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This was found in Champery at the Euros.

https://flic.kr/p/2qbEbRb

https://flic.kr/p/2qbDKZw

https://flic.kr/p/2qbCt5u

Apologies for photo quality.

German company and a prototype, number 2, but they think it'll be in production this winter.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 8:09 am
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christ.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 8:23 am
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Out of production/business the following Spring.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 8:26 am
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Glad to see someone is taking the need for on-bike storage seriously...I reckon the Pontipines will be looking to holiday there!!!


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 8:26 am
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It was a heavy beast for sure, i picked it up (after asking of course) and i'd guess 2-3kg heavier than the Session.

It was an incredible looking thing and putting in some impressive results. (i've forgotten the rider)


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 8:29 am
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I made my crowns with some cutouts in and they are a nightmare to clean, can't imagine doing a whole frame like that!

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Posted : 23/08/2024 8:31 am
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putting in some impressive results

Which just goes to show that Lance Armstrong was right after all.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 8:32 am
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I'd hate to have to clean that after riding in UK conditions. Alloy wheels are bad enough!


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 8:35 am
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https://www.pinkbike.com/news/the-frace-f160-is-milled-from-a-70kg-slab-of-aluminium.html

Maybe it was this guy.... maybe...


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 8:37 am
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and they are a nightmare to clean,

Alloy wheels are bad enough!

Might i suggest a soft bottle brush in a drill?

I've got some CNCed bits like this (and did in the past have alloy wheels with ~20 spokes) and the bottle brush in a drill is a life saver.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 8:48 am
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Whoever it was it's a crazy, wasteful and un-environmentally friendly thing to do :o(

It must take hours, create a LOT of swarf and scrap and in Aluminium, with very high embedded CO2!

Like I said - what a waste :o(


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 9:24 am
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The positioning of the rear brake  and the angle of the rear frame at that point is quite interesting, I wonder if that has been done to minimise brake affects on suspension.

Is this just a prototype of the frame geometry, it does seem a rather poor way of making a production frame?


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 9:32 am
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Is this just a prototype of the frame geometry, it does seem a rather poor way of making a production frame?

That's not the impression i got from chatting to the guy. I think the fella i was chatting to was the parent of the racer rather than the frame builder. But if it's the one above, that seems to be what they work on, CNC cut-out frames.

Looking at the pics i should have taken a few more from the brake side as you're correct in that it's quite an unusual setup.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 9:40 am
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So much attention to detail on the frame, then they don't bother to line up the rear tyre logo with the rim??


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 9:43 am
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Surely give it a quick spray with snow foam and then just turn the hose on it and all those gaps get cleaned without too much hassle.

I'm impressed to see the chain guide is ziptied round the whole stay and not going through the hole in the frame - assuming that puts less stress on the ziptie so it won't snap so quickly?

Assuming it is very heavy as the frame would be very flexible given the amount of gaps...reminding me of a Kirk Revolution frame for some reason!


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 9:48 am
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I think there's a red one of these kicking about too, pretty sure I saw one in a recent video of a DH race.

*might not be the same bike, and the race itself might not have been recent.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 9:49 am
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Innovative way to remove the internal cable routing requirement that's almost mandatory these days.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 9:53 am
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Bloody hell. You wouldn't.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 9:58 am
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What are the claimed performance advantages of this frame then? Or is it just an engineering vanity project.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 10:04 am
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What are the claimed performance advantages of this frame then? Or is it just an engineering vanity project.

The discussion was to do with frame flex and rigidity.... but he was very very German and i'm very English.. So communication was slightly limited.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 10:07 am
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That's horrid on many levels


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 11:22 am
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An invisiframe kit would be quite a challenge.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 12:01 pm
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Looks like a floating brake arm rather than the frame.

Quite an old idea.

Yeah, you are right, it was the "chunkiness" of the arm that fooled me into thinking it was part of the rear triangle at first glance.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 12:04 pm
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No room for sponsors logos either...


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 1:40 pm
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Lifespan on that is going to be??


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 1:59 pm
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Lifespan on that is going to be??

That depends upon how he's designed the frame. If the stresses are kept low enough it COULD last a long time.


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 2:30 pm
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but he was very very German and i’m very English.. So communication was slightly limited.

For you Tommy, the race is over


 
Posted : 23/08/2024 4:38 pm
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Posted : 29/08/2024 7:31 am
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What comes around, goes around. This was 2016..... The idea was a modular base that could be changed to different types of frame. Saw it at Eurobike, Friedrikshaven in 2016

https://velomotion.de/2016/02/42915/


 
Posted : 29/08/2024 8:37 am

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