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Roadies should be quiet, right. I'd even put extra latex gloves in there to keep stuff apart, but no, for the first hour or so this morning, rattle,rattle,rattle. Stop, rearrange toolbag, carry on. Repeat. Until the ice cubes in my bottles melted. 😥


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 1:03 pm
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Buy a multitool that has a neoprene pouch such as an sks.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 1:57 pm
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Does the neoprene keep the ice cubes quiet?


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 2:00 pm
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It will if you stick the ice cubes in it 😉

Must say though  I find it odd that one can't tell the difference between metallic rattling and ice cubes knocking.


 
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a. Use a smaller saddlebag

b. Put more in your existing saddlebag

c. Use your pockets instead

I've done over 11,000 miles on the road bike with nothing more than a multitool, 2 tyre levers, 2 innertubes and a quicklink. Never wanted for anything else whilst riding.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 2:39 pm
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I got a Slica tool wrap as a present, no noise and big enough for I want to carry on a ride. granted not cheap but there are similar things about.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 2:43 pm
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Love the solutions there 😉 Would certainly have helped the OP 😉

Maybe these would help


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 2:50 pm
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Elastic bands can be wrapped around rattly stuff. And can lash rattly stuff together ..


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 2:55 pm
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Is it me or have most missed the point? 😉


 
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Is it me or have most missed the point? 😉

Must be the heat...


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 4:21 pm
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Need to freeze a mugful of water with the bottle on its side in the freezer. Cold drink and no rattling!


 
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I’ve done over 11,000 miles on the road bike with nothing more than a multitool, 2 tyre levers, 2 innertubes and a quicklink. Never wanted for anything else whilst riding.

You must have good lungs if you’re able to blow up a tube without a pump. (Or do you fart into the valve?) 😁


 
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I didn't bother listing the pump as it seemed a bit obvious - plus isn't something that would be in a saddlebag 😉

Though I guess I should have clarified that as I could have missed stating where I put gas canisters etc


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 4:52 pm
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I’m sorry for being pedantic - I just wanted to say ‘fart’. 😂


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 5:14 pm
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Bit of sponge can help.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 8:56 pm
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Just stop doing Road rides. Problem solved 👍


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 9:01 pm
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Just stop doing Road rides. Problem solved

Nah I got that rattle on the gravel bike and I didn't even have a tool bag on the bike!!


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 9:05 pm
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Silca Boa closure for the win.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 9:11 pm
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This is one of the best threads in a while!!


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 9:14 pm
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I put my bits and pieces in an old sock. No rattling noises at all.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 9:20 pm
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Spoiler alert - it wasn't his tools rattling. It was the ice cubes in his bidon.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 9:26 pm
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Spoilsport Alert Mister P!!


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 9:27 pm
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Lol at this !

(I had 3 goes at stopping a ting-ing rotor on my road ride this morning.  Should've got ice-tec)


 
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Lol at the OP, but if you have problems with rattling saddle bags, try one held on with a wraparound strap like this:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/castelli-undersaddle-mini-saddle-bag/rp-prod147290


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 10:19 pm
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Great use for charity wristbands - wrap around your inner tube and then hold together anything loose or rattly


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 11:04 pm
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D'Oh! I got there in the end. 🤦‍♂️


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 5:15 am
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Don't worry Mike, people still didn't get it.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 5:48 am
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It was the ice cubes in his bidon.

Ice cubes in his what now?


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 7:25 am
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We haven't left Europe yet, the ban on Anglicising French words hasn't started.


 
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Just googled it. Water bottle. Never heard it called a bidon before.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 7:36 am
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Oh, sorry, I just assumed you were one of the Blue Passport Enthusiasts who pops up on threads like these from time to time objecting to foreign words like bidon 🙂


 
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On my winter bike I carry some stuff in a tiny saddle bag, the best and neatest are made by Scott; they hang from a plastic W clip on the rails. It's stuffed so tight that nothing rattles and I have taped the seatpost where it attaches so that it doesn't fret and wear the lacquer.

