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Getting my new Anthem SX set up with a few rides in. Quick question - I have set the shock pressure to give the reccomended 8mm sag when in riding kit, this takes 175 pounds (I weigh close to 13 stone kitted up with Camelback, so 182 pounds or thereabouts). feels good riding but have noticed that even on big compressions, the o-ring is nowhere near the end of the shaft, maybe still 10mm away from it. Not being famiiar with the Maestro set up, wondering if this is normal ? My old 5 with an RP23 used to get the o-ring nearly pushed off on big compressions.
I did try dropping the pressure to 150, which gave around 12mm sag, but didnt seem to have much affect on the max compression position of the o-ring.
Silly question but are you setting the sag with the shock in descend mode.
The shock may still be bedding in a bit too.
renton - not a silly question, but no, doing it in trail mode 🙂
loving the bike so far, apart from annoying clicking from the internal cabling (I think) that started yesterday but lessened over the 3 hrs of the ride !
edit - did wonder about some silicon lube sprayed into all the pivots, but dunno if they are meant to be ran dry ?
Let all the air out and stick it in descend mode. Then pump it back up to give the correct sag and go from there bud.
I wouldn't spray anything on the pivots as they are all sealed bearings so shouldn't need it.
Whilst all the air is out though it maybe worth just seeing if it can get full travel.
Cables are a pain but i tend to pull on them as they go into the frame behind the head tube just to tension them up.
many thanks, cheers
I fixed the cable rattle by wrapping the cables in strips of self adhesive velcro:
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Not sure about the Anthem but the new Trances have a 200x50 shock on, however there is 57mm of shaft so you'll never get the o-ring more than 7mm off the end.Let all the air out of your shock and see if it's similar on an Anthem.
Am I the only one that thinks internal cabling is more trouble than it's worth? What was wrong with having cables run on the outside of the downtube anyway? Am I missing something here - surely they still have to come out to get round the BB and suspension pivots, so there's all that faff and two holes in your frame for what - 50cm of cable actually running inside the tube!!
treefeller - many thanks, will try that tonight, cheers
yes, the cable rattle is annoying ! [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/clicky-internal-cables ]other post[/url]
I believe part of the appeal of the Maestro design is the 'bottomless feel', I would'nt worry about it yet.
Give it all some time to bed in, then recheck in a few weeks time....if you're convinced you are being short changed with 10mm of travel you're not getting then take it to a Giant dealership and discuss with them.
On some Trance models the shaft has a potential 57mm stroke but there is a spacer inside meaning you only ever use 51mm of the shock travel, could be the same in your Anthem?
I am thinking that 7mm non used part is a likleihood, thanks. Will have a play with it with air out tonight, cheers.
And as for the rattly cables...grrrr, will just get used to it - they did quieten down after an hour or so yesterday so they will hopefully settle. I can replicate the noise just pushing on bike in garage, without touching bars, saddle, or pedals, so its either the linkages/shock, which is unlikley as just started on the 3rd ride on brand new bike, or the cables internally. I did wash and dry it after last ride, and rattle started then, so I suspect cables on that basis and by elimination. I will grease the dropouts tonight also tho !
I have a 2015 anthem. The O ring can push off the shock.
ac282 - thanks for that, will have a play with the air in mine, cheers
I have a Riegn 2 and never get the o'ring down to max travel,but what I have noticed is the rear mech cable sits along the side of the rear shock and sometimes gets stuck in the small gap between the frame and the shock.maybe same is happening to yours.I assume the rear suspension is same on the Anthem,Trance and reign.Shock mounted up and down and attached through bottom bearings on frame and top on suspension thing
Never mind,just read INTERNAL CABLE ROUTING DOH
^^^ 🙂
Having let the air out as suggested, the o-ring will push off, so I guess it needs to bed in.
However, this did allow me to find out that the rattling cables are not the issue, its actually the shock clicking when moving, or perhaps a linkage, so its a call to the LBS in the morning...
Edit - rattle cured, even though it would do it when not touching pedals, and when not touching saddle, such as by pushing down on the top tube, I thought I'd just unbolt the dropper and try it without post in same place and behold, it stopped 😳 post has fibergel on it and I guess a wee bit of grit was at collar and making it creak when any movement of the bike !!!
Might be worth checking there's no volume spacer in the the shock,it's unlikely but it can't hurt to have a look, wouldn't spray anything on your pivots, they're sealed cartridge bearings.
Thanks, when i let all the air out of the shock it fully compresses to end of shaft, so I presume no spacer. Will see how it does next few rides
8mm in 50 sounds a little odd.
Ok I'm only basic that on how I've set sag in the past and times move on. I'm going to have to set up a new Trance SX myself next week.
Old school rule of thumb would have suggested up to maybe 14 or 15mm ?
The simplistic Fox Float R on my old trance,seldom feels as though it's bottomed out, although the dust ring suggests almost full stroke, I run that set at up to 30% sagged for general trail use.
Fitting a spacer doesn't mean you don't get all the travel Iain. Don't be tempted to stick hard and fast to recommended 8mm sag, you need to mess about with the shock pump on a section of trail with some different festures on it, drops etc.
After bedding in, using the weight in pounds = pressure seems to be remarkable accurate for me. In Descend i get all the travel, but I race in Trail mode to make use of the platform.
Sag is 9mm, my weight is 166lbs and pressure is 165 by my pump.
Thanks, when i let all the air out of the shock it fully compresses to end of shaft, so I presume no spacer.
No, could still be a spacer in there, volume spacer increases the ramp up at end of stroke, shock would still fully compress to end of shaft with air removed.
8mm in 50 sounds a little odd.
Ok I'm only basic that on how I've set sag in the past and times move on. I'm going to have to set up a new Trance SX myself next week.
Yeah, but the maestro video on the Giant setup site says 8-11mm...
I'll drop the pressure a little to get it to around 10mm and go for a ride !
Thanks all
Kryton, the weight of 166lbs that you are going by - is that kitted up, with gear, helmet, pack etc ?
No, that's my birthday suit body weight.
Simple answer - you're just running too much pressure in the shock. Throw the book away and set it up in a way that works.
^^^^ aye, will drop it a little to match 'birthday body suit weight' 😀 , which is 5 pounds or so less than currently and let it bed in, cheers