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Anyone else doing this?
Weather forecast looks on the warm side, with the possibility of a thunderstorm on the last lap 🙂
Really enjoyed it last year and looking forward to more of the same.
I binned my entry just wasn't feeling any enthusiasm for it.
It was good fun last year but so little riding it was going to be miserable from start to finish for me
I'm there. Not fit just now but hoping to enjoy it.
Orange steel HT (Shand) with SC32s and 27.5 bodged in unless I CBA to fit my racing wheels.
Not me this year, after 2 years of glorious weather i had a gut feeling rain was on the cards, and rain would turn that course from epic to misery for me.
Soloing it again... TBH 2 years ago I went into it as fit as I get, and last year I had a grand time on the fatbike so I'm not sure what this year's going to be- I still have a vague target of 8 laps (*) if the weather holds but that might not work out, not as fit as I should be.
(* this isn't a massively impressive number, not for a proper racer anyway, it just happens to be the most I've ever had in a trio or pair so I'd like to solo it too. Got 7 in 2015 and 6 on the fatbike so it's doable...)
I have just finished packing for my drive up in the morning. Solo effort on Saturday. Northwind has set a good target, 8 laps sounds good to me...or maybe 7. It's sunny, yep 7.
How many laps do the fastest folk do?
I'd guessed 12?
Solo for me me too. No idea how it'll go as I had a chunk of time off the bike over the winter. If it goes badly then more excuse to stop and eat the excellent cake.
cynic-al - MemberHow many laps do the fastest folk do?
I'd guessed 12?
Raddogair won with 11 last year (but looks like he had time for a 12th? I think maybe he knew he'd won it on 11)
I will be there , 2 years ago was 5 laps last year was 6 so hoping for 7 this year . riding the plus hardtail as opposed to my full suss this year so will see what effect that has .
I'm going too, not yet packed enough stuff to fill up whippersnappers car so I'm not ready. Going solo and aiming for as many laps as I can, 7 or more sounds good but I have no idea as I have not ridden it. If I can have a price of cake every lap that will help
Yeah, I'll be there. Look out for a yellow/black Trafic camper, come and say hi if you see me. Solo for me too, and I think 7 laps might just be doable....
Soloing as usual for me, 4th time in a row
5th in Cat last year with 9 laps, just over 7 hours
Will try me best for a podium this year but I think I might need 10 laps for that which is going some...
Weather looks good again thankfully, think it'll be a nightmare in the wet.
A thunder storm last lap ish won't bother me
Riding for KTM impsport
Pro tips for the first timers-
1, it's at glentress but it doesn't use that much of the trailcentre so don't be too surprised about that.
2, if you're on the first lap, try and get to the top reasonably quickly- the hardest part of the entire lap is the very first descent so when the main body of riders turns up, unfamiliar with it, not yet switched on and pecking after the climb, it can be pretty messy Worth burning a few jelly babies to beat the rush-hour traffic, once you're past that bottleneck the fun starts.
(this is an [i]excellent[/i] dick move from the organisers- I'm assuming they've not changed it for this year since it's fine GT7 tradition)
Ahh yes, the love tunnel, dark, damp and ribbed, always a challenge to keep things under control 😆
Guess my advice would be to run front tyre and fork a couple of psi less than normal. Nothing rocky, but plenty of small roots that can beat you up by lap5.
@moonsabaloon, the plus hardtail will be a really good choice assuming you've got fairly light fast tyres on it.
I'm soloing again. Not as well prepared as previous years due to a combination of things. Got the stamina, but no speed, so making it up to the start of love tunnel before the bottleneck is in full swing feels improbable. Will maybe just have my breakfast at the cake stop there while I'm waiting 🙂
So boost it up the climb on the first lap, cheers. I'm guessing the descent is technical but do-able in usual xc style?
Parking, IIRC you park in the "lower carpark" - the usual one on the RHS?
Al, the field beyond the carpark is usually given over to parking for the event, with a non-negotiable charge (£3, I think). There will be marshalls directing - you can't go wrong!
