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How ****ing fast is Ganna? 58.8km/hr average 😳😳😳😳😳😳


 
Posted : 03/10/2020 2:19 pm
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No ducks, is disappoint 😔


 
Posted : 03/10/2020 3:26 pm
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Superman out already


 
Posted : 03/10/2020 4:26 pm
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Shame about Lopez. Already sizeable gaps on GC ....


 
Posted : 03/10/2020 4:46 pm
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And yes, Ganna is a speed monster! if he had a real concerted push at the hour record on the track it could be a big jump on campenaerts time.


 
Posted : 03/10/2020 5:08 pm
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Van der poel ride in Binkbank tour 😳😳😳😳😳 Rode away from the peleton with 50km to go and then held them off on final climb...


 
Posted : 03/10/2020 6:46 pm
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Skipped the Giro to watch Leige, oh dear Allaphillipe what did you do!!

Van der Poel was right in the mix in a hilly classic the day after a 50km solo break to win Binkbank!!


 
Posted : 04/10/2020 4:06 pm
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Where are the Giro daily highlights being shown? I'd assumed it would be ITV4 but cant see it!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 8:42 am
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They are on Quest at 7pm. We have it but I am not sure who has it or if it is Sky only or a freeview channel!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 9:10 am
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non-spoiler thread with fantasu league here - https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/stw-giro-ditalia-2020-thread-incl-fantasy-league

Quest is Freeview channel 12, or 114 in HD


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 9:41 am
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G has had an off.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 12:34 pm
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That's got that out of the way then.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 12:35 pm
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Where are the Giro daily highlights being shown? I’d assumed it would be ITV4 but cant see it!

s4c but Welsh commentary only with no subtitles that I can find. Use their app for half hour catch up highlights.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 12:39 pm
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not a mask in sight on the side of the road!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 12:42 pm
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Simon is breaking the Wiggins don't unzip your jersey rule already!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 12:44 pm
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G didn't look happy bit of a grimace!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 1:04 pm
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g off the back with 27k to go


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:34 pm
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Looks like G is out


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:34 pm
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Oh... that's... well... disappointing !!!!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:35 pm
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back in the peleton but not looking good


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:44 pm
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That’s got that out of the way then.

looking at his clothing it does look like he's been down again!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:48 pm
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back in the peleton but not looking good

No there's the breakaway, 3 mins back to the peloton and then another 30" back to GT. Gap getting bigger all the time.

And now they've just sacrificed Ganna's pink jersey to look after him.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:50 pm
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Nibbles & trek are going to stick it to G here


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:51 pm
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Along with Rohan Dennis too who's helping. Thomas pulling not happy faces in his little group. I can see him bailing after today, not sure what he's hurt, but it's not looking happy.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:54 pm
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G 1.05 back now, it's going to be 10 mins+ @ the top at this rate, and now Bora up the pace!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:55 pm
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here have a coke 😀


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 2:59 pm
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And now Yates goes pop...

Nibali for the title ?


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 3:10 pm
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Simon Yates in trouble as well.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 3:10 pm
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Yates popped ?


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 3:10 pm
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rumours of a broken rib.

(for Thomas that is, not Yates)


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 3:49 pm
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G has lost 11 mins. Reckon he's out now, he looked wrecked.

Rapha and EF Education First have played a blinder with their marketing and special one-off kit!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 3:49 pm
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My prediction on the other thread of a conservative stage with a wee dash to the line was a bit wrong.

