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Fed up with the Kenda Durex I've got on at the mo, the farmers are on hedge cutting duties round here.
What's decent & has a bit of central reinforcement?
I need a bit of a knobbly tread but not too knobbly.
Anyone?


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 5:11 pm
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My WTB Riddlers were thorned to death but I wasn't running tubeless. The CX Comps that replaced them have been reliable (not tubeless)


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 5:31 pm
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I find conti protection tyres very good. I pulled a dozen bits of glass out of my commuters tyres. No punctures


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 5:39 pm
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Teravail Rutland in the 'durable casing'. i run the 700x47 on my chamois hagar, they are a good compromise if you ride mainly off road. the 38's will be better for more mixed terrain although i havent tried them.

Schwalbe Ultrabite are proper tough and grippy but slow rolling compared to every other gravel tyre and onluy really good if you only ride singletrack.

edit: i should also mention that the Teravail rubber is extremely well damped if you are particularly concerned about off road performance


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 7:07 pm
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+1 for TJ's Conti recommendation. Something from the Contact range with a tread and size to suit. Been using them on my commuter for years, often I've worn them out and found no patches on the inner tubes I've taken out.


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 7:12 pm
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Anything tubeless?


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 7:22 pm
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i wouldnt suggest anything that wasnt...


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 7:23 pm
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Anything tubeless

Maybe I should go tubeless but that would mean new wheels, doubt if the cheapie un-named things that came with the bike are compatible!


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 8:12 pm
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schwalbe everytime.
https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m14b0s142p2999/SCHWALBE-Marathon-Mondial-Folding

simply the toughest tyre i have ever used Jim.


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 8:22 pm
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Isn't tubeless a bit hit and miss on 700c?

I can see how useful it is on 650b with the increased volume


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 8:26 pm
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ive not had any problems tubeless with the following

WTB Venture 700x50
WTB Raddler 700x44
Schwalbe Ultrabite 28x2.0
Teravail Rutland 700x47

so far the Ventures are the only ones that actually punctured. to be fair the Raddlers only stayed on for 1 ride as they were just too small.


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 9:10 pm
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Not riddlers...

Puncture every ride with them on.


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 10:26 pm
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Isn’t tubeless a bit hit and miss on 700c?

I can see how useful it is on 650b with the increased volume

On the contrary, narrower tyres is where tubeless has the real advantage, imo.

With bigger tyres, I drop tyre pressures a bit for tubeless, with narrower tyres I drop them a *lot* (because narrower tyres are otherwise much more prone to pinch flats).


 
Posted : 01/09/2021 10:41 pm
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Maxxis Ramblers seem to be decent. I’ve only just fitted a pair of the heavier Silk Shield ones (650b x 47) but they are proving to be very tough and can handle running at reasonably low pressures as well. They don’t roll too badly either. On the downside they do feel a bit wooden compared to the WTB Venture tan walls they replaced, which I think must be down to the Silk Shield band that runs right around the tyre, but I think the upsides of the extra durability and low pressures will win out. Time will tell though.


 
Posted : 02/09/2021 8:06 am
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Maybe I should go tubeless but that would mean new wheels, doubt if the cheapie un-named things that came with the bike are compatible!

You don't need new wheels. Try ghetto tubeless with split BMX inner tube. To be honest I had more problems with proper tubeless setups than with ghetto.

Certain combos of tyres/rims might not work, but I haven't meet one like that with ghetto till this date after ghettoing for last 15 or so years.

Cheers!
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Posted : 02/09/2021 8:31 am
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Durable Rutlands have to be the best I have ever used. Less than ideal for road rides but off road bloody amazing. Currently running some 44 Raddlers (tubeless) the puncture protection one and although I have had stuff like thorns and nails stick in them thankfully they have never gone down.


 
Posted : 02/09/2021 9:12 am
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Non tubeless? Panaracer Flataway strips in anything.


 
Posted : 02/09/2021 10:10 am
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Another alternative to ghetto tubeless would be to put some appropriate sealant in your existing (or new) inner tubes. I'm pretty sure the wheels / tyres on my fat bike won't play nicely as tubeless, so I went for some of this stuff.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/muc-off-inner-tube-sealant/p/711778461609600

'cos I'm running 26x4.8 I ended up putting 200ml of the stuff in each tyre. Gravel widths you should be able to get away with 80ml or so per end - so negligable weight gain.

Pro-tip - I syringed the stuff in rather than use the stupid plastic tube that's supplied.


 
Posted : 02/09/2021 10:25 am
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Thanks everyone, some good ideas there.


 
Posted : 02/09/2021 12:57 pm
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Tubeless. I like counting the thorns when I take off my worn out tyres (except last weekend when I crossed behind a tractor drilling seed and put a 1" gash in the the tyre from a flint he split...)


 
Posted : 02/09/2021 1:13 pm
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If you go tubeless on older wheels be a little be careful of the max pressure.  I've got a max of 45 on mine which is fine but you've just got to be aware of it if you are used to running higher


 
Posted : 02/09/2021 1:25 pm
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I’m pretty sure the wheels / tyres on my fat bike won’t play nicely as tubeless

Have you actually tried it @rockandrollmark ? My DT BR-710 and Surly Nate all holding ghetto very nicely. No issues down to 4-5psi...
Cheers!
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Posted : 02/09/2021 4:19 pm
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I've been trying to find some Teravail Rutland 700x47c in the durable casing, but can't find anywhere with stock. Does anyone know anywhere that's got some...?


 
Posted : 22/09/2021 3:26 pm

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