First descent is steep and a bit rooty with a few line choices and a LH turn at the bottom. It's not really hard, but once someone stops in the intial rush, its difficult for them to get going again or for others to get past them, people start to back up on the fire road and then everyone's waiting. Once everyone is a bit more strung out after first lap, then it's not an issue
So boost it up the climb on the first lap, cheers. I'm guessing the descent is technical but do-able in usual xc style?
Entirely doable, but the way some mince down it you would think otherwise!
And another +1000 to hammering yourself up the climb on the first lap, you'll lose masses of time if you get stuck in the traffic on the first descent.
I wouldn't say much of it is technical, although a few short sections are a combination of steep/narrow/slippy when wet/rooty which can feel a little sketchy on an XC bike with a skinny fast tyre up front.I'm guessing the descent is technical but do-able in usual xc style?
Nothing to worry about really though - only thing I cant consistently ride is the corner at the end of love tunnel, and my skills are pretty much full mincer level.
Parking has been in the field beyond the overflow (first left) car park last 2 yearsParking, IIRC you park in the "lower carpark" - the usual one on the RHS?
Parking's in the big field off to the left, you'll be waved in though.
Most of it is fun-but-mellow, not hard to ride but a bit harder to ride quick and without burning yourself up. TBH that first bit (it's just a short steepish thing but it has roots running across it and a 180 degree corner at the bottom) would cause less bother if it weren't right off the fire road, at the top of the big climb.
And then later on where it runs down parallel to falla brae there's a bombhole thing we built just to **** with people, again just off the fire road, and that's where the photographers hang out to get pictures of you landing on your face. It freaks some people out, especially now as it's getting pretty beaten up, but it's really a "ride straight down it" and it has a chicken line anyway. So it's mostly about trying to carry warp speed out of that section into the flat bit after
It freaks some people out, especially now as it's getting pretty beaten up, but it's really a "ride straight down it" and it has a chicken line anyway. So it's mostly about trying to carry warp speed out of that section into the flat bit after
The bombhole doesn't even freak me out, the deep loose stuff on the approach to it is harder imo.
Chicken line is actually ~1-2s faster than the main line which is a bit wrong, but I take the main line cos its fun anyway.
I'm soloing agin this year as well. Managed 6 laps last year so hoping to maybe manage 7 this time. I'll be on my green TransAM if anyone feels like shouting abuse / encouragement!!
We tested that out a fair bit, basically the main line is faster if you ride it fast, you can carry speed right off the road through the entire thing and out into the next section to boot
But I think for a lot of people you're right, it's a more complex route and most people seem to lose speed somewhere. And obviously you're only as fast as the person in front and it's all single file so it's easy to get delayed.
I was swithering but I'm definitely going now. Doing it in a pair. I'm hoping a smaller chainring and some fast rubber will make up for my utter lack of training and fitness.
For any first timers its a really nice course. Its not overly technical but fun. I don't think it wastes a single foot of descent on fireroad either. The Love Tunnel is a little bit buttock clenching first time as it is quite steep and the corner at the bottom is pretty tight but once you've tackled it once its pretty easy. Top tip: don't wear dark sunglasses you won't be able to see!
Am going to be marshalling at it again this year, please wave and say hello, would be good to put some faces to the names on here (think i am marshal 9a) Hope you all enjoy it
Thanks all. Looking forward to it 🙂
Woop, my air shaft arrived, I now can have working forks. This is convenient
Weather forecast is looking interesting.
Sure is 😯
Best of luck with that everyone!
I'm sure we'll be perfectly safe from the lightning under all these trees
The Tweed Valley Bike Patrol and Tweed Valley Mountain Rescue will be out hopefully having a quiet day, please say hi 🙂
Holy crap. Race prep should definitely include getting a new air shaft to replace your broken one on the morning before the race, then discovering that because your fork is some oddball specialized OE option the new part doesn't fit, so you have to batter your broken one and your new one together with a big hammer then throw it all back together and get it working at 11.06pm. Brakes are dragging like a mofo, don't care, sort that tomorrow. Woo racing!
