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So its getting close to parting with my cash. The bike im after is one of these new stumpys. Now i dont expect to get much off but something is better than nothing right?
I left my details with my local LBS but they haven't contacted me so im looking elsewhere.
is it just a case of paying the sticker price these days or are there deals to be had? if so where?
Buy last years and save a fortune I would never buy a current year bike
Wby should you get a deal - genuine question to think about. It's a popular bike available everywhere and selling well.
What's your buying history with the shop? What are you worth to them?
Do you need anything else from them at the time, pedals, set up, service, upgrades?
Nobody pays sticker price for a Mondeo...a Stumpy is a Mondeo of the bike world (nothing wrong with that!). Ring round, somewhere will give you 10-15%.
Don’t ask don’t get. Just don’t go in expecting the owner to give you his daughter for the privilege of selling you a bike. See if they can throw stuff in? Helps if you are a regular customer, or will be too. Goes without saying to be nice about it too. ‘What’s your best price?’ Is not the way to start the conversation...
I, along with many others, get a good discount from my lbs, I've put lots of business their way over the years, recommended everyone from work to go there when I got my employer to do C2W etc, he was just establishing his business and so was grateful for the custom.
He's probably about the best stocked, and biggest bike shop in Scotland now, always gives me something off, but tbh, I've never once asked for a discount, as he's a mate too, and it just doesn't seem right!.
As said above, best way is to build up a decent relationship with folks, it goes a long way. It certainly helps that he sells brands I genuinely want to buy! 🙂
Have been looking at 2019 bikes & most bike shop seems willing to haggle. 10% discount = old aat yer and
works both ways - offering a deal to a serious buyer is a good way of gaining long term customers. Agree that the customer being anything other than polite about it is asking for a drop kick out the door tho...
British cycling at Evans would get you 10% off? And you can use clubcard vouchers etc
works both ways – offering a deal to a serious buyer is a good way of gaining long term customers
Absolutely, but tbh how do you seperate the wheat from the chaff? it would do my nut in, the amount of time the shop guys spend with tyre kickers, who only really want to sit on the thing, then buy online.
I don't think I'd be a good salesman!
well in a few short emails it looks like ive got a new LBS in halifax!
bloody hell. Now to find the brass.
I thought you had the cash! Bloody tyre kicker...
🙂
Best time of year to get a deal on 2018 bikes.
Bargain on an Expert model here (29er equivalent also discounted) - https://www.ukbikesdepot.com/m15b0s901p28799/Mountain_Bikes/27_5_inch_Full_Suspension_Mountain_Bikes/SPECIALIZED_Stumpjumper_Expert_650b_2018
Cycle Gear / UKBD will give you 10% off the list price of anything without even trying with the 10OFF code.
What new Stumpy are you after? Is it a 2018 or 2019? 27.5 or 29?
I typed UKBD/Cyclegear (opposite Piece Hall main entrance) before you mentioned Halifax. Bottom line is they will do a deal.
Absolutely, but tbh how do you seperate the wheat from the chaff?
Tell everyone to **** off, that way you only get to deal with the really keen ones.
works well, apparently.
yup worked so well im now buying it from a different lbs (its cyclegear btw)
I don't think Evans give the discount on bikes, think its just equipment and clothing?
I've always got very good discount on my bikes, but then for a long time I was pretty loyal to the brand/shop. The entire family, including in laws, all purchased our bikes and equipment in the local shop. Was good friends with the staff, including the manager and always received a top discount.
Went in to buy a new 2019 bike and unfortunately I couldn't get the usual discount (new manager in store). Because I had always had the discount I just applied that mentally to work out what I thought would be the cost. I was offered 10% discount, and while that's a good offer, it still made the bike outside of my budget, so as bad as it might sound, I had to go elsewhere. First time in at least 6 years (and I buy at least 2 bikes a year). The bike was expensive, so the discount would have made a difference. My buying history is on the computer so was there to be seen that I'm not a tyre kicker.
