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Hi all,
Looking to update my aging and creaking Garmin 800 to something more modern. Mix of road and MTB use and it'd be good to link up to my wahoo kickr core too. I do have a vivoactive 3 and am mostly looking for routing support.
Does anyone have any thoughts/experience on either of these units? My heart says wahoo but my head says garmin as as nice as the wahoo set up is I'm only likely to use that for a bit and the trailforks integration is likely to be more useful to me off-road.
I know price wise the 830 is closer to the roam but I don't think the touch screen is that much of a draw for me and how I want to use the unit.
I’ve just swapped my 810 to a 530 the 530 is loads better, but I’m missing the touch screen more than I thought I would.
Not tried the wahoo ones, but I have a mate who’s switched and not complained
@prawny Does the 530 use OS maps?. I have OS on my phone but it doesn’t seem to spin the map so forward is up
Fowards is up on a garmin 530
Not sure what maps it uses to be honest, I’ve not used it outdoors yet 😳
It’s got the trail forks app installed though so it’s definitely better than the old base maps
I've just upgraded from an 810 to 830 (basically a 530 with a touch screen). Seems like the maps included are open streetmaps, so plenty of detail, and just need to get used to the colour / key differences from the manually loaded osm from my old 830.
The garmin IQ apps make syncing with Strava, komoot / trail forks etc a complete doddle. So far I'm really impressed with what, on the face of it, is a largely similar device. I wanted touch screen to make moving around on the map for navigation easier. But I'm under the impression that the 530 is nearly as good.
My main issue with 530 is setting the screens up or doing anything while moving. Although tbf, I hardly ever changed the 810 once I’d got it set up, apart from the million or so times I had to do a factory reset on it before eventually trading up with garmin.
I’m not actually bothered about all the ride data etc I just need the on road navigation and off road mapping for finding trails.
If you primarily want mapping/navigation then I'd look at the Explore rather than the 530. Similar money but the bigger display and touchscreen makes it much, much easier to use IME.
Off-road mapping is going to be less than perfect whichever device you buy because they're all using maps based on OSM data. It's more about how it's rendered on screen: Wahoo is simple and clearer, Garmin is more detailed. To my mind neither achieves the perfect balance, though with Garmin there's the option of loading other maps.
I used to have a 520 and when I upgraded I chose the Roam and I aboslutely love it. It's perfectly designed and quite obviosuly made by cyclists. The symplicity of loading routes onto it and following them is great, as are the re-routeing abilites on the fly. The phone integration and worldwide map updates are brilliant too.
I honestly think I ride more since getting it
I love my 530 but I did invest in the remote so I can scroll through screens without taking a hand off the bar.
Edit: Trailforks works great too.
Just gone from an 800 to an 830 and the 830 is brilliant! Running my old (from the 800) 1:50 Talky toaster OS maps on the 830 no problems. Went with 830 as I always liked the touchscreen on the 800.
Really like that on my MTB profiles I have the OS maps but on the Road bike profile it's set to use Garmin's (excellent) road maps and routing.
Never owned a Wahoo
Garmin seems to have upped their game....
Thanks all, I've gone for a 530 in the end. As much as an 830 might be better it too much extra for a touchscreen option for me.
Sound choice I think. Much as all the button pushing is a faff, especially on the map, at least the buttons don’t care what gloves you are wearing or how hard it is raining and you won’t be scraping a load of grit orotund the screen on a muddy ride
Good choice.ive only used my 530 locally so far to get used to it and I think it's great.dont however find the menu very user friendly but I've got used to it.the maps are brilliant.did not fancy paying for a touch screen and using one either.trailforks is brilliant and although you can also choose strava I do not use this.
so its possible to use OS maps on a Garmin?
Just gone from an 800 to an 830 and the 830 is brilliant! Running my old (from the 800) 1:50 Talky toaster OS maps on the 830 no problems.
Did you transfer off a micro SD card? Is there a guide to do that as I might try to do that with the OS 1:50k I have on my 800 at the moment.
Garmin wouldn't let me transfer my OS maps from my Dakota to my 830. They said I needed to buy them all over again, so I didn't.
Is there a guide to do that
Talky Toaster “OS” maps aren’t OS (Ordnance Survey, commercial) maps. They’re OSM (Open Street Map, free) maps styled to look broadly like OS Landranger maps.
Getting OSM-derived maps onto any Garmin with mapping support is easy. Actual OS mapping comes with copy protection designed to tie it to the device or SD card it came on.
Talky Toaster “OS” maps aren’t OS (Ordnance Survey, commercial) maps. They’re OSM (Open Street Map, free) maps styled to look broadly like OS Landranger maps.
They are now but way back in the day they were OS maps.
Did you transfer off a micro SD card? Is there a guide to do that as I might try to do that with the OS 1:50k I have on my 800 at the moment.
Yes just copied the map from the root of the SD to the root of the 830
Awesome, will give it a go when it arrives.
They are now but way back in the day they were OS maps.
Ah, ok. But still (I assume) different to Garmin's OS maps, which have two copy-protection files alongside the map file itself that will—as far as I'm aware—only unlock the map if used on the original media. But I've not tried it. I probably should, I guess 🙂