite right one.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:01 pm
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yes but never had one.
Where are you going? I pop one in my tool bit when I'm off somewhere on a long trip. Even if it's internal so long as you can thread it through then it will be fine.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:02 pm
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Yep, 3 cables in three days in Morzine, all different bikes.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:03 pm
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I went on a tour of the Lakes last year & one rider snapped a rear mech cable.
I always carry one since.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:03 pm
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Yip.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:04 pm
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No, but you never know.

I'd take a tire and spokes first tho.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:07 pm
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Not exactly gonna overload your pac is it !


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:07 pm
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Managed to damage a cable outer as has a mate. Had a cable inner but in both occasions they were of no use.

If it does break and you don't have one the guide will probably be annoyed with you 🙂


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:11 pm
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I take plenty of spares when i go away. much easier to fix it if you've already got it. + in a week away you can get through a months worth of riding.

if i'm going on a wilderness trip i might be tempted to carry on in the group; not much weight and could ruin a ride if onebroke.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:13 pm
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Seen gear housing explode a couple of times and once rode with a guy who ran a very poorly maintained bike who snapped a front mech cable. I just uncounted it and then refixed it between the mech and the bottle cage bolt to give him middle ring.


 
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Not exactly gonna overload your pac is it !

+1


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:21 pm
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I've seen a couple of inner get snapped - it doesn't take to much of a tangle. if you have a spare inner you can always fix the bike in an more desirable gear if all else fails.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:22 pm
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Cheers for the responses. I will add spokes to the list of things to take too!

@mikewsmith Going to Spain. Trevelez to be specific if you know where that is?


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:23 pm
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I would closely follow whatever advice your guide provides.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:29 pm
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No idea where that is but lots of places have fairly poor bike shops in comparison to the UK.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:33 pm
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I'd never seen one snap until mine did in the Alps. Rear cable.
Probably due to the cable being pretty old and me using middleburn oilers to keep it running smooth - didnt think about the cable giving up/fatigue.
Having said that, it wasnt the end of the world, just adjusted the mech limits so I was in middle cassette and I still had 2 gears, fine until I got to a shop in the eve. The bike parts inc tyres,cables and pads were same price in the local bike shops as there are here. But if a guide recommends, then I would take his/her advice


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:38 pm
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Not gear cable but had a gear outer split.

Luckily a few cable ties sorted the problem.

Do carry spare gear cable on long trips though


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:38 pm
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Yes

back in the day with down tube routed cables I took a rock strike that dam well nearly severed the cable - was very odd !

More recently have had cables get kinked from being badly transported in mates cars and once some kinked outer and inner in a stack - so yes I would take some esp if abroad - spokes and a tyre a good idea and a tyre boot.

have a fun trip


 
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I've never snapped a cable myself, but a guy we were riding with in the alps broke one.
Meant he had to limp back and get one at the shop, so we lost some riding time.
If he had one then it could have been fixed in 5mins and back to the riding.
Since then I always carry one in my backpack.
They take up no room and don't weigh anything so why not.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:40 pm
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+1 for doing what the guide says. don't want him to take his frustrations out on your legs for the rest of the holiday......


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:45 pm
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Only ever once needed a gear cable and don't think I will ever have a repeat. Sticky cables and far too eager with tightening the bolt. You know when the cable is completely frayed and flat! I was 13 so think I could be excused. Nowadays don't think it would be an issue.


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:47 pm
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Isn't it down to how far you are likely to be from the nearest shop/road / your car? I wouldn't carry one around a trail centre or for any local rides. Heading off to be several hours into the "wilds" though?


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 10:50 pm
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I've broken 2 rear shift cables, both Gore ones! They rusted through.

If you're going on a big trip, then surely its worth taking plenty of spares. Why risk missing a day or more of riding?


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 11:05 pm
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If you're going on a big trip, then surely its worth taking plenty of spares. Why risk missing a day or more of riding?

i dont think he intended on not taking one. Just seems to me he wanted to start a thread about nothing much. if the guide had told him to bring a spare frame or something then that would be worth a discussion. imho of course


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 11:07 pm
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I was a guide in a past life. There is no harm as a client in carrying a spare mech hanger, gear cable, several tubes, a pump and gaffa tape, a small first aid kit and a multitool just like you would at home.
While any guide worth their salt will have the same, if you are self sufficient and prove it when needs must, you're way more likely to get to ride those trails the 'punters' will never see.
I used to plan the week pretty much on how that weeks guests put their bikes together (and was rarely too far wrong) and I know climbing instructors who know how their clients will fair just from seeing how they pulled their rucsacs and put them on out of the minibus 🙂


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 11:20 pm
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In terms of spokes do people just carry the longest size you might need?


 
Posted : 27/11/2012 11:34 pm
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A properly adjusted rear mech is worth one hundred spokes of any size....


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 12:26 am
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I never leave the house without a spare frame, I've cracked 2 so you never know


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 12:37 am
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Never on a ride- well, I broke a cable once, but it's not like it causes a real problem, you just have to ride on in whatever your mech's end gear is (you could possibly bodge it over a bit with the end screws)

But, if you're going on a longer trip, it's more likely to be worth it since you can fix things between rides.

(PS- Curiousyellow, the film or the feather?)


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 12:43 am
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I broke an inner rear gear cable midway round a loop on East Dartmoor a few months back, I've always carried a spare but this was the first time I needed it, so glad to have it as we were mid loop and quite some way from the car, plus it meant that I got to carry on with the rest of a great day in the saddle.
Not so great the morning after when I realised that the jumping gears weren't down to poor gear set up post cable replacement but more down to the bent swingarm (and xtr shadow plus mech). Oops. Probably a bit overkill carrying a spare frame in your pack but you never know.........


