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looking to build up a new tourer that will take a bigger tyre than my LHT will, so I can keep doing a bit of offroad exploring.
the fargo looks idea, but the new gryphon looks sublime. are they the same bike in a different flavour?
does one offer anything better than the other?
The general feedback I've had is that the Fargo is built to be quite a bit stiffer than the Gryphon - essentially a bike designed to carry a load. The Gryphon is designed more as a purpose built mountain bike, which has the flexibility of being an adventure tourer as well. For a man of your stature and if you are going to be primarily using it for loaded touring you may well be best off with a Fargo.
There is a good and impartial [url= http://twentynineinches.com/2010/08/02/salsa-cycles-fargo-vs-singular-cycles-gryphon/ ]comparison of the two frames here[/url]. It's somewhat dated now, both bikes have changed a bit, though their essence is the same.
Sam, you are a gent.....I was going to mail you direct to ask this.
thanks for your honesty mate..... 8)