Real shame about Thomas and Yates. They're both capable of really exciting racing so it sucks if they're out of contention.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 4:01 pm
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General Classification after Stage 3
1 ALMEIDA, João (DQT) 7:44:25
2 CAICEDO, Jonathan (EF1)
3 BILBAO, Pello (TBM) + 37
4 KELDERMAN, Wilco (SUN) + 42
5 VANHOUCKE, Harm (LTS) + 53
6 NIBALI, Vincenzo (TFS) + 55
7 POZZOVIVO, Domenico (NTT) + 59
8 MCNULTY, Brandon (UAD) + 1:11
9 FUGLSANG, Jakob (AST) + 1:13
10 KRUIJSWIJK, Steven (TJV) + 1:15
11 MAJKA, Rafal (BOH) + 1:26
12 KONRAD, Patrick (BOH)
13 HINDLEY, Jai (SUN) + 1:27
14 MASNADA, Fausto (DQT) + 1:32
15 ZAKARIN, Ilnur (CCC) + 1:38
16 KNOX, James (DQT) + 1:40
17 PERNSTEINER, Hermann (TBM) + 1:42
18 PEDRERO, Antonio (MOV) + 1:50
19 MEINTJES, Louis (NTT) + 1:59
20 SAMITIER SAMITIER, Sergio (MOV) + 2:06
21 BRAMBILLA, Gianluca (TFS) + 2:07
22 HAMILTON, Lucas (MTS) + 2:41
23 VISCONTI, Giovanni (THR) + 3:10
24 GEOGHEGAN HART, Tao (INS) + 3:12
25 YATES, Simon Philip (MTS) + 3:46
26 GALLOPIN, Tony (ALM) + 4:01
27 PARET PEINTRE, Aurélien (ALM) + 4:11
28 CARBONI, Giovanni (BCF) + 4:25
29 HARPER, Chris (TJV) + 4:37
30 HAIG, Jack (MTS) + 4:39


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 4:05 pm
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G has had an off.

That’s got that out of the way then.

Oh dear that didn't age well.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 4:43 pm
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G hit a bottle by the looks of it.
https://twitter.com/salxber/status/1313114965620994051


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 4:48 pm
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man has no luck


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 4:55 pm
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Click through onto that Twitter thread and there is a vid from another angle, there's 3 bottles rolling around.  WTF are bottles doing rolling around in the middle of the road in the middle of the peloton on a fast downhill section?!  Absolutely nothing G could've done there and looked a hefty fall.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 4:57 pm
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That’s a horrible fall. Went down like a bag of wet sand.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 5:04 pm
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What tit chucks his bottle there? Or is this some litter from the promotional caravan?


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 5:05 pm
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There is a rough section of cobbles(?) just where the bottles are appearing on the road.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 5:10 pm
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The other video shows bidons. First black and white (or silver) then the red coloured ones. Close up of one after the crash looks like Bahrain McLaren colours. So appear to have jumped out of the cages and rolled down the hill.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 5:25 pm
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By Eck, how bloody unlucky.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 5:27 pm
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Consensus is the bottles bounced out, bump in road just before the zebra crossing. You can see it as the motorbikes and cars cross it. Momentum would have thrown the bottles forward.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 5:36 pm
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Where are the Giro daily highlights being shown? I’d assumed it would be ITV4 but cant see it!

@oikeith, it's on Quest/Quest HD at 19:00.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 7:14 pm
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You would have thought they could design bottles and cages that kept the 2 items together when on the bike


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 7:43 pm
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You would have thought they could design bottles and cages that kept the 2 items together when on the bike

They go for stupid lightweight shite that weighs 5g less than conventional cages and saves 1/10th of a second when getting the bottle out.

Result - they bounce out all the bloody time but the riders don't care cos they just whistle up the car and the mobile fridge arrives next to them.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 7:49 pm
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I’m sure your right but you would thought a rideR safety requirement would be imposed on teams


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 8:06 pm
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I’m sure your right but you would thought a rideR safety requirement would be imposed on teams

You know all the articles around Paris-Roubaix listing specialist kit, cobble-specific modifications etc?

In all of those, there are pics of bottle cages with bits of grip tape or sandpaper or occasionally bits of bar tape wrapped around them to hold the bottles in tighter. It's all bollocks - any standard cage and bottle works fine. I've never lost a bottle in anything other than a crash including in races like the Three Peaks CX and numerous cobbled city centre circuit races, cobbled sportives etc.

But they insist on using these special light-touch bottle cages that then need extra measures to hold bottles in securely on rough terrain or, on normal roads, will just bounce out on potholes. As usual it's the same "marginal gains" shite that leads teams to using ultralight tyres which save 0.4W or 18g over standard tyres but which puncture far more readily and then require hours of chasing back on. Just utter stupidity and brazen adherence to "marginal gains" and tradition that keep riders using this crap.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 8:25 pm
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Just utter stupidity and brazen adherence to “marginal gains” and tradition that keep riders using this crap.

Not disagreeing about the silly bottle cages etc. but do wonder if they've done a sort of cost/benefit analysis of the tyre thing, e.g. chances of puncture weighed up against likelihood of a quick repair and tow back into the peloton? How much sillier and lighter are the pro tyres versus a standard production tyre?