On my summer bike I don't have a saddle bag because the bike is so carefully maintained that I don't reckon on needing anything other than a spare tube and a gas cylinder. I carry these in my jersey pockets, the tube sucked flat and taped tight with two tyre levers. If anything happens that requires tools I'll shoulder the bike and stick out a thumb; I'm confident that when drivers see I have a good reason to be hitching they will stop.


 
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Bidon = Pretension

Objecting to its use is nothing to do with xenophobia.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 10:53 am
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shall you be eating your lunch from a musette today bez ?


 
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Should be rattle free this week as it's cooling down a bit.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 11:02 am
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Bidon = Pretension. Objecting to its use is nothing to do with xenophobia.

I may have been projecting for amusement, even if only my own. I enjoy watching people get upset by perfectly legitimate use of words so you're only adding to it 😉

Also, it's great to see people still completely missing the point in the OP.

All in all, I think I'll be calling back here pretty regularly to top up my smug, self-satisfied enjoyment quota for the day 😉


 
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Great thread - proof, if any were needed, that almost nobody ever reads the OP!

PS: Almost 30% of English words are of French etymology

PPS: Stopped in the van a few weeks back as the temperature gauge was off the scale.  Had the bonnet open, fluoro jacket on, red triangle out , poking around at the engine which oddly didn't feel that hot.

I'd just filled up and was looking at the fuel gauge...


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 11:07 am
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shall you be eating your lunch from a musette today bez ?

Yes, it'll be a Long Stick of Bread with Mashed Offal Paste.


 
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Ok I'll bite...

I hate xenophobic, gammon faced nationalists. But i also hate pretentious types who deliberately use certain words to make themselves sound superior. There is a big difference between having a wide vocabulary and just being a bit of an arse.

FYI i hate the former more than the latter 🙂


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 11:19 am
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But i also hate pretentious types who deliberately use certain words to make themselves sound superior.

To a point I'm with you* 😉

"Bidon" is a little different, though. I have a water bottle next to me as I type, but it's not a bidon. A bidon is a very specific type of bottle; just as a gilet is a specific type of waistcoat, a derailleur is a specific type of gear changer, a rando or a brevet are specific types of bike ride, and so on.

* I only find two things regularly bother me here: firstly people who use "myself" when "me" is grammatically correct, and people who say "haitch" instead of "aitch"; because in both cases I perceive these people as mistakenly thinking they're being smarter by using the longer word or the word that starts with the letter it's describing. (If someone showed me evidence that "haitch" is at least as valid as "aitch" I'd reluctantly revise my opinion.) But beyond that: language is great, it's the purest democracy and an opportunity for everyone to get expressive and creative 🙂


 
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Peloton?

Or do we have to refer that to the bunch, to avoid appearing smug and superior.

Anyway, back to the point. Are you sure it was the tools rattling? I've had noises on the bike many times in the past that have made me disassemble large parts of the drivechain only to find it was something completely different.


 
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dont you let yourself be described as a HKLP 😉


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 11:46 am
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I hate it when people say "yourself" because they think it is the polite form of "you" (perhaps that is also a hangover from French ?) and even worse, use the plural "yourselfs".  Example "would yourselfs be dining in the restaurant tonight?"

(sorry trailrat not a dig - you are using it correctly obvs - posts crossing there)

But the darkest place in hell is reserved for anybody who pronounces "etc" as "ick-cetera".

I feel better now.

And I would type bidon as it is shorter and easier to type than water bottle, and would use either depending on the audience.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 11:54 am
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Anyway, back to the point. Are you sure it was the tools rattling? I’ve had noises on the bike many times in the past that have made me disassemble large parts of the drivechain only to find it was something completely different.

WE HAVE A WINNER

unless my irony meter is shot to bits


 
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Anyway, back to the point. Are you sure it was the tools rattling?

You know what, I think you might be onto something there. Maybe it wasn’t the tools rattling.

