[Closed] Have fat bikes run their course?

Worst of all worlds fat bikes

29 plus a good compromise .

Last two weekends I've been out on mine (see the weekend riding threads). Checking VeloViewer I'll have done seven rides on it since the beginning of October - I've been injured for most of the month so that equates to probably half my rides.

Here's mine above Wharfedale on a bit of cheeky footpath 🙂

Still definitely niche though! Don't know if the Dune is still for sale at Go Outdoors but that's about the only place you are likely to see one in a showroom (only ever seen one other shop with one for sale) and apart from CTBM there can't be that many shops that stock fat bike components/spares such as tyres.

Not for me its not.  NOt been riding much but whenever I do the fatbike is the one I choose 'cos it makes me giggle

Yep, I think OP has scooped it.  Maybe they were dying quietly and no one wanted to admit it?

Fatbike season is almost upon us...

I think that a sure sign that it's pretty much all over is the lack of an efatbike!

Or all the stupid questions have already been asked, hence fewer threads, so its reduced to the annual "are fat bikes dead" thread.

Still my most used bike by some margin, although the commuter is catching up.

I think that a sure sign that it’s pretty much all over is the lack of an efatbike!

Cube, Mondraker, Haibike.

Suntour make a hub motor for them, and most of the aftermarket kits are available with 100mm BB's.

Mine gets as much use as all my others, though I’ve been sidelined since June...

I hear that all the cool kids are going to be buying singlespeeds soon...

Gearbox is where it’s at now, flashy dahling. The look of singlespeed without the agony, but more to talk about when others ask what it is...

Singlespeed fat bike, with funny bars, I've got all the niches covered!

Doubt I'm cool though.

more to talk about when others ask what it is…

😂

Still going strong, still fun, still a fantastic all-rounder at any time of year.

They're past the point of people making a lot of noise about them but that doesn't mean anything when it comes to people riding them or buying them. I think manufacturers overshot- there was a spell about 2 years ago where there was space in the market and everyone was crapping out a fatbike, and by the time they all got to market that space was vanishing.

But the internet hate machine moved onto ebikes and the hype machine onto allegedly plus tyres that are actually just normal tyres, the mainstream fatbikes stole most of hte thunder from the expensive guys selling pretty ordinary bikes and parts for huge prices, and anyone who wants one, just buys one, like any other bike.

I'm still fat whenever the ride is more xc style. Love my Dune.

Don’t know if the Dune is still for sale at Go Outdoors but that’s about the only place you are likely to see one in a showroom

There was one in Leisure Lakes in Bury the other day IIRC

In my corner of West Yorkshire they are still growing for winter fun once we put the FS away.

Between us we have a Dune, Dude, ICT, 3 x Mukluks, Cooker and a Farley. Quite simply, anybody who tries one buys one...

A carbon Beargrease and a Mondraker too.

N+1 typesare all having Tommy Tanks over gravel bikes at the moment. That will pass at some point too.

Marketing bods will have to think of some niche too far again

still my main bike. My surly ICT, with bluto's is superb. got a vir fortis carbon fatty for training/racing. a couple of plus bikes. the only thing i've got, kinda normal is my camino ti gravel bike.

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Fatbike season is almost upon us…

There's a season for fatbikes? Does that mean I've broken a rule by riding mine year round?

Love my Fatty.

Don’t know if the Dune is still for sale at Go Outdoors but that’s about the only place you are likely to see one in a showroom

Or Bothy Bikes in Aviemore.

Or Nevis Cycles in Fort William.

As with all these things there have reached a plateau (see very good graph above).  A lot of people rush to try the new thing (single speed, fixed gear, fat bike).  Many find it was not really for them while others stick with it.  You then have a base of riders who just get on and ride their singlespeed, fixed gear, fat bike etc,. without the need to talk about it like it is something amazing.  Gravel bikes are still in the peak of inflated expectations.

Take up and interest has plateaued at a low level, so the slow death has already begun.

With hindsight my fatty’s best aspect was that it wasn’t a full sus.

It was a rigid bike with suspension.