In the end I purchased a 2018 bike, a frame that I know is being replaced this year (its about 3 years old). Was 60% less than the bike I didn't buy, so saved me some cash I suppose.
Normally I just buy the bike I want, but this year I've had the wife being a bit more involved in my purchases, otherwise I would have happily accepted the 10% discount and gone over budget. Unfortunately Mrs is a lot less relaxed in these matters than me!
Andy, have you tried the chaps in Mirfield (Sowerby Brothers), not far from you. Spesh dealer.
I just bought a couple of bikes for the kids from Cyclegear and they're very accommodating, patient, easy to deal with and will chuck in extras and further discounts if you talk nicely to them. 5*. I would definitely buy from them again when I'm in the need for a new bike BUT despite being in Halifax they only fruit they sell are lemons 😉
I went into a big city bike shop and asked the price of a particular bike. The salesman gave me the discounted price without me asking. Went back a week later and asked for his best price for a cash sale (with my best serious face). A few minutes later he came back with his calculator, a new lower price and the deal was done.
Having been in the cycle retail trade for a couple of years now it has amazed me how some customers think they have a right to a discount from the outset .... and how downright bullying they try to be about it!!
Having been in the cycle retail trade for a couple of years now it has amazed me how some customers think they have a right to a discount from the outset …. and how downright bullying they try to be about it!!
Yes - this might be correct.
In summer time: the power is at the seller's side. I don't expect any crazy deals in this time of the year.
It all turns around in January or February. I buy all my more expensive stuff in this time of the year. Absolutely crazy what deals you are getting there...(frames, forks, wheels up to 50% rebate...)
Having been in the cycle retail trade for a couple of years now it has amazed me how some customers think they have a right to a discount from the outset …. and how downright bullying they try to be about it!!
It's hard to tell who's open to negotiation and who isn't, given that some shops evidently are willing to offer discounts going by the responses above. No excuses for being rude about it, of course.
I could also speculate that a lot of new bike sales go through C2W schemes or finance, do these have any cost to the shop? I could understand shops being willing to take something off the rrp if it gets the sale complete and the money paid up front.
Having been in the cycle retail trade for a couple of years now it has amazed me how some customers think they have a right to a discount from the outset …. and how downright bullying they try to be about it!!
It's not unique to the cycle trade. I used to own a shop specialising in high end RC Cars and it was definitely my experience that many punters resented me trying to earn a living!
CTW takes 10% of the value of the bike up to £1000 (which is the limit). As such aside from the big chains who rely on volume, most shops will add the 10% back onto the cost of sale bikes to maintain any sort of reasonable margin. For example, I recently bought a bike on ctw which was reduced to £1450, but cost me £1550 after factoring the additional £100 (10% on the first £1k). I still saved on CTW and got a sale bike, and the shop didn’t lose out.
On the flip side a mate of mine would’ve had to wait for the CTW window at work. Instead of waiting (he needed the bike there and then) the shop discounted the 10% to get the saleknowing that they would be getting the same deal anyway if bought via CTW.
Yep, agree there. c2w does change things completely. If you’re buying on c2w then you have little-to-no room to negotiate simply because they help themselves to their cut if the shop agree to do business with them. It’s not uncommon for something to be added to the price as a result although my latest c2w cost me 5% not 10...
Still a great deal, just under half the original RRP due to being 2018 and c2w savings even after adding a bit back in to recompense the vendor.
Maybe the thread title should be "Why you shouldn't go into the bike business" 🙂
A friend in business was plagued by people looking for discounts even though his prices were already cut, so he put up a sign showing his discount policy - which started at a dozen.
"A discount? Certainly! How many dozen do you require?" Job done.
Having been in the cycle retail trade for a couple of years now it has amazed me how some customers think they have a right to a discount from the outset …. and how downright bullying they try to be about it!!
I don't get why people get upset by this. In most industries it's perfectly normal to negotiate on price - e.g. at work i'll drive my suppliers prices down, and likewise all of our customers will absolutely hammer us on price. The customers job is to pay as little as they can, the suppliers job is to sell for as much as they can...