I'm still convinced electronic gears are a false economy, who was it on Liege Bastogne Liege drifting to the back frustratedly kicking a rear mech that was in 'crash' mode? 😀


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 10:13 am
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didn't MS do over half of last years TDF without a puncture ? think it worked out @ about 16,000 miles between the 8 riders.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 10:20 am
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Can anybody remember the old water bottles that had a push-on lid? Apparently the pro peloton preferred those because if you rode over one the lid would pop off and the bottle deformed. With the more modern screw on lids the bottle doesn't deform and the rider is more likely to crash. I don't know if anybody still makes the old push-on lids but the bottles that were scattered on the road were screw on lids.............


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 10:22 am
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Elite bottles apparently offer a 'blow off' which means if you ride over them the bite valve will immediately open.

My experience is that the bite valve is hard to enough to open when riding, which has frequently resulted in my giving myself a cold facial when the valve eventually does pop open and sprays everywhere...


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 10:32 am
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Posted : 06/10/2020 10:54 am
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Thomas has abandoned the race. Fractured Hip.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 10:55 am
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Thomas is out with a fractured hip unfortunately.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 10:55 am
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Thomas is out with a fractured hip unfortunately.

He has got to be up there with Richie Porte as one of the unluckiest riders ever to set wheel in the peloton.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 10:58 am
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He has got to be up there with Richie Porte as one of the unluckiest riders ever to set wheel in the peloton.

Yes, but he did get a minor consolation prize a couple of seasons ago.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 11:10 am
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He has got to be up there with Richie Porte as one of the unluckiest riders ever to set wheel in the peloton.

I don't know, at least G has won the tour.

Re. bottles, certainly the Elite bottles do have a blow-off where they open if you ride on them. For G's crash though it was more that it slid away from under him than it having water in it.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 11:11 am
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Shit news 🙁


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 11:31 am
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another crash caused by a loose bottle.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 12:58 pm
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Just seen that. wtAf?


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 12:59 pm
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Switfy been down too, doesn't look happy.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 1:05 pm
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Really feel for G there - he does seem to have more than his fair share of crashes, but that one was pure bad luck.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 1:11 pm
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Bora want to split the peloton.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 1:18 pm
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oh that all looks a bit greasy!

flipping eck, wet polished basalt flagstone road !!!!!


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 1:42 pm
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that was fun 😀


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 2:56 pm
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Noooooooo

Sagan beaten by microns !


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 2:59 pm
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might have snatched it with a 30 mil tyre ! 😉


 
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Posted : 06/10/2020 10:40 pm
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lumpy bumpy


 
Posted : 07/10/2020 8:48 am
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https://cyclingtips.com/2020/10/a-simple-bottle-cage-rule-couldve-prevented-geraint-thomas-giro-crash/

Back on the subject of water bottles...


 
Posted : 07/10/2020 1:48 pm
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impressive!


 
Posted : 07/10/2020 3:40 pm
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Back on the subject of water bottles…

Dr Hutch has suggested camelbacks, the team cars having trailing refuelling hoses a bit like the RAF have for mid-air refuelling............


 
Posted : 07/10/2020 4:37 pm
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Ganna may well be the biggest guy I’ve seen win a stage of that sort in a long time.


 
Posted : 07/10/2020 5:23 pm
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{quote]Dr Hutch has suggested camelbacks, the team cars having trailing refuelling hoses a bit like the RAF have for mid-air refuelling…………

I'm sure Camelbaks got banned because they were actually more aero. Pop one under a jersey and the bulge in the back irons out the disrupted airflow off the back of the helmet.

However I'm not sure I can be bothered trawling through the UCI's rule book to find out if I'm right or not!

Some TT bikes have tried things like bladders in the frame with a tube coming out the handlebars/stem but they're incredibly fiddly.


 
Posted : 07/10/2020 7:12 pm
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Did Quest drop the ball today or was it just my Sky box? Only recorded the last 3km of the stage ☹


 
Posted : 07/10/2020 9:28 pm
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worked for me on eurosport

(check yr PMs 🤐 )


 
Posted : 07/10/2020 9:40 pm
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Your sky box I reckon, my recording worked.
Pretty impressive stuff from Ganna, so good it almost made Wiggins look interested.


 
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