Ha, Northwind - sounds like my usual prep! Too depressing to detail.... 🙁
Good luck everybody. By Scottish standards it's pure dead scorchio out there so stay safe. And if you see a man in a Ridelines top huffing and puffing a bit, give him a push, he's not getting any younger but he's a good lad.
Northwind - Member
Woop, my air shaft arrived, I now can have working forks. This is convenientPOSTED 19 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST
Piss poor preperation means...erm...something.
As I found out around 9am this morning when woke up and realised the race is today and not tomorrow
😳
Well, that went poorly- never a good sign if you're posting before the race ends... Basically forgot how to endurance- took off far too fast, feeling strong and quick, rode 3 laps then died at the start of the 4th. Ground my way round cramping and feeling like I was going to throw up, in the hope i'd get past it but didn't get any better so rather than toiling round 1 or maybe 2 more I just canned it. Wasn't the heat, just me being a diddy.
Hope everyone else had, or is having, a more succesful day! To be fair I had a great time for that first 2 and a half hours or so so I shouldn't grumble- more quality riding done today than in the first year when I was in a trio
PS, ffs Al.
@Northwind, thats just how it goes for a 7hr, too short to hold back. 3 laps feeling great and 4 of purgatory hanging in there!
How did the cobbled together XC bike go? Preferred it to the fat bike?
MC has facebook-shamed me 😆 Abuse of power!
I've soloed it 4 times before so I should know how to do it by now 😆 Last year I pushed a bit too hard on the 2nd or 3rd lap but managed to pull it back with a slow lap- every year I end it dead but this time I just went too far, no chance. At most I could have limped through but not got near my goals. Bit peeved...
Bike went great tbh, I've come to really like it and the last minute fork bodge actually worked. A little harsh and unsophisticated but that does make it feel fast and pretty fun. Might have got a bit wearing as the race went on. I think maybe my scandal was a little better, but then, I was much fitter that year so it got an easier job.
I loved doing it on the fatbike too though, very different of course- slower up, hilarious down (and way easier to overtake- line choice is a whole different thing with a 4.8 tyre, you can go places most people don't want to).
Next year is the heroic return to form! I may actually train
Hey Northwind, I too competed (dawdled) on a fat bike! TBH laps 4&5 (or is that 5&6?) were some of the slowest speeds i've ever ridden on a mtb. If you finished early, count yourself lucky. I experienced the extremely dangerous phenomenon of riding a pair of Jumbo Jim's on suddenly wet roots and the track turning into a river for the last 15 minutes of my last lap. The fattie does not like those conditions at all.
I got so much respect given for riding a fat bike though. I think this is great as it masks the fact i'm not certain how much quicker, if at all, I would be on something more "racy."
Great day out. will be back next year!
The heat certainly didn't help me. Took the first two laps to feel remotely good and then just slogged on for the next 5. I could maybe have squeezed in another but given the weather I am extremely glad I decided to stop for cake instead.
last year I did the same as northwind. This year thanks to lack of previous years fitness and carrying extra weight I took it steady, paced myself and managed one more lap than last year. got in just before the storm which was a relief.
Great course. Managed the target of 7 laps although the last was a big road descent, rather damp it was. Quite nice after the stifling heat. A grand day out.
😀Weather forecast looks on the warm side, with the possibility of a thunderstorm on the last lap
I knew I was going to find it tougher than last year, as less fit, but the heat was where this really showed up. Got 7 solo laps in last year, only managed 6 this year. Every time I was in the sun, I wilted, then felt so much better in the cooler areas, except on lap 5 when I seriously considered chucking it in. Reconciled myself at that point to just go for 6, and then just relaxed and enjoyed riding and chatting. Made it back before the close out for final lap, but knew I'd never make it so called it a day.
Next year I will be fitter!
Managed 9 laps on a Singlespeed my last lap down into the Tunnel of Love was interesting after somebody turned the lights off
I'm delighted with my 9 laps knowing it would be touch and go to make the 6.5hr cut off but gained some time on the first 2laps and made it by 3mins. The last lap I made it to the top in 35mins as the heavens opened and rode a sketchy tunnel of love then was redirected down the fire road before zoom or bust. Correct and quick decision by the organisers, it would have been carnage on the trails and they didn't have unlimited supplies of first aiders to deal with the inevitable. Interesting finish to a race anyway! Does anyone know where the results are? Can't find them on sport ident site.