I loved the directness of pedalling it. No bob ,no winding the bike up just pedal and go.

I have since bought a Scandal and it does everything I ask of my fatty but with less effort required.

Not ridden my fatty for months. It won’t get a look in this winter as narrow tyres are better in the mud.

All the nice bits have been taken off the fatty and put on other bikes. The Hope D.T wheels are getting sold and the On Ones going back on.

I would sell it but Mrs Zip reminds me that I loved it so much that if I get rid of it I will just buy another at some point.

So it’s gone to the bottom of the bike pile to become a once a year beach bike.

edit. I will just add that the orange 5 I bought was worse to ride than the fatty.  That has definitely been sold.

@scotroutes - ah, the frozen north 🙂

I suppose the amount of use depends on where and what you ride. For heading out across peat moorland on rarely used bridleways they are ideal, for blasting round trail centres less so - not that that stops people doing it of course. I got mine because I'd entered a fat bike race in Lapland and didn't have a fat bike, definitely putting the cart before the horse with that one! It's not my most used bike by any means but it gets me out and into places that other bikes would struggle with.

I found my fatbike great at glentress.  really was great fun.  what its not so good for is the longer xc rides I do - after 30 plus miles on it the effort of pushing those fat sticky tyres wore me out.

Nope, i live in Norfolk so "gnarly" mountain biking is a bit limited, but main two bikes are a gravel bike as it allows me to link all the local bridleways with road sections really well and come up with some inventive routes of 50-60 miles or my fat bike, we have miles of beautiful sandy beaches here and the seals on the coast, and fat bike is perfect for riding on the sand.

Often hold East Anglia rides and get 10-15 people turn up.

It has gone from being something new and weird, to just another style of bike. People used to stop you all the time and ask questions, but not so much anymore as they seem to be used to them.

Take up and interest has plateaued at a low level, so the slow death has already begun.

Think you may not be understanding what plateau means 🙂

I still have mine and no plans of it's imminent demise - haters gonna hate, just that they've focused their ire more on gravel bikes, or any other format that doesn't meet their notion of what a 'mountain bike' should be, particularly as IMO the fat bike is probably the most capable bike for all-day rides in natural terrain.

what its not so good for is the longer xc rides I do – after 30 plus miles on it the effort of pushing those fat sticky tyres wore me out.

particularly as IMO the fat bike is probably the most capable bike for all-day rides in natural terrain.

Can on fanbois, get your party line sorted!

Think you may not be understanding what plateau means

Fat bike owner then?  Thought you might be happy that it is becoming more niche.  Surely that's the main appeal for many owners?

It's a pretty simple term, but by all means enlighten me?  Quite happy to explain what I meant in simpler terms if you misunderstood it 🙂

Tell you what, you go ahead and tell me what you think I meant, and then I'll correct you.  Can't say fairer than that.

PS.  I don't have any particular 'like' or 'hate' for fat bikes, just calling it like I see it.

the hype and bandwagon may have been and gone - the quick money has been made by duping the curious and the gullible  - but doesnt mean they aint still good fun.

Fat bike owner and happy - winter is nearly here .... mines was out for a pre winter warm up spin last weekend - surprisngly due to the fact its a hub geared hardtail with ceramic/stainless bearings where possible it still runs like it did when i hung it up in the spring.

legend - I suspect the difference is in how many miles.  After 30+ miles I found it tiring - much more so than my hardtail.

fat bikes: yes - the hype is over.

But: nice niche. Where I live the fat bike is used in winter / snow conditions - but there are not too many bikers out in the winter.

I love to bike in winter time. For the manufacturers it's a very small market so.

In summer time other types of bikes are faster and more fun? Close to NO fat bikes in summer time around any more.

I think the reason I love mine is that it feels so different to my Rocket. We all spend 2/3rds of the year going flat out on very capable trail bikes, its nice to chill out on the fatty, it genuinely makes me smile, surely that's a win 🙂

As I say, my conversion rate is 100% for those that try mine and every one of them rides a big fast enduroweapon too.

