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Not a troll !!

I had a shot a few years back and was blown away(10 min) around small loop ... Very nearly bought one last year but money was tight ..

Couple of lads I know got some and raved about them and were never off them but last few months they've never even touched them 😕

I love all types of cycling and been pulled in before by spurious claims/products 😳

But the more I see of them they seem to me utter shite and niche too far ?


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:30 pm
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You are entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong.


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:32 pm
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Specialist tools that got marketed to a wide audience.


 
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I've recently bought one and I'm loving it. Can't see the honeymoon period ending any time soon.


 
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They have their place, but having been off the bike and doing more walking recently, I think I've realised that their place is broadly described as not too soft snow, sand, or places that are more easily and just as enjoyably traversed on foot.

Some people I know love theirs though, which is fine, they probably think more than one of my bikes are fairly pointless.


 
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So.....let me get this right...... you were "blown away" and your mates "raved about them" and bought some?

Must be shit right enough.


 
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there're not for everyone


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:36 pm
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If it looks like a troll and smells like one....

Everyone has their own trails and preferences - for some folks a fat bike suits them perfectly, others just like them time to time. Looks like you've come to the conclusion they are not right for you. Fair enough, but making a blanket statment like 'utter shite' [i]is[/i] trolling...


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:37 pm
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Strava told me fat is as fast as skinny. Skinny bike given away.


 
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I was blown away by the OP, it was rubbish, I'll be sticking with the village bike from now on.


 
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No.


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:40 pm
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If it looks like a troll and smells like one....

No, no. We have been assured...
having been off the bike and doing more walking recently

I was out for a pleasant walk yesterday and every time it went downhill I was yearning to be on a bike.


 
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Ive got one, it tends to get used sporadically. Its certainly been hanging up unused for the last month as any riding time has been the big sus bike taking advantage of the superb dry conditions on the local trails or the calm dry evenings out on the nice road bike. Not that my fatbike is my mud bike, but it does get used a lot less when conditions are prime for riding other bikes.


 
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but last few months they've never even touched them

Neither have I
that's because we have actually had some decent weather for a change
Wont be long before its out again though


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:48 pm
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All mountain bikes are pointless. I mean we ride them round in big muddy circles going nowhere, when there's generally a decent bit of tarmac that actually goes somewhere. Nuts.

But they are fun aren't they?


 
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All mountain bikes are pointless. I mean we ride them through and across great countryside when there's generally a decent bit of tarmac that gets you there quicker. Nuts.

FTFY 😛


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:53 pm
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"I'm not a troll but.."


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:55 pm
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For some of us no such realisation was involved. Instead their shitness was immediately apparent on first apprehension.


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 2:55 pm
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Whitestone - I shall accept that correction.


 
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I haven't tried one and don't have any opinion on how they ride really, nice to have the option I guess.

As for their popularity though, when they were big news I saw a few, people used to stare at them as if they were some mythical creature brought to life, then it sort of died down to I don't know - if I had to put a figure on it - maybe 1 in 200 bikes I'd see at a Trail Centre would be a full fat bike and they've stayed at about that level - you see less bikes of course "out in the wilds" but I don't think I've ever seen one out of a trail centre.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think a lot of people bought them because, they have a collection so something a bit fringe is a nice addition but a few thought they were 'the future' and they really aren't, I think these newer 'Plus Bikes' are the bikes that the people who though fat bikes would be the future were really looking for.


 
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I had an opinion based on nothing but looks alone that they would be sh*t.

I rode one, and it was indeed, sh*t. Same applied to a plus bike.

I can appreciate we're all different, even if I don't understand it though 🙂


 
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It's a fad, it will pass*.

* for the mainstream, I'm sure they have a place for mega-niche circumstances.


 
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If only we didn't have to buy them, that would be great! If we had the power of independant thought we wouldn't have to keep buying things we don't want that we're currently forced to, imagine the possibilities???
We could even invent a thingy that could remotely turn over the tv channel, or even.. (get this, it's so mad it's genius) something like a button that'd turn it off!!!
that'd shut up all the Top Gear whingers once and for all...
But no, I'm sat here in a sea of fat bikes, gravel bikes gnarrpoons and clarkson videos.. in misery.. 🙁


 
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@p-jay PostieRich rides one and I've been out with a couple of other lads in the Peak and the Lakes who've got one but apart from a lad who occasionally gets on the train with an e-fat bike (I kid you not!) that's it.

I've got some plus wheels for my 29er - sometimes they are better, sometimes they aren't. Which set I use will likely depend on what ride I'm heading out to do.


