No argument from me
What’s there to argue about?
Daft rule (outdoor transmission virtually 0)
Im also no fan of the busybodies that grassed them up
But its the rules and they broke them, their fault
I agree with IHN
Aye, daft bastards.
Grist for the Argus’s mill. A thing happened and it’s been dealt with just fine… fire up the comments section and let’s party.
kimbers
Full MemberDaft rule (outdoor transmission virtually 0)
But its the rules and they broke them, their fault
Yep, nonsense rules (communal worship with any number of randoms is okay but riding your bike outside isn't) but bang to rights nonetheless.
That somebody bothered to report them as well is pretty sad. There were loads of fun sponges reporting people* for sledging on the local FB groups. Proper saddos.
*families not gangs of teenagers
Aye, daft bastards.
I have no idea where you are from nobeer, but I read this in Scotty from Star Trek's accent.
… fire up the comments section and let’s party.
This deserves more attention...chapeau
Agree that the rule is a bit silly, but it is the rule and they knew they were breaking it so no sympathy from me
The rule is 2 people and they broke it so not much argument there. When the rule was 6 people I don't think there was any significant outdoor transmission so it is a daft rule but I suspect we need to be stricter to get a reasonable base level. The focus is in the wrong place IMO, far bigger gaps in our "covid safe" lockdown elsewhere.
There's no argument, they broke the rules and got fined. Riding (from home) is allowed, riding in a group or travelling to ride is not, simples.
At least they were fined, more than can be said for my local constabulary who seem to not give a flying about the group of 10+ MX bikes that tear around a dis-used slag heap that is frequented by families and walkers at a million miles an hour on a weekly basis.
Believe it was folk on MX bikes, rather than MTB
Where is the argument? They broke the law.
riding in a group or travelling to ride is not, simples.
Yes really simple. Also wrong. There are circumstances where you can ride in a group and there are circumstances where you can travel to ride. Not so simples
I've told you once already.
No argument from me.
I was surprised at the size of a couple of groups of MTBers up on Woodbury Common yesterday.
One group comprised of 3 cars with 3 bikes/occupants per car. Mix of adult males and females - defo not one household!
Another was at least 8 or 9 guys at the jump spot near Yettington.
But it’s not about bikes, it’s just people. I see plenty of groups out walking together, and our local open space is filled at the weekend; the car parks are closed but that just means everyone’s parking on the roads around its periphery. The children’s playpark has been busy throughout lockdown, with kids mixing like normal. A lot of people are just being very complacent. Framing the discussion with parameters like bicycles is missing the point (unless the point is a malicious one of fuelling bias; eg as with the issue of taking photos that make distances between people seem smaller than they are).
Daft rule (outdoor transmission virtually 0)
I've been moaning the same thing for months, I live in Cardiff, if I ride from home it's through a sea of walkers, runners and other riders etc. It's not exactly downtown Tokyo but it's the densest populated part of Wales.
I can drive to Cwmcarn in 25 mins, I don't need to stop, sealed in my car there and back and even if it's busy I rarely see another rider on the trail and if I do, social distancing is very easy.
The problem of course is 'other people' there's no way Government can, or would pass a specific rule, or law that says MTBers can travel a bit, a long as they don't get out of their cars, or don't gather in groups, so I have to be governed by the same rules as everyone else.
We saw last summer that once we're allowed to travel of leisure, people can't help but gather, we see huge groups at the obvious tourists places, then some enterprising Ice Cream / Hot Dog seller will move in causing more crowds/queues, people start to meet friends and family for walks etc.
I'm sure in a few weeks/months, if numbers continue to drop, the Hospitals aren't so critically busy, the Vaccine starts to take effect on the population etc we'll be allowed some more freedoms.
But it’s not about bikes, it’s just people. I see plenty of groups out walking together, and our local open space is filled at the weekend; the car parks are closed but that just means everyone’s parking on the roads around its periphery. The children’s playpark has been busy throughout lockdown, with kids mixing like normal. A lot of people are just being very complacent. Framing the discussion with parameters like bicycles is missing the point (unless the point is a malicious one of fuelling bias
Well put.
But as for the case, don't break the rules you don't get fined
No argument from me.
I was surprised at the size of a couple of groups of MTBers up on Woodbury Common yesterday.
One group comprised of 3 cars with 3 bikes/occupants per car. Mix of adult males and females – defo not one household!
Another was at least 8 or 9 guys at the jump spot near Yettington.
With Cafeaside shut for felling other local spots were very busy yesterday, Teign and Cove both with lots of vehicles, no surprise to hear woodbury was rammed too!
I was hoping this was about Brexit.
I was wanting Hope Vs Shimano hubs.
It’s not exactly downtown Tokyo but it’s the densest populated part of Wales.
The most densely populated part of Wales seems to be Swansea beach between the observatory and the west pier. I grew up visiting this part of the beach, and its always been absolutely deserted....until Covid. And now you couldn't find the space to fly a kite there even if it was within the rules, which I'm not sure it is. I am genuinely astonished by how many people have taken to traipsing up and down this unremarkable, rather boring bit of beach. If I dug lugworm these days, I'd need to put up H&S markings around the holes to stop people falling in. (But, of course, there are several places to park a car right on the beach which may explain the attraction..)
. I am genuinely astonished by how many people have taken to traipsing up and down this unremarkable, rather boring bit of beach.
This is what happens when you take a densely populated area and tell people to not travel to less populated open spaces and the only thing they're allowed out for is exercise. The people who go to the shops or the pub - they go to the beach, the gym bunnies go to the beach, the people who never normally go out but now do because they've been told not to - they go to the beach.
What you then end up with is a ridiculously high density of people in a small outdoor space (increasing transmission risk because of proximity and volumes) and flipping great areas of unused outdoor space because it involves a 20 minute drive.
Have similar issues here, tiny amounts of green space and high population density and massively increased usage. No real safe and enjoyable space for kids / teens / families who need more than a 20 minute amble. It's worrying how congested and busy some of the pinch points/narrow bits get.
As for going for a big group ride well that's just daft in current climate.
Shortly after noon on Tuesday, February 9, a Sussex Police spokeswoman confirmed that the bikes had been off-road motorbikes.
That negates the exercise part entirely really so yeah, need to be fined.
Not even proper MX bikes, bloody pit bikes. Pity there weren't pictures of the eejits riding them, it's like watching a really low rent circus.
I thought it couldn’t be MTBers there! That spot would only be any good on MTBs if you wanted to make a smaller chalky version of Rampage. But motocross etc bikes have been riding there for ages!