I" don’t get why people get upset by this. In most industries it’s perfectly normal to negotiate on price – e.g. at work i’ll drive my suppliers prices down, and likewise all of our customers will absolutely hammer us on price. The customers job is to pay as little as they can, the suppliers job is to sell for as much as they can…"
How does that work for you in Tesco ?
I don’t get why people get upset by this. In most industries it’s perfectly normal to negotiate on price – e.g. at work i’ll drive my suppliers prices down, and likewise all of our customers will absolutely hammer us on price. The customers job is to pay as little as they can, the suppliers job is to sell for as much as they can…
Do you negotiate at the petrol pump? when getting the family shop in Tesco? or with the barman in your local?....
7 seconds Terry! 🙂
Anyone working with procurement especially for big ticket items will ask for the 'best price'. In the public sector it is a requirement. If that's not discounted, fair enough.
If you're bringing up public sector procurement as an example of how to negotiate pricing...
Also, the 'best price' isn't the same as the 'cheapest price'.
In the public sector it is a requirement. If that’s not discounted, fair enough.
That is why we add on the discount we are going to offer you before the process starts. They always feel so smug knowing they got x% off the price they didn't know before they started.
In the public sector it is a requirement.
😂😂😂 a shining example of how to get the best deal possible.
what actually happens is the procurement people demand that the supplier adds x% margin to their cost. The supplier then gets 2 prices from the wholesaler. One to show the procurement guy, with say 2% added. The other for what they will actually buy it for, typically around half the first quote.
Hahahaha yes we'll. We have that requirement also.
What happens is you end up getting quoted 15 quid for a roll of duct tape and 70 quid for a sheet of 15mm ply.
And those will be the best prices available to you as no one wants to deal with your payment terms.
In most industries it’s perfectly normal to negotiate on price
Do you do this at the till in Tesco too?
EDIT : Missed all the other posts about the same 🙂
Just buy last years model. You can get great deals or at least I have in last two mtbike purchases. Bought gravel bike thingy off lbs didn’t ask for a price drop. They’re a good shop and need to make a living like everyone else. Love it when customers ask for cash discount with us. We just tell them the quote is for cash. If your an arse we’ll quote more.
Do you do this at the till in Tesco too?
Perhaps not at tescos, but then i'm not spending 4k on a single item in tescos. Would you go to a car dealer and at least not try and get a discount?
I've certainly got money off a number of times in dixons / pc world just by asking.
Perhaps not at tescos, but then i’m not spending 4k on a single item in tescos.
Bet it you spend more a year in tescos though. And you (probably) aren’t buying a bike every year.
I got membership at aston hill for a year £60
gave you 10% off at some local bike shops
then got a discount on my new bike 🙂
Regarding the Tesco-ists Ewan said "In most industries" not in most shops. Regardless the point stands that the cycle trade has always promoted deals for extras and due to the annual refresh of models has had an almost perpetual DFS style sale. Some shops openly promote permanent discounts (such as the aforementioned Cyclegear) where as others don't and it's these that are subsequently 'made' to compete.
One final point for the Tesco-ists, set yourselves up in the shampoo or gourmet sausage industry, get yourselves down to Tesco procurement with a one pound per item wholesale price and see where you end up. Voila 'most industries'.
Seems to be a bit of false equivalency going on here. Surely the "tesco-ists" are pointing out the comparison to consumer spending (b2c) as opposed to business procurement (b2b). Apples and pears etc.
Surely buying a bike is b2c so infact compatible.
The whole "I'm a big shot negotiatior for my company " people are the ones getting their apples and pears mixed up.
Just to say that i walked into cycle gear in halifax at the weekend and walked out an hour later with a brand new 29 stumpy expert.
I am one happy bunny. The guys in the shop were very fair and accommodating. possibly one of the lest LBS experiences ive ever had!
Not bad in comparison to blazing saddles who didn't seem bothered at all.