Front Mech Woes
 

Front Mech Woes

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 vww
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I know, sounds like a problem from 2004.

Anyway, my wife's Liv Devote gravel bike has 2x10 GRX with a Tiagra front mech (one with the silly looking long lever thing). It's a pig to shift, even with fresh cable and housing. Two options:

1 - Try the proper GRX front mech. Newer design, designed to work with GRX levers, might just be plain better?

2 - Is the mech fine and it's the crap internal routing at fault? Would drilling out the stops and running full length outer make a bigger difference?

Any ideas? I'm reluctant to drill the frame, but I'm wondering if the housing/routing is more at fault than the existing mech.

 
Posted : 10/04/2025 9:12 pm
 PJay
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Worth trying the GRX mech. first.

Merlin have them for £15.

https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-grx-rx400-front-derailleur-10-speed-244103.html

 

 
Posted : 10/04/2025 10:19 pm
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GRX is designed around a different chainline,  2.5mm further outboard than regular Shimano road stuff. What crankset is on there?

 
Posted : 10/04/2025 10:52 pm
 vww
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I wondered about the chainline. It's an FSA Omega with Tiagra mech. Would like to stick a GRX chainset on too as the FSA is a bit yuck. Good spot on Merlin 👍 

 
Posted : 11/04/2025 8:13 am
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My gravel bike had a GRX front mech with a cheapie Prowheel road chainset. Seemed to work fine, I'd try it. I then swapped the chainset for a GRX one anyway, that works fine too - it just matches now 🙂

That GRX mech was very easy to set up. Works really well.

 
Posted : 11/04/2025 10:40 am
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Run a test external cable first before you start drilling frames. Doesn't even need to be ziptied to the frame, just a clean run between shifter and mech to see if the routing is the issue.

 
Posted : 11/04/2025 11:25 am
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Posted by: montgomery

Run a test external cable first before you start drilling frames. Doesn't even need to be ziptied to the frame, just a clean run between shifter and mech to see if the routing is the issue.

I was going to suggest this.

 

Also, make spray a bunch of lube over it and work it back and forth to make sure it isn't stiff from exposure to the elements.

 
Posted : 11/04/2025 11:38 am
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I think on those the stops are on the headtube and the inner runs inside the downtube, so it isn't really exposed to the elements. I reckon if it's still stiff with brand new cables, I'd start looking at the mech and checking the action on that.

 
Posted : 11/04/2025 12:48 pm
 vww
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Thanks all. Will give some these suggestions a go. Ordered the GRX mech from Merlin - for £14 it's well worth a go. And got some more cable outer to experiment with too.

 
Posted : 11/04/2025 3:54 pm
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I've got a 4700 front mech on one bike and a very similar looking 6800 on the other and I would say I get an appreciably better shift from the 6800, both being operated by Tiagra levers 

Have you played with the little 2 position nubbin thingy below the cable clamp? 

I'd suggest a fresh cable, but take it off first and give it a jolly good scrub and drown it in some form of oil first to ensure it's as free moving as possible, I'm not convinced a full length outer solves all issues TBH. 

That said if a GRX mech is cheap, it's probably worth a try. 

 

 
Posted : 11/04/2025 7:34 pm
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i have a GRX 400 front mech on my gravel bike with GRX400 levers and it shifts just fine - given how cheap the GRX400 front mech is i would be tempted to try that 1st ( after verifying that the inner cable is running free even under tension) 

 
Posted : 11/04/2025 9:39 pm