I remember a story about a guy who thought it was his saddle bag tools rattling, but it turned out after numerous stops to rearrange the tools, it was actually the ice in his bottle that was creating the noise!

Maybe..... nah, what are the chances 😂👍


 
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Rattly tools == too big a saddle bag!

I need to stand on my bag to get the zip closed and, literally, it's jammed full. Not a chance that it could rattle.

Used to use tool bidons (word used on purpose to annoy people), but found that they always rattled with anything more solid than a jacket in them. Also, I like to drink so nearly always have two bottles on the bike, so this relegated the tool bottle to the cupboard on most rides anyway.

I use the middle-sized one of these and it's really good:
https://www.pro-bikegear.com/global/en-gb/accessories/Saddle_Bags/PRO_BA_SADDLEBAGSTRAP

...particularly because it doesn't require anything permanent on the bike so it's easily moved between.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 12:10 pm
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Won't someone think of the ice ?


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 12:11 pm
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I chucked the word bidon in knowing to would get a reaction to see if anyone actually reads posts on threads.  I should have thrown some ice in too.


 
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This thread is brilliant 👍


 
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trouble is when it cools down  the zipper on your wind jacket might start talking to the tools and get into an ice cube techno funk "put your hands up" groove that may amuse when you finally realise what it is


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 12:43 pm
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Last time I had this it was the ice cubes in my water bidet rattling! Couldn't quite belive it.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 12:57 pm
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I'd have thought the solution is obvious: put your tools in your seat bag, fill it with water, pop it in the freezer the night before the ride, and voila*, no rattling.

* originally "hey presto" but I felt that wasn't going to annoy anyone


 
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@Bez better than schrader at least


 
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WE HAVE A WINNER

unless my irony meter is shot to bits

I'd have hoped people would have spotted it through my use of 'drivechain' which on a personal level boils my piss.

It was the ice all along. Who'd have known, why didn't he say in the first post!!

Myself part fills my bidon the night before and then lies it in the freezer sideways so it has a single non-rattly ice cube in it.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 1:06 pm
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ice cubes in my water bidet

Do you eat a lot of curry, then?


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 1:06 pm
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I’d have hoped people would have spotted it through my use of ‘drivechain’ which on a personal level boils my piss.

But on a personal level it doesn't boil mine, so your hopes were misplaced 😉


 
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I've been supporting England for the last 4 weeks. Tell me about misplaced hopes....


 
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it was actually the ice in his bottle that was creating the noise!

Err... I’ll think you’ll find it was la glace in his bidon making the noise 🙄

I wonder how long it took the crash investigators to figure out it was the iceberg that did the Titanic in?


 
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I wonder how long it took the crash investigators to figure out it was the iceberg that did the Titanic in?

If some of the comments on this thread are a guide then about the time it took for James Cameron to make a film about it.


 
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Well thanks, another film that I can't watch now.  You could have added a SPOILER ALERT.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 4:33 pm
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"Don't draw me like one of your French girls, it's pretentious."


 
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I’d have thought the solution is obvious: put your tools in your seat bag, fill it with water, pop it in the freezer the night before the ride, and voila*, no rattling.

I remember reading a thread (not on here) where someone had wanted to type "voila", but had actually spelt it "whalla". Amazing.


 
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Anyone ever had dry earwax rattle in their ears. Could have been that?


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 4:58 pm
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Pardon?


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 5:13 pm
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So, what is the Posterior European man satchel of choice?


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 8:08 pm
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Sac Vagin?


 
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https://metro.co.uk/2017/04/18/8-ways-smugglers-get-contraband-items-into-prisons-6579752/

Number 3? Ice Cubes before and after


 
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We haven’t left Europe yet,

And - even allowing for continental drift - we won't be doing so, anytime soon.

(Not even by the next ice age 😉 )


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 11:07 pm
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Excellent, we've moved on from the reactionary Vocabulary Luddites to the zealous Synonym Deniers. Bring it on 🙂


 
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But have you uploaded your rattle to soundcloud?

https://disquiet.com/2012/01/30/disquiet0001-ice/


 
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