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 1:56 am
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I've snapped a rear cable whilst on the Quantocks. Obviously this was as far away from the car as we could be. Always carry a spare since. I tend to look after my bikes much better nowadays too.


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 5:02 am
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I always carry one, as do my guides. And a length of outer. I've had to use it twice now. IMO it's not something everyone in the group needs to carry, if one person (the guide) has it then it's enough.

Similarly with spokes. I've never had to put one in during a ride. I always tell people to take a spoke if they have funny sizes or Mavic wheels but otherwise I have a box of spares and a friendly LBS.

Tyres are expensive here. They generally cost around €40-60 for a decent tyre. I think if your tyres are good before going then you don't need to take a spare, it would save you maybe a tenner or a tenner and a half so isn't worth the hassle for the extra baggage. The same goes for brake pads, you will pay a premium in most shops for those so it's worth taking a set with you.

Obviously mech hangers are essential. We have had a few people on my spare bike due to snapped mech hangers. I also ask people to take spare tubes and a pump but they don't need to take shock pump, first aid etc.

Worth saying that your guide will know their area best so I'd go with their advice. Maybe it's an area where there are lots of problems with snapped cables or there are no good bike shops. They'll tell you what you need.


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 6:56 am
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Mate snapped his rear gear cable a couple of weeks back, wasn't even on a particularly difficult bit of track - twisty forest singletrack, not a rock in sight...

Had a quick google for bike shops near Tevelez - they all seem to be in Granada, which would be a bit of pain if you did break one and there weren't any spares about. Like everyone else has said - they don't weigh much, stick one in the pack!


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 8:00 am
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I've replaced them for other people out on the trail, once somewhere in Wales ( I forget where) when it snapped the cable at the clamp on the rear mech & pulled through, so put a new one in so he could carry on his ride.
Changed inner & outer on Exmoor for a client on a weekend trip as the cables were so dirty & gritty it wouldn't shift-that had just been into a large well known chain shop in London to be 'serviced' only three days earlier!
So yes, take spare cables.


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 8:03 am
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Have purchased the cables already so I'll take them anyway. People I'm riding with are on the lesser side of prepared so it won't hurt to carry them like most have said.

Have added spoke to checklist too. Tyres are nearly new and tubeless (taking spare inner tubes too though). So are wheels. Already take shock pump, spare mech hanger and tyre boots with me on longer rides anyway.

Really grateful for all the advice and some interesting points in there. Thank you!

@Northwind feather 🙂


 
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With spokes, the best thing to do is buy all the spare sizes you need, then blu tack them into your bar end plugs. That way if you have multiple bikes you'll always have the right spoke (rather than casrrying 4x n spokes in your pack, where n is number of bikes). Ditto quick links taped inside brake levers, brakepads and mech hanger between saddle rails, tube taped to seatpost/frame.

About the only stuff I need to carry on my back now on short rides is a CO2 inflator and a mutltool. Longer rides I'd still take a more coprehensive kit with cables, zip ties, pump, first aid (plus space blanket), etc. But keeping bike specific stuff on the frame makes life easier.


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 8:51 am
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i drove to the Qtox a few years ago, rode to the 1st descent where sponging machines gear cable snapped, we walked slowly back to the car then drove home...after that i always carry one, it weighs nowt and could save a long walk back...

admittedly the rest of my backpack is sadly lacking save for a few old power links and old jelly babies.


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 9:41 am
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They generally cost around €40-60 for a decent tyre

And you'll find it's the same price than in the UK 😉


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 10:29 am
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I did have to buy one at Swinnertons at Cannock once and fit it on the spot- it had frayed near the derailleur in such a way that shifting went right out the window.

Generally I'd think it's a bit OTT, unless you're touring somewhere for an extended period away from bike shops. For a week's riding abroad it's unlikely you'd need one.

That said, they're cheap, light and small, and you've presumably paid a lot of money for the trip so it would be a shame to have it compromised over a little thing. Also maybe the guides know something you don't when it comes to how frequently they need them so I'd just follow their advice in this case.


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 10:59 am
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Just seen a mates facebook status.... he's broken the gear cable on his road bike!!


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 12:31 pm
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I have cycled round Trevelez, it is lovely, try pop into the shop in the main square that has all the funny hats. The riding round there is great, best I have ridden. You will have a ball round there. I would take a cable, just in case though.


 
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Just seen a mates facebook status.... he's broken the gear cable on his road bike!!

Insane

to put that as your facebook status!!


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 12:43 pm
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Right, I'm repeating myself here, but what's this "Glad I had a spare so I could carry on with my ride?" It's not like a puncture or chain, if a gear cable snaps you just can't change that end's gears any more, but nothing stops you from riding on with the gears you still have.


 
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I imagine it's in case the zombies attack and you need to snare a [i]conejo[/i] while avoiding the major cities.


 
Posted : 28/11/2012 1:10 pm
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Never needed to replace one on the trails but still carry one every time.
Better to have it and not need it than not have it and need it.


 
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I always carry one. Broke two cables over the last 9yrs of riding.


 
Posted : 29/11/2012 5:11 pm
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only ever had one snap in 25+ years of mtb.
just adjusted the limit screw up to the middle sprocket and carried on with a 3 speed mtb.
naturally, i was 45 miles from home at the time (sods law etc).
guide knows best id say.


 
Posted : 29/11/2012 5:21 pm

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