Anyway, I'm off for an adventure on my gravel bike 😉

I think Kerley has it. Although I see more around now than in recent years, there's far fewer manufacturers still making them.

Plenty of activity on the UKFatbike Club Facebook page, and global fatbike day round the corner so we all get to meet up, do the 'bike compare posture' thing, ride a bit and drink beer together.

Round my way it's a idealr bike for the bogs and beaches so there's quite a few around. Probably less visible if all youve got is gravel tracks or rocky mountains. Horses for courses, innit?

27.5+ has more-or-less killed mine off

Rolls along almost as well and has 90% of the grip without the spacehopper ride. If the fat bike was 29x3" and had a fork it would be pretty close but at the moment it's in the shed with a patina of summer dust

I think the fatbike being the next big thing manufacturer rush has finished.

I still know people that love theirs though.

And, on the other hand, people who own them and smugly take them out in the tiniest dusting of snow, where a road bike could cope, feeling special until they're passed by a road bike or normal mountain bike. (edit - passed either way, not necessarily overtaken)

I'd like to have one but it wouldn't get enough use with my current riding diet.

I think the reason I love mine is that it feels so different to my Rocket.

Same here, except I don't have a Rocket.  I've got a few bikes from fads of yesteryear: gravel, fat, rigid ss, 26" straight steerer 2x9 hardtail, I like riding them all not because they do a job the best, but because they do it differently.  I ride one for a bit, think it's flippin' brilliant, and just ride that one for a bit, then get an itch to give another one a run out.

Occasionally there's a ride where "the best", is required, then it's the fatty:  snow, sand, rubbly rock, frozen chunder.  And, in a month or so, it's going to have a yepp mini kiddie seat on the front and I'll be talking the little one out for his first bike rides.

I met two guys riding them at an uplift day. Tyres pumped rock hard. THey LOVED them, but siad they were "terrible on roots"

I just had to walk away

I'm still riding mine and tbh after 5 years of riding fat I'm enjoying more and more each month that passes.

My bivvy a month this year has been on my fat bike

link to video's:

https://www.youtube.com/user/jefbricks/videos

And a few pics from this years jaunts:

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looks shit summittoppler Definantly the wrong bike for the job and dont let anyone tell you different* 😉

*Quality photos 😀

Depends on your viewpoint.

Fatbikes are no longer a big ‘thing’, but they certainly have not gone away and seem to have a greatly increased user base from where they started.  There are huge benefits to fatties if you can live with the overall package, traction and floatation being the two most obvious.

From a purely trailbike POV, plus has probably eaten their lunch.

Had my wednesday for nearly 3 years now and my other bikes haven’t been used since I got it, commute on it every day too.

It’s a pretty simple term, but by all means enlighten me?

Okay, sure.  A plateau means it has leveled out and is staying there so the slow death you refer to has actually finished rather than begun.

And to answer your other bitter comment, I have never owned a fat bike but do ride a niche bike (fixed gear).  I was happy that my niche choice became very popular as it made frame choice about 10 times bigger.  The only downside was people referring to my bike as a 'fixie'

It’s a pretty simple term, but by all means enlighten me?

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[edit] dammit 9 seconds, and  whole load of new and improved forum crap.

I spent a fortune trying to make my fatty as light as possible.

Then you get people who do this.

Bloody hell, where do you even sit on that thing?

Fat bikes have a few specific use cases, but they also look crrrazy.  The latter has worn off a bit, but the former hasn't and never will.

I'm not thinking of snow and sand - those are even more niche for most of us - but I'm thinking of the non-existent paths under ROWs across moorland, the stuff that's just too chossy to ride on a normal bike.  Fatbikes open up loads more locations you've always discounted here in Wales unless you love pushing.  That's why I still want one.

We will be all over them again when Cotic announce a Long, Low, Slack Fatbike.

My fatty did give me one of the best days I've ever had on a bike though.

Okay, sure.  A plateau means it has leveled out and is staying there so the slow death you refer to has actually finished rather than begun.

So you've misunderstood then.

Take up and interest has plateaued at a low level, so the slow death has already begun.