It was the right call it was a proper rain storm up at the top
Very well done to guys above on 9 laps, that's properly quick!
Like above, managed 9 laps in 7:10
No chance of the 10 laps I came for, didn't stop so just not quick enough.
Rode the last lap down the dark tunnel of love, which was interesting with sunglasses on and then redirected for the last decent too.
Great day
Well done to all that took part yesterday. Really friendly crowd all round. I recognise the description of the bikes but cant remember the riders on them (is that bad?) I was the marshall at the top of the hellish climb on the fire road above sair fecht, hope i said hello to you all
Ah Aide, I was the guy on the fat bike you kept encouraging on! Thanks for that. Really helpful when your legs are failing!
I did the whole of the last section in the rain. I have not been so scared for my life since getting caught in a thunderstorm at 200M in the Austria alp, which was marginally more scary. The slalom at the end was mental slidy!!
@aide, I tried to negotiate a discount on pushes from you but I never got to collect.
Perversely sorry to miss all that! Well done to everyone who made it through
Thanks to Aide and all the other marshalls/organisers 🙂
I did 4 laps as part of a pair (8 in total) and cleared Heartbreak hill 3 times out of the 4, (had to push the last 20m) as I cheerfully predicted to the marshall on lap 3!
My lap times were much more consistent that when I did it in 2015 (was ill and missed last year) and I was between 10 and 15 mins quicker per lap, happy with that 🙂 Last time I checked we were 16th out of 50 in our category.
Great atmosphere, good weather (I did my last lap before the monsoon!) and really good fun 🙂
Does anyone have links to the timing and any picture websites?
[quote=Northwind]MC has facebook-shamed me
You need more than facebook shamed!
3 and a bit laps, plus you sneaked away...
:D[url= http://timing.tweedvalleymtb.com/TweedLove2017/GT7_AllLaps.pdf ]:D[/url]:D
In the end I only managed 4- managed to slide out somehow on lap 1 and inconveniently head-butted a tree root, which led to a bit of a headache. And a sore ass where the saddle turned through 90 degrees and rogered me :/
I was holding it together on lap 4 and thinking about a 5th when I cleared the way for a faster rider, which ended up in further head/helmet/tree interfacing, and an even bigger sore head. So, I bowed out at the lap's end.
Will be back next year for more, this time in XC lycra-clad HT mode. Was a great day!
Glad to know that ive 'met' some of you on here, hopefully see you next year
I had a great day, got a solo waiting list entry 10 days before the event so went in with minimal expectations as other than a short commute to keep the base fitness up I haven't? ridden much at all this year. Just scraped 7 laps if the final "get off the hill in the monsoon" lap counts. I also went into the tunnel of love into the total darkness, was a bit full on!
mc - Member3 and a bit laps, plus you sneaked away...
I did not sneak away, I ran away, big difference!
Results are in: [url= http://timing.tweedvalleymtb.com/TweedLove2017/GT7_AllLaps.pdf ]http://timing.tweedvalleymtb.com/TweedLove2017/GT7_AllLaps.pdf[/url]
By the way, respect to Metcheck for the uncannily accurate weather forecast!
Are these results still showing a lap less though the final times are including the final lap they've taken from the lap count??
For some reason they don't count the first short lap in the lap count.
was a great day out and rode very similar to last years conditions. Well done to everyone there who made it the event it is, will be back next year!
Any links to photo's floating about?
cheers
Few photos on Roots and Rain...
https://www.rootsandrain.com/race5883/2017-may-27-tweedlove-glentress-7-glentress/photos/
The final lap count only includes full laps that were completed before the agreed 16:30 cut-off. The first short lap was treated separately as it makes managing times a lot easier on the day, however the software used does not support including it in the final lap count.
As mentioned in the note at the top of the results, anything in red does not count towards the final results. The times in red were left in purely so riders can see the full set of data, and argue/analyse/debate the times in whatever way they see fit.
Can I get time taken off for risking my life for no good reason on my last lap?