 
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I don't have a fat bike so can't really comment, but I feel my contribution to the thread is about as worthy as the OP's!!


 
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There will be a number of people who try them and stick with them while others while thinking it is all they will use for the rest of their life sell it 4 months later

Very similar thing with single-speeds 15 years ago. I haven't used gears since as a single-speed was great for my needs in 2003 and is still great for my needs now.


 
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I feel they would be very useful opening up the miles of moorland choss that is not really rideable on a normal bike. I can think of one spectacularly remote valley somewhere near Plynlumon iirc that I guess would be quite rideable on one but was hike a bike on a normal bike.


 
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I like turtles


 
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I like turtles too. Cowabunga!


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 3:32 pm
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My Muk is in it's 4th year and still going strong, I've recently singlespeeded my Puffin and love it even moar! So no I don't think they're shit 😉


 
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But they are Turtelly pointless!

(IGMC)


 
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Of course turtles are pointless, if they weren't then it'd make the soup taste sharp.


 
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In fairness, the op has stated he has neither the experience or knowledge to make such a statement, which is a bit more honest than most on here.


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 3:50 pm
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Do you have to have everyone agree with you on everything all the time, or can some things be different?


 
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Mine is brilliantly shit. Or shittily brilliant. If it was really good, it'd be pointless, because I already have a really good bike.


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 3:52 pm
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I too have a really good bike but now prefer to ride a "shit" one .


 
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Couple of lads I know got some and raved about them and were never off them but last few months they've never even touched them

So they didn't ride them over the mild, wet winter and into the mild, wet spring? Those conditions where fat tyres act like boats?

Shite, obviously.


 
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Pointless unless your fit as and drink proper ale 🙂


 
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I reckon they are "utterly shite" as mountain bikes, if by mountain biking you mean any of the standard racing-inspired disciplines (XC racing, Downhill, Enduro). Of course they are shite in quite a comic way and that alone can be enough to make them fun (see, for example, Northwind's response above).

They can also open up a totally different sort of riding. One that has nothing to do with speed and is really all about exploration. It's about as different to regular mountain biking as touring and Audax are to road racing and sportives, but it still appeals to some folk.


 
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I have just bought one and waiting delivery.

Had a 29+, and rode a friends Surly Pugsley , good fun, made me relax on the ride and just enjoy it.

Comfy as well.

Usually ride at Afan , so if you ride there I will shatter the 1 in 200 at a trail centre.

Can't wait,


 
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rover pig nails it adventure bike go anywhere bike!


 
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pointlessly having fun on a shit bike
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fun is what it's all about


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 4:39 pm
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Agreed


 
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Sorry maybe "utter shite" is harsh 😳

I just feel that the bike companies are laughing at us with killing 26" and pushing every conceivable wheel size and plus sizes etc and axle standards and all sorts 😯

Maybe I'm getting sensible or just old and grumpy 🙄

You just need to see the classifieds at the constant slew of good gear getting moved on to make way for the next fad !!

Like I say maybe I'm just grumpy 😆


 
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I just feel that the bike companies are laughing at us with killing 26"

You know what diameter most fat bike wheels are though?


 
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Aye they've even got the cheek to get rid of excess 26" wheels by putting huge fat rubber on em 🙄

An extra piss take/kick in the beanbag 😥


 
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I loved this line from the Single Track +bike reviews a couple of months ago

It took
a few rides to dial in the pressures, but after
that, it was time to ride the rocks – and the
bermed trails of Lee Quarry and Gisburn
Forest where, even in the pouring rain, it
performed well – with the plus bike caveat
of any slick, muddy ‘natural’ trail meaning
instant panic as the bigger tyre, at whatever
pressure (I got down to 11PSI in the end)
skated uselessly over the top of the trail.

I’m going to wait until tyre choice improves and the weather dries
out. If we revisited this test in the summer, we might get a dierent
view, but for now, they all get a slightly puzzled shake of the head.

So fay I've managed to resist


 
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Not a fad to me.
Got my first one the original Salsa Mukluk 7 years ago and it's still going strong with the mate I sold it to.
My current fat bike is the 5" Travers Bat Fastard and it's my go to bike most of the time.
Just upgraded the tyres for the summer and gone tubless for the first time.
I'm finding it hard not to take this to Saturday's Sam Houghton Challenge


 
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Definitely not shit but if I was to get one again I'd save enough cash to get something pretty high end and light to offset the draggy feeling that spoiled mine a bit.