Take up and interest are two different things, but they have both plateaued.  It's the level of 'interest' that it has plateaued at, that is key.  It's low.  Low enough that mainstream support isn't going to happen.  The slow death (caused by this low interest) hasn't finished yet, its on-going.  Niche interest means that limited support and interest will continue, but it will diminish.  Do you think we have seen the last new fat bike design?  I don't, but there is going to be less and less development (i.e. a slow death!), in line with the plateaued interest.  Hope I've explained that in a way you can understand.  You are welcome.

I think you're clutching at straws to justify your original statement. If interest and sales have plateaued at a low level then that by definition isn't a slow death, it would be a plateau.

Given that Surly have released two new fat bikes and a new tyre this year, manitou released the Mastodon last year I'd say the niche is still very much alive, just not in the Specialized Concept Stores.

Im always impressed at the levels of passive aggressive crap on here.

Well it looks as though we are heading for page three on this thread in less than a day, so draw your own conclusions.

I was out on mine over the weekend as it happens. My usage is simiar to @Mugboo except I have a FlareMax rather than a Rocket as I'm not as gnarr 🙂 When the weather is fine I'll take the full suss and enjoy trying to ride the rockier more technical stuff a bit faster. But when the weather is not so good (especially if I'm wrapped up in multiple layers) then I still love bimbling along the tamer trails on the fatbike. It just makes the easier stuff more fun for me. I also prefer it as a fully rigid setup (more different to the full suss) so appreciate the lack of maintenance required in the winter. Finally it's great for exploring places where the trails may be almost (or completely) non-existant and it's lighter than the full suss, which is an advantage when I do have to carry it any distance.

Incidentally I tried a plus bike (for six months) and it wasn't for me. Most of the drag but none of the fun of a fatbike was my take. But we are all different and for some people plus is ideal. That's the point though. If you've tried fat and didn't like it then fair enough, but if you've not tried it then why not give it a go?

I'm not even going to try to speculate on whether enough other people like theirs enough to suistain what size of market though.

Remember that there are large ares of the world that get lots of regular snow each winter and where traditionally cyclists hung up their bikes for the winter.  I reckon fatbikes will have a guaranteed niche there.  Hopefully enough to keep the industry going.  XC skis and snowshoes continue to be manufactured, so perhaps it will 🙂

my only mtb (ecr) is a nearly fat bike, so in my eyes, no, they are still out on the course.

It was just a question, didn't mean to be a debate. But this is STW so I suppose I should've known better. Someone said to me the other day they really wanted to try a fat bike but didn't ride enough to justify getting one. Question was on the back of that comment. Some interesting points though.

The slow death (caused by this low interest) hasn’t finished yet, its on-going.  Niche interest means that limited support and interest will continue, but it will diminish.  Do you think we have seen the last new fat bike design?  I don’t, but there is going to be less and less development (i.e. a slow death!), in line with the plateaued interest.  Hope I’ve explained that in a way you can understand.  You are welcome.

I can't understand why someone could be so desperate to be correct about something so unimportant, just odd.

Did geex send you here in his absence? 🙂

Track bikes are pretty niche.  I don't know anyone who has one and I've never seen one on a shop floor.

Last I heard they are still readily available if you want one though.  Plateau, not death.

I don't understand why this is a question. Mountain biking itself is an inherently bonkers idea, so trying to point out some kind of sub niche is more silly/stupid etc is just pointless. I've never ridden one but I am glad they exist and that people love them. Long may it continue.

I think you’re clutching at straws to justify your original statement. If interest and sales have plateaued at a low level then that by definition isn’t a slow death, it would be a plateau.

Nope.  The plateau in interest has caused the slow death.  You still haven't got it, but I can't explain it in any simpler terms, so I won't bother repeating myself, but I'm prepared to avoid the semantics on plateau (which is depressingly STW), and concentrate on the original argument.

Given that Surly have released two new fat bikes and a new tyre this year, manitou released the Mastodon last year I’d say the niche is still very much alive, just not in the Specialized Concept Stores.

