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[Closed] Green Dots on 25k OS Maps - cycle permitted routes?

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What exactly do these symbols mean:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/idld.srf?X=327668&Y=226096&A=Y&Z=115&lm=1

In this case, my old Black Mountains Leisure Map doesnt show these dots, but the new ones, showing Access Land, do.

Are these non-bridleway , non-byeway cycle permitted routes? Arent they supposed to only be filled in for on-road routes?

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Posted : 22/03/2014 1:45 pm
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I think they just mean 'other' public routes (that aren't designated). Aren't cycle routes orange dots on 25K?


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 1:53 pm
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More often than not they are unclassified county roads and are legal to ride (and drive) on. You can check with your local County Rights of Way office to make sure.


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 2:11 pm
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OK, that clears that up - so cheeky to ride....


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 2:16 pm
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Not cheeky. Permissive. Ie you you have permission but not a right.


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 2:36 pm
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Erm, no, not cheeky, perfectly legal to ride on. They are public roads.


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 2:43 pm
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Almost all UCR's. The main stay of trail riding and general green laning.
Most are as legal to take a motor vehicle on as the main road outside your door.
There are exceptions. I know of one or two roads to tourist attractions that have these marks but are actually not RoW's. For a bike. They are green to go.


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 3:09 pm
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You wont find anything resembling a road where I've marked the route in my original link.


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 3:19 pm
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The term road is in this case a legal nicety that has nothing to do with Tarmac and White lines. It merely indicates a vehicular RoW. Often these are old roads that were never upgraded to Tarmac and can be very rough with no trace on the ground. RoW law has been tinkered with so much lately it would be worth checking with the local authority RoW dept to see if rights still exist.


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 4:33 pm
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They really only indicate a route with public access; it's generally accepted that they carry vehicular rights (some authorities dispute carte blanche vehicular access on UCR's), but its not guaranteed, some - if vehicular rights need investigating - might only have a right of access on foot, but it's fairly rare.

Some co-exist with a Right of Way, but the RoW carries a 'lesser' right, so (presumed) vehicular access 'wins'. Generally speaking UCR's are maintainable at the public expense, but they are at the very bottom rung of priorities. As they're not a RoW they are looked after by the authorities Highways Department, so unless your RoW Department are part of Highways (I'm not) they might not be able to help.

[/tldr]You're fine to ride on them, presuming they're open / navigable.


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 6:23 pm
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If you can its worth visiting the local council to get the definitive answer. Ive done this in the past and its proved very worthwhile.


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 8:40 pm
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As martinhurton's link to the OS key shows, it's basically "other" with the caveat of contact the local council. Monmouthshire's online mapping shows it as footpath and even if it isn't there is nothing but footpath at either end of it. Apparently!


 
Posted : 22/03/2014 9:09 pm

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