 
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I took my fatbike to a popular trail centre recently that involved a long climb to the top - I passed a group of riders at the bottom as I left the car park. Got all the way to the top, did the first section of the descent and climbed back to the top to be greeted by the same group of riders who had just arrived and then told me how my tires make my bike heavy and slow...let them go ahead on the descent to find them re-grouped at the bottom due to a puncture. Climbed back to the top for my third descent - they were still there fixing the tyre. My bike is totally $hit....


 
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I actually [i]'get'[/i] fat bikes, I don't think they're utterly useless, I just can't see the real need for one in the UK, if this was Alaska or North Africa, or you have a huge journey over mixed terrain with loads of kit to lug, then they make some sense...

But pottering round some woods in Surrey or Hampshire they're just comical IMO. It's a fad...

But then so are "Gravel" bikes, and I am quite into that fad at present, so people in glass houses and all that...

It's all fads, enjoy your choices, scoff at others, but don't take it too seriously...


 
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I don't know where you are all riding but I'm seeing more fatbikes than ever. of course folk who have more than one bike are maybe using something else at the moment - road, cross/gravel, XC, DH whatever but that doesn't mean they're not about to get dragged out again.


 
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But pottering round some woods in Surrey or Hampshire they're just comical IMO

I agree, mine certainly makes me laugh.


 
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I love my fat bike.

On the woodland trails I usually ride it's far better in intermediate and dry conditions than winter slop.

The grip is just incredible and you can lean it over to daft angles.

When it's wet and muddy it just skates over the mud and then hangs up on roots. It's quite disconcerting.


 
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Fatbike shit??.........**** OFF...

my fav bike


 
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Though the op does seem to be living under a bridge he does have a point.
I was one of the early adopters but don't bother with them any more. Not a problem or worth worrying about they just don't suit my riding at this point in time.
That could change again though. That's the great thing about bikes,if you get bored just ride something else.


 
Posted : 06/06/2016 7:06 pm
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i have to say, i dont like them. but i dont think they are shyte.
i would love a carbon spesh fat bike, but it wont happen. rode a friends On One, and it was terrible. squirmy bouncy hard to steer.
i know the tyres are supposed to be ridden at low pressure, but as a 20 stone rider, this is not suitable, so more air in the tyres means ( i have been told) a pointless exercise.

please feel free to correct me if i am talking shyte.


 
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Reckon the Ops frustrated, probably been left for dead by someone riding a fat bike.
Perhaps his bird dumped him & bounced off into the sunset having a backie off said fat bikerer.


 
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but as a 20 stone rider, this is not suitable

Of course it is. Your low pressure is just 30% higher than my low pressure. So about 8psi/12psi.


 
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Tried one in the Dubai desert, was fun. Don't want one though and they do look ridiculous overtime I see one. But hey, different strokes for different folks, so long as you're having a larf, go for it.


 
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I live in the frozen North of Scandinavia and they are kind of cool for riding in the snow but it's not that fast really, more of a bimblers bike, hence the love on here :).

Would rather go cross country skiing or snowboarding in those conditions but it's good to have variety I guess!


 
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Like I said I've tried/bought most of the fads biking has churned out over the years 😀

Prime sucker me 😳

And yes I enjoyed every bit of it too !! But maybe now older/wiser/grumpier I can only see greedy b******s in marketing rubbing hands in glee at the suckers buying every fad churned out 🙄

**** me I was first in the queue for most of it 😆

Yes I know it's business and it's how companies operate etc etc .. But I'm down to 4 bikes- 2 road bikes/cx bike/fixed wheel errand bike and every one of them make me smile like a loon after a ride 8)

Guess I've just been full circle and don't need all the added on Pish that adds naff all to the ultimate feeling of riding 8)


 
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You own a cx bike and consider a fatty an unsuitable off road bicycle?


 
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...if I had to put a figure on it - maybe 1 in 200 bikes I'd see at a Trail Centre would be a full fat bike and they've stayed at about that level - you see less bikes of course "out in the wilds" but I don't think I've ever seen one out of a trail centre...

Trail centre? Not really what fatbikes are made for, so I wouldn't expect to see many there. There's far better bikes for that purpose although a fattie would be fun.

Out in the wilds is where the fatbikes are at their best. I'm not surprised you haven't seen any though. I would regard the hills as a bit crowded if I ran across another rider when I'm out on my fatbike.

A fatbike is primarily a going places bike, not a sports bike, ideal for difficult routes through the mountains.

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I actually 'get' fat bikes, I don't think they're utterly useless, I just can't see the real need for one in the UK,

You must live in limited access England. 🙂


 
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Run what ya brung, saw 2 in Guisborough Woods last weekend & heard them before I saw them. (& I'm on an Orange 5!)


 
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Lovin the first ride I put in my 26+ Surly that I'm actually going to get rid of the mint £6k susser.

