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Hi There I am knew to this so please excuse me if im asking questions which have already been asked by others !!
I recently purchased a fox racing shox transfer 175mm drop as recommended by friends. The first ride i went on the dropper went right up and down but when i use the dropper arpund 3/4 up and press the remote it wont go up unless i sit down on the seat and drop it down a little then press again. i have adjusted the cable but sometimes the dropper slowly drops on its own so i back it off to stay up. Still happens regardless so maybe a sticky piston as my mates works absolutely fine ! any ideas or should i return it back to the supplier ?


 
Posted : 24/12/2021 6:32 pm
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Sounds like the same stickiness mentioned with a few Transfer posts on the recent Pinkbike group test. I'd be contacting the supplier, shouldn't be a thing on a new post


 
Posted : 24/12/2021 7:01 pm
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First ride on my new 175mm post today.
Same as you describe.
I assumed it's just new and will bed in, with a few more hours use. Here's hoping...


 
Posted : 24/12/2021 7:05 pm
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Try slackening the clamp off a smidgen. Often works.


 
Posted : 24/12/2021 9:11 pm
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Also worth checking that the torque on the seatpost clamp bolt is correct. Some posts are more finicky than others with regards external pressure, especially if clamped at where the bushing is. Which is related to the fact that when the post is 3/4 up, there is less air pressure to fire it up.

I might be stating the obvious, but installing with fiber-grip in the seat tube and 5Nm on the bolt is generally correct. Might be able to go a little less than 5Nm depending how good the interface is. Grease around the bottom of the post helps stop any creaking too.


 
Posted : 25/12/2021 5:16 pm
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@bikerpaul24  have you resolved your problems ?

Mine does the same, and has done since new. It feels like it could do with a little more pressure.  I have put some SRAM butter under the collar, checked the seat clamp but still not improved.


 
Posted : 05/03/2023 1:17 pm
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Yeah you say you’ve checked the seat clamp, have you torqued it to the frame spec or backed it off as far as you can get away with? My, older, Transfer needs the latter


 
Posted : 05/03/2023 1:40 pm
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My transfer does it too but only in cold weather. In summer it was fine.


 
Posted : 05/03/2023 2:53 pm
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Yeah you say you’ve checked the seat clamp, have you torqued it to the frame spec or backed it off as far as you can get away with? My, older, Transfer needs the latter

Its the latter, it will return with a snap from being fully compressed, but not from half way ish. Not that impressed with it.


 
Posted : 05/03/2023 3:32 pm
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I've had a few of the Fox transfer's now, 3 of the original 2019 model and 2 of the newer 2021 model, all but one (which got sold) have developed issues eventually.

The first one lost pressure within about 4 months and with no way to pump up like the older brand X droppers, went back under warranty. They fixed/serviced it and 4 months later it did the same. Again it was fixed/serviced under warranty. The third time was possibly my fault after a crash but it developed a tiny crack where the brass keys sit and was declared dead by silverfish.

New model lost pressure again after 6 months so got a warranty replacement which I then sold on.

yes I did do all the troubleshooting, Change cable, seatpost clamp to about 2nm, Regreasing the bushing etc. and while greasing helped a little, never got it back to that original snappiness.

When they work, they are the best dropper post out there, and I have read many thing about people having theirs for years with no servicing which I'm extremely jealous of, but unfortunately, like their X2 shock, they are just not home mechanic friendly and sending to silver fish every 3 months is both expensive and inconvenient.

It's a shame as such a great post when it works, if they added a shrader valve so it could be pumped up with a shock valve it would be fine.

Onto the oneUp now.


 
Posted : 09/03/2023 5:01 pm
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Your local bike shop might be able to add pressure - I think it needs some long pump attachement. My LBS managed to fix mine and it's been great for over a year.

If it's working properly it really shouldn't be so sensitive to clamp pressure.


 
Posted : 09/03/2023 5:23 pm
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When they work, they are the best dropper post out there

Really? Mine’s from about 2019 too, died once just around its warranty running out then been fine since. I don’t feel it offers anything more than my Brand-X, but the Fox is longer that an really should be for a given drop (new version addresses this bit)


 
Posted : 09/03/2023 9:05 pm
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When they work, they are the best dropper post out there

In so far as it goes up and down and has 'Fox' written on it?


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 11:31 am
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When they work, they are the best dropper post out there

How so? They go down then they come up?

Define best? I've had less problems and more reliability from a £120 Brand X. Service kit is £30 and I can have it back up and running inside an hour.

First thing I did when i got my Slayer was shift the Fox Dropper.


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 11:44 am
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@relapsed_mandalorian

because its alot smoother/easier/nicer to actuate - thats something im willing to pay for over a one up with a one up lever (stiff lever, sticky horrible noises when extending, rattling etc)

i get some people dont care - but i do and the fox is still one of 'best' posts out there for the above

however mines has developed the same stickyness after 5 months use, silverfish/fox rebuilt it for free in 2 days, so i cant grumble and its been better than every since i had it back.....if it goes again in another 5 months, ill probably just get it serviced as it will be out of warranty.....

i love bikeyokes, but they are expensive and the last one i had, had a horrid klunk on it at full extension meaning every bump climbing off road you heard/felt it...sent it back and got another fox transfer....

problems aside of the fox its 100% nicer in action to use than a one up to me, but i understand some people just saying it 'goes up and down' and thats all they are interested in


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 12:37 pm
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I had a Transfer on the Occam until very recently. It basically just refused to drop and when I tried to remove the bottom cap it just crumbled. I'm guessing due to oxidation (dampness in the seat tube?). A new end-cap and mechanism was about £50, with no guarantee that would solve the problem, or even that I'd be able to remove the crumbled remains of the old one. I replaced it with a Brand X as I have one of them on the fatbike which works just as well and is a fraction of the price.


