[Closed] Fox Forks how do you like yours?

reliable.

so I buy rockshox instead.

2009 Vanilla RL 140mm QR. Still going strong.

Love mine, cos

a) I can be bothered to look after them
b) see a.

Im running an old 06 set of 36 van rc2's, well sort of.

There on there 3rd set of stanctions as the first 2 came unbonded and started creaking. this took us up to 09.

The damping cartride ate itself early in 09 so had a new cartridge under warrenty.

I had the cartride custom valved the year later.

The years inbetween 2010 an now i found motocross. when you look at the current prices i find it hard to justify buying s new set when the ones i have work so well. there is always the second hand option but with the problems ive had with mine - i fell this might be a risky game.

I like my forks with not much low speed compression but then quite firm on the high speed - something i can do with the rc2's. not something you can do with a modern RLC or CTD without some serious internal messing?

There are also a doddle to strip and rebuild, i can have the full fork, cartride stripped cleaned, oiled n bled up in less than an hour

I like mine 2nd hand so they're not stupidly expensive and serviced by me so I can lavish care and attention on them every other mile as dictated by the service intervals.

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and

Given that these forks are the best on the market

Is quite a big assumption isn't it?

Just got rid of my Foxs for some new Pikes. So much better.

Fox 32s 140 RLC because thats what came on the bike.

Bikeind is clearly a troll

@ Kiwijohn - where d'you get em mate? How much?

We in the shop are all running the new Fox range and loving them

Do they really bring the trail alive?

2 * 2007 TALAS RLC, they've been fantastic, the odd DIY service.

Like mine, but wouldn't buy again. Too 'spensive.
After the Revs I had, I don't think I'd be rushing towards Rockshox either.
Marz next perhaps? Xfusion looking good and DVO could deliver. More choice is good.

I'd like mine in a 34mm stantion with a 20mm bolt-thru and better damping thanks.

Do they really bring the trail alive?

Only if mated to 650b wheeeeeeels 😆

Lefties and Rockshox.

Paid extra to avoid the Fox fork.

If they came speccd on a new bike I wouldnt mind (although Dirt have been really slagging off 2013 and to a lesser extent 2014s)

but theres no way Id pay full RRP on them absolute rip off, did everyone in the shop pay full price?

Ive got some 2006 RLC floats still going strong but they have required a lot of maintenence and the stanchions are looking somewhat battered
but ive also got some 2010 marzocchi RC3tis and they are waaay better,
my 2007 marzocchi 66 rc2s are also pretty darn amazing, and Ive only had to change the seals once and after dh races, uplifts, megavalanches weeks in the alps they look and perform much better than the fox ones

not ridden the newer fox stuff but Id take marzocchi or RS over them every time for price and reliability

out of 70 fox forx that Mojo sell only 2 of them are less than 700 quid
http://www.mojo.co.uk/foxforx.html

(I like fox rear shocks tho)

06 Talas RC2 converted to Float internals. Still work. Still get serviced. Still too many knobs to notice any changes i make.

Rockshockings should be sold in Toys R us....

Still wee'ing the shop you filthy little bugger.
Do us a flavour and go find a hobby eh.....

@ Kiwijohn - where d'you get em mate? How much?

I always recommend fox forks to all my clients, it also teaches them to learn how to maintain their forks, this is good practice especially when they take my stage two course which consists of alpine riding where being caught out by failing forks can be costly, a good service every 15 hours is essential and not very hard to do, quick seal check/clean and a change of oil really shouldn't be hard to do for a premium fork, I show riders how they can complete this task in less than 15mins. 🙂

been running my 36 van for ages now with no issues, although they are sprung a little on the light side so looking to swap to the heavy spring

Having owned a set of 36 Float with kashima and most recently a pair of 34 Talas that were fitted to the bike I bought, I cant stand fox forks, both