[Closed] Hans dampf evo vs minion 2s

I've done the Alps on both. If I'm really honest the only time I noticed a difference was riding on roads! HDs noticeably faster rolling with no loss of grip off-road anywhere. I prefer the HDs I think but they are definitely not as hard wearing as the Minions (ie mine were fairly shredded after 2 weeks in the Alps).

HDs sound good as I'll be using them on my trail bike on rough, root strewn natural trails but also use it to pop to shops!
Thinking about finally going tubeless, so I'll give it a blast with the Hans Dampfs.

Cheers

Trailstar front, pacestar rear. Best combo of grip vs wear.

As with everything there are haters and lovers and Hans Dampf tyres are no exception. There are a few threads about them on here.

Personally i love them. I have never found them particularly draggy but they grip like sh1t to a shovel. Not once have they ever let me down.

Trailstar on the front and pacestar on the rear.

Saying that i have a 2015 Nobby Nic going on the rear for trail duties soon. But as soon as the mountains clear the Hans Dampfs will be out to play again 🙂

Hans Dampfs are a good tyre for a riding root strewn natural trails on a trail bike. They do drag... but offer loads of grip in return. So depends where your priorities lie.

Are these dual ply minions? If they are and you've got a DH[u]R[/u] II on the back and you're not relying solely on gravity for propulsion... I'm not surprised you're finding them slow rolling.

High Roller-2?

I love them....and the original High Roller for my 26 inch HT!

I try other stuff and keep coming back to these.

HDs are great til they clog or wear but they're pretty terrible for that ime. Honestly, they were the first half decent 650b tyre so they got a lot of good word of mouth then, if they'd had any competition I think they'd have been recognised for the medicre kit they are.

Minion doesn't have to be slow, it depends on the compounds etc.

As Northwind says, theyre a good tyre but then they wear and go slippery. Plus all the edge knobs fall off before then.

The Maxxis Minion DHF 3c up front and DHR2 dual rear is a top combo.

Hans Dampfs are big, relatively light and predictable. They're not amazingly grippy (especially when clogged), and they do drag a bit on roads. But I like 'em - mainly because you get a lot of volume for your grams.

Run HDs all the year, they do clog in heavy mud but don't all tyres? Just got a magic mary for the front which will help in my early year races.

Ive ridden both and prefer the Minions by a long way. Ive never found them draggy and certainly not much more so than the HDs... although not the fastest rolling tyre I will grant you! The DHR2 is particularly good, even up front. I guess the only more noticeable drag between the two is the minions are a bt more lumpy on the DHR2 with the distinct and well spaced bar-style tread rather than lots of continuos knobs all over the place like the HDs, but thats what makes the DHR2 great in mud (for a trail tyre) whereas the HD isn't, so as with all things its a trade off.

Good tyre, but as said they clogg and loose grip in mud, prefer HR 2s if its a bit muddy

Superficial +1.

All tyres clog to some degree in heavy mud. Generally round our way we tend to avoid the worst of the claggy trails because when they're like that they're not much fun.

Trailstar doesn't last long on rocky ground. I switch it out from the front as soon as it gets dry and put a pace star one on.

Really like the DHR2 as a rear - not too draggy at all in 2.3, EXO and 60a form on my 29er.

Bit sad that I've already managed to put a hole in the sidewall riding over Hebden Bridge last weekend though.

On a trail bike, in my case 160/160 I've found HDs make a good enough rear tyre (though I prefer the Rock Razor) but IMO not great up front, they're predictable but just not aggressive enough without the overall grip of say a Magic Mary.

That being said I run them on my hard tail and weirdly they just work, I guess not needing the same overall level of grip and not pushing quite so hard.

Used to aware by Minion DHFs but haven't used them for a few years.

It's interesting to note that on our local trails, which are very rooty and can get very muddy (although they vary a lot because under the clay/forest soil is quick draining chalk and we're in the warmer/drier south east), that two of the most popular year round tyres are the Hans Dampf and Trail King (aka Rubber Queen).

I think that when it gets cloggy here it gets so bad, so fast, that every pedallable tyre which doesn't try to kill you on wet roots clogs up almost instantly, so what we have to prioritise is grip on the roots and grip on the very varied dirt. Also because we have very few rocks here we can run lower pressures which reduces clogging and improves grip. The popular winter choice is the Baron.

Tyres wear very slowly in the winter here, there just isn't the grip to abrade them! In the summer rear tyres start to get toasted from drifting in the dirt but fronts last a pretty long time.

This isn't for the XC mile-munching, this is for singletrack shredding and our mini-DH stuff. XR-Mud and Beaver seem to be winning on out on the Downs.