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 1:22 pm
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IMO of course, I've got/used a Crank brothers inline, Brand X, one up, Rockshox reverb and Specialized command, all have "Gone up and Down" and all have been more reliable than the transfer (even the reverb!), but when the transfer worked, it was smoother, quicker, snappier and just all round nicer to use. And of course the Kashima satisfied the magpie side of me.

Unfortunately I just didn't find them reliable enough and not very user servicable.


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 3:21 pm
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because its alot smoother/easier/nicer to actuate – thats something im willing to pay for over a one up with a one up lever (stiff lever, sticky horrible noises when extending, rattling etc)

again, not seeing any of that in any own comparison with a Brand-X. Pretty sure I’d fail a blind test miserably


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 3:28 pm
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because its alot smoother/easier/nicer to actuate – thats something im willing to pay for over a one up with a one up lever (stiff lever, sticky horrible noises when extending, rattling etc)

I've had, 2x KS Levs, 3x RS Reverb, 2x Fox transfes, 4x BrandX and 1x one up since 2012.

None of them have stood out against the other in any of the things you mention. Except the brand X which gives the same function as a transfer for 1/3rd of the price or Oneup for half the price of the transfer. They win on being functionally the same and having similar service intervals as more gucci posts, but being able to home serviced and not breaking the bank in the first place.

By all means spend your money on something nicer, but dont peddle such rubbish as a means to justify your extra spend - (because you don't need to justify).


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 3:29 pm
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LOL - ok its rubbish that i find a product better than another one, great logic, i forgot all products are created equally and therefore no person can ever have a different opinion - jesus, its just my experience

if you are happy with the one up then great, but dont peddle such rubbish as a means to justify your cheaper purchase (because you dont need to justify)

:rolleyes:


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 4:13 pm
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Oh bless you. What a beautiful passive-aggressive response. Very 2023. I commend you for being so on point, yet missing the point at the same time.

I said functionally the same. I did not say identical. That was for good reason. If those two are the same to you well, nowt I can do about that.


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 5:18 pm
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if you are happy with the one up then great, but dont peddle such rubbish as a means to justify your cheaper purchase (because you dont need to justify)

That kinda falls apart when you note I’ve purchased a Brand X and a Fox.

They go up, the go down. They have an audible clunk at the top so you know it’s up. They both have the same feel at the lever, but don’t peddle such rubbish as a means to justify your more expensive purchase (because you don’t need to justify)


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 5:27 pm
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Haha 😂 Absolute horse poop no way on this planet do the one up and fox have the same ‘feel’ the one up when used with a one up lever is stiff as hell, the fox when used with a fox remote is smooth as hell

The fox is a premium product with a premium feel when it goes up and down the one up does not, all of them go up and down but they are not all equal in operation, whether that bothers you or not (clearly not for you pair) then that’s up to you but to say they are the same is utter shite

The one up is cheap product with a cheap feel

Again they are my experiences, the fox is a far superior post, just like revive is annd and also the wolftooth, end of. Nothing you can say will change that I’ve used them both the one up feels cheap rattly POS and needs constant attention


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 8:38 pm
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I've debated with myself if it's worth trying to explain in a different way and decided that I should at least try, so here goes.

It's clear that the transfer is a'premium' product. It's very shiny, its smooth, its well manufactured. It has Fox written on it. Parking the fact that its knocked into a cocked hat in all aspects by Bikeyoke, the Transfer fulfills all of the functions required of a dropper post perfectly adequately.

Except a dropper doesnt have to do much.

It's is required to go up and down on demand. It doesn't need a fancy damper or whizzo air spring like a fork or shock. How much 'feel' is required to get your arse where you want it? My take on this is that its almost irrelevant as long as it does.

You may be surprised the hear that the brand X and Oneup do the same, in a perfectly acceptable fashion. Look at the list of droppers I've used.

Truth is the stand outs for the quality feel you describe is the reverb and the bikeyoke.

The transfer doesnt feel significantly different in a meaningful way (and it rattled like the others) to the BrandX or Oneup posts I've used. It's service interval was also pretty much the same, except you can't service it at home.

So a Transfer is a bit nicer, but functionally the same. Alot more expensive to buy and more expensive to maintain with no possibility for home servicing. If your priority is how lovely and smooth your arse slides up and down whilst it fulfills this basic function then fill yer boots. It bothers me not, its a free world, etc, etc, but cheaper posts do the same and theres really not much in it. Stating its alot smoother and nicer is just a fallacy. You're overstating your pudding by some margin.


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 9:42 pm
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end of 😂


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 9:45 pm
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EDIT : seriously wonder why this place doesn’t attract new members… there’s never discussions/different opinions to be had, just full of patronising middle aged men


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 10:12 pm
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never discussions/different opinions

There's plenty, you've been having one. The difference is you can't seem to handle ones contrary to yours so have to get snippy.


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 10:17 pm
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Seems like I shouldn't have tried.

Thanks for the entertainment though.


 
Posted : 10/03/2023 10:37 pm
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It's all gone a bit off-topic, but on reflection, when I get my Reverb back from repair (it had only done a dozen rides since being fully serviced before it developed a major squish) I will finally fit it with a Wolf Tooth cable actuator and send the Fox Transfer for repair.

I have 3 0neUps, I like their simplicity, hight adjustment, light weight but the cons are they do need very regular full stripdowns and cleans (especially if I don't run a rear mudguard) and the black on the stanchion wears off really quickly.

The Reverbs worked well until they contracted squish and show little sign of external wear.

I had hoped the Fox would have been the goldilocks, reliable, light and robust without requiring frequent stripdowns.


 
Posted : 11/03/2023 8:28 am

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