So still alive, but dwindling in mainstream terms.  I'd describe that as a slow death.  It's a niche that flirted with the mainstream, but didn't quite make it.  People will continue to enjoy fat bikes, but fewer and fewer new models will be produced.  In terms of the original post, yes, fat bikes have run their course (in terms of mainstream interest, at least).  Doesn't mean you can't continue to enjoy yours, so no need to be so sensitive about it.  Or does approval from others shape how much you enjoy your bike to that extent?

You've managed to contradict yourself, in your own post, again.

@gnusmas - if I hadn't been doing a fat bike race then it's more than likely I wouldn't have bought one and would use my hardtail in "plus mode" for the things I do use it for in this country. Having got one I don't see me selling it but equally I wouldn't want one as my only bike.

@molgrips and @roverpig - pretty much my main use case in this country, peaty untracked moorland with or without ROW 😉 There's a ROW track here in the Forest of Bowland but shortly afterwards there wasn't and it would have been a right pain on a "normal" MTB.

Occasionally we do get some of the white stuff and there's opportunities to play in that.

There'll be people who'll evangelise them, folk who have one and use it occasionally, folk who've tried them and decided it's not for them and folk who have no need for them. So what?

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You’ve managed to contradict yourself, in your own post, again.

I can only suggest you read the posts more carefully.  Thanks for your interest though.

Good Big-Hitting there guys.

Really do not care, Fat Stooge fully rigid with a truss fork here, just makes me smile , always impressed with how it rides. Slower than a full suss but more enjoyable- full stop.

Fat bike is my only mtb, I've also a 'gravel' road bike which also (in road terms) has fat tyres.

The Fat Bike was bought on a whim of n+1 but within 6 months completely replaced my full sus gnar bike as I was just having more fun on it. OK there are times I wished the tyres would fit in a uplift trailer, but other than that I'm happy with it. I cant see my self dropping below a 3' tyre in the future - it's seems the industry as a whole is getting fatter and wider year on year.

but I’m thinking of the non-existent paths under ROWs across moorland, the stuff that’s just too chossy to ride on a normal bike.

That is the draw for me and was looking at them a few months back.  I stick to the gravel roads and easy singletrack around where I live but there is loads of stuff I could ride on a fat bike (the undergrowth in the tress, the open moorlandy stuff linking up singletrack)

Damn, it has not got me thinking about them again, thing is I don't like gears so maybe missing the point in having a singlespeed as the gear would need to be pretty low to cater for the terrain I would look to ride on making it ridiculous to ride on faster stuff.

Guess my choices are also now more limited as they seem to be on some sort of death plateau that is spiraling out of control..

I had my fat for 'only' 3 years. Still ride it loads. Absolutely love it. It is an old fashioned Pugs but that is part of the appeal to me, something a bit different.

I do miss the old UK fat bike forum as an aside.

Love my Fatbike, a handfull have bought them local to me in the last few weeks alone 🙂

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Formby beach ride, 9AM, Lifeboat Rd carpark, who's in?

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Damn, it has not got me thinking about them again, thing is I don’t like gears so maybe missing the point in having a singlespeed as the gear would need to be pretty low to cater for the terrain I would look to ride on making it ridiculous to ride on faster stuff.

I've still got a Surly ICT (steel) frame in the shed that I haven't managed to sell yet. It comes with some track style dropouts that can be put on in place of the "normal" ones. But does anybody actually make a 190 (or is it 197?) width SS hub?

@Lawmanmx - as discussed in my thread on the BB forums we'll be there.

@Normal Man - there was talk of starting a new one. I'll have a dig around.

I don't think they ever took off I have one and use it in the winter as a mud plugger always makes walkers smile so they have some use never see them much anymore I have a Trek Farley the Staches are great bikes though.

Well I just took mine out for a half hour spin and I fell off due to you lot!  there is a steep slippy muddy rooty bank with zero run in I like to climb and can only get up it on the fatty.  Instead of concentrating on it I was thinking " I can use this as an example to show those STWers and I ruddy fell off.  so its all your fault I have muddy trousers!  rotten lot!