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I have only been biking for a couple of months and have seriously got the bug. I am lucky enough to stay close to terrific Glentress. It is disheartening however to get to the top of Spooky Wood with great views of the Tweed Valley, and be surrounded by other peoples sandwich wrappers, plastic bottles and inner tubes.
To the lazy idiots out there, if you could be arsed taking this stuff up the hill do us all a favour and take it back down again!!
I wholeheartedly completely and utterly agree. 👿
Bastards!
Totally agree, I was up there yesterday and saw the sandwich boxes and thought FFS if someone can take it up when it has a sarnie in it how can they not take it down when its empty?
MUPPETS
outta curiosity, did you folks pick up the stuff you found?
fwiw, i'm with ya on the charges of 'numpty' being laid upon the perps....
Sadly, it's not unique to Glentress either.
Always amazes me how anyone can throw rubbish into the countryside when it doesn't decay naturally. I'll throw apple cores, or banana skins into the hedges of course, because a week later they've mulched into the earth and are providing valuable nutrients to the surrounding plant life etc. But sandwich wrappers, drinks bottles etc?
Maybe it's just cos I was brought up in the country, to respect the countryside, I don't know. But amazes me that people who enjoy the same hobby as me can treat the countryside they ride on in the way they do...
No idea if it's actually true or not, but used to throw banana skins in hedges too thinking they would decay away. Until I was told that they don't decay that well in the UK as we don't have the bacteria to break them down, now I take them home and bin them.
Banana skins degradation depends on where they are. On Scottish and Lakeland mountain sides it can take 1-3 years as do Orange skins at that altitude.
Posting on here is almost pointless though.
What might actually make a difference is to bag some of it and hoick it out or to sit up there and hector those who actually do the littering.
Best of luck with that like 😎
At the bench at Glentress before Spooky Woody climb I found a pair of padded lycra innershorts abandoned on the table. Bit odd
Yep, its bad. As is the other hardy perennial of ripping up the road in cars leaving a plume of dust. Its 15mph or less...
Mad...they go to a place because its unspoilt and then they spoil it
Same issue on the east coast around Gullane and Yellowcraigs - 99% of the year its great biking and running country, but after a couple of days of good weather it resembles a landfill (note we only get about 3 days of sun a year...)
rickmeister - Member
Yep, its bad. As is the other hardy perennial of ripping up the road in cars leaving a plume of dust. Its 15mph or less...
The simple solution is to close the upper car park. There's a perfectly good climb up to Buzzard's Nest, it's only the parents of the freeride kids that tend to drive all the way up.
Banana skins degradation depends on where they are. On Scottish and Lakeland mountain sides it can take 1-3 years as do Orange skins at that altitude
Wondered how long it would take. Just a bit disappointed it wasn't TJ.
I don't think you are in a position to complain unless you do more than post up on internet fora about it.
At the bench at Glentress before Spooky Woody climb I found a pair of padded lycra innershorts abandoned on the table. Bit odd
I reckon they must have had something suspect in them...
cynic-al - MemberI don't think you are in a position to complain unless you do more than post up on internet fora about it.
Ok i will bite, like what then dumbass?
cynic-al - MemberI don't think you are in a position to complain unless you do more than post up on internet fora about it
Not sure I follow your logic. Is it better to sit silent and accept the failings? Surely this only leads to a further decline. Sooner or later they'll be taking your lunch money off you...
However, accepting your opinion, I am in a position to complain.
Mad...they go to a place because its unspoilt and then they spoil it
YEP
anyway, I can feel an arguement coming out of a perfectly reasonable OP, but ****, when did that ever stop anyone.
no - i think it's good they drop litter
Banana skins degradation depends on where they are. On Scottish and Lakeland mountain sides it can take 1-3 years as do Orange skins at that altitude.
They degrade faster than that in my kitchen, so I reckon that's BS, and even if its not, as unsightly as they maybe, still better than landfill in the long term.
neninjaBanana skins degradation depends on where they are. On Scottish and Lakeland mountain sides it can take 1-3 years as do Orange skins at that altitude.
^^ what he said, read an article recently about banana skins littering the scottish highlands because people think they'll degrade but it takes years.
I don't think you are in a position to complain unless you do more than post up on internet fora about it.
I was not going to lift it (bacteria and suchlike and then put it in my camelback) If I saw the numbnut he would have been told he was a numbnut so what should I have done?
from the bbc:
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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10178635 ]2010[/url]
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-14029552 ]2011[/url]
Banana skins degrade quicker than plastic bottles
Fact
Its just kids, places like Spooky Woods or my old local DH/freeridey stuff attracts kids, and they haven't learned to respect the place, cue piles of litter.
Mad...they go to a place because its unspoilt and then they spoil it
I don't think people go to Glentress because its unspoilt, they go because somebody's driven a digger through it and left a load of jumps behind.
Heh you is trolled INNIT!
Seriously though I appreciate the OP's point but I doubt the litter-dropping scum are on here, try south-east DH forums.
I don't think people go to Glentress because its unspoilt, they go because somebody's driven a digger through it and left a load of jumps behind.
Tis a fair point 'monk. I was "speaking" generally but I take your point... 😀
This happens in nearly every wood I've been to.
Some people are idiots.
I feel a bit guilty to have started a row about Banana skins now! 😳
I was "speaking" generally
Yeah, I know plenty of properly unspoilt spots that have been ruined by poo-baggers, but thats an entirely different argument thats been done to death elsewhere..
*blood already beginning to boil at thought of poo-bags hanging in the breeze.... 👿 *
poo-bags hanging in the breeze
Never quite understood that. Don't want someone to stand in this so I'll bag it up and hang it in a tree...
How long does it take a poo to bio degrade? Someone will have the stats at hand...
Was there today.
And the tennents cans at the top of Spookey and sweet wrappers make me sick.
Not hard to carry it in your rad camelbak.
Was there last night, sandwich cartons and innertube littering the top, looks a total effing mess...
cynic-al - try south-east DH forums.
Not to want to create / play into stereotypes, but the tube was a muckle great DH tube that was heavier than an XC tyre!
AlasdairMc - MemberThe simple solution is to close the upper car park. There's a perfectly good climb up to Buzzard's Nest, it's only the parents of the freeride kids that tend to drive all the way up.
Uh, and loads of families using the green.
At the bench at Glentress before Spooky Woody climb I found a pair of padded lycra innershorts abandoned on the table. Bit odd
Hoogerland again I expect
Fair point Northwind, I'd forgotten about the green.