That must surely say sonething + about them.
Ok so 2.75"/3" tyres aren't full fat but it's certainly fun with traction.

Maybe you tried an asda special fatty that put you off...?
Who knows but give it another go, what you have to lose apart from grinning ear to ear.


 
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Pished on a few folks chips there Colin! 😆


 
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I had singlespeeds for years. I suddenly realised in the middle of the night at the Plymouth Bontrager 24/12, as I walked wearily up a hill trying not to cramp, that I didn't want to ride singlespeeds any more. So I don't.

They aren't and weren't shit, but I have moved on. I've not got a fat bike, but I can imagine after many happy years of riding one perhaps struggling to inflate a 5" tyre with a wheezy hand-pump while lost in a remote and midge-infested bog somewhere, and thinking "[i]you know what? The last 3 years have been fun and all, but I'm getting a fluorescent Santa Cruz Bronson and I'm going to ride Afan[/i]".

😀


 
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ive got a fat bike, and i love it:

does remind me of this:
a fat bike is like a fat girlfriend
its ok till your mates see you riding one
hehe


 
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It'd be a boring old world if we only used things that were optimal for the purpose.

I love my fatbike. Hitting a downhill track in the same way as I might on my 160mm [s]enduroist gnarpoon weapon[/s] bike, I soon discover the difference but it's fun, and that's enough. 🙂


 
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I actually 'get' fat bikes, I don't think they're utterly useless, I just can't see the real need for one in the UK, if this was Alaska or North Africa, or you have a huge journey over mixed terrain with loads of kit to lug, then they make some sense...

The bit you possibly don't get is the fun part. There doesn't have to be a need does there?

I have ridden what many would think of as inappropriate bikes for off road riding but they were fun and I enjoyed riding them. Still tempted now to go back to brakeless/fixed track bike off road as I am missing it and it was fun in a different way to fun on an MTB (it was also faster which is enjoyable too)


 
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I don't see many on my local trails the Peak District, West Yorkshire, can't imagine they are great on serious climbs
In fact I've never seen one..

I'd love one but having to climb on a average 500-800 metres a ride I can't warrant one


 
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The climbing aspect on a fat bike had put me off also.

My usual climbing for a ride is somewhere around 800 to 900 metres.

I am buying a Fat E Bike though, just to give enough assistance in my advancing years.

Its a Felt Lebowsk -e.


 
Posted : 07/06/2016 6:15 am
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I climb faster on my fat bike than on my full suss. I can tackle equally steep descents, albeit a little slower in rough descents. On bridleways churned up by horses they are superb. On stick mud they rise up over the top and glide serenely by.

On slick mud, especially over a hard surface, they are like bambi on ice.
On steps they are like a bouncy rigid bike - at least my Fatty is.

They're great when you meet citizens who know their rights / the law on cheeky trails.

They make me smile.

And the last point is the only one that matters.


 
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....but I can imagine after many happy years of riding one perhaps struggling to inflate a 5" tyre with a wheezy hand-pump while lost in a remote and midge-infested bog somewhere, and thinking "you know what? ...

...I'm going to buy a decent pump, a map, and some midge repellent?


 
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maybe we should all go and buy enduro rigs and try and strava our way around a trail centre. woopy f*cking doo.
been there done that. got bored. 6,7, or even 8" of suspension to ride afan or glyncorrwg. balls.
i'll stick with my fat bike thank you. beaten a hell of a lot of riders, up and down on it.


 
Posted : 07/06/2016 6:43 am
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I've realised they're not shit, if that's any help?

whatyadoin, Denis, climbing was one of the reasons why I wanted to try one second hand, so I could ship it on for not much loss if it held me up. It's not holding me up, I'm not selling it.

difficult to do less than 100ft /mile on my usual trails (the aforementioned surrey/hants woodlands), so 25 miles will get me to your 800-900m.

A lot of the fastest times I've posted on climbs round here have been on the fatbike. short and steep and long and draggy. The tyres aren't slow and they allow you to transfer more power to the ground. When it's really steep and you're on the limit of stalling, that little bump that will stop you on a normal tyre will just disappear under the low pressure tyre and you'll be on and up. There are some steep, scrabbly climbs which I've only managed to clean on the fatbike.

So if "rubbish at climbing" is your top reason for dismissing fatbikes, you should really reconsider!


 
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igm, well said!


 
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OP - nope, looks like they're all still in denial :p

Would love to have a go on one really but I think it'd get old quite quickly for me. Hate draggy feeling tyres as it is. That said I can see them being great for short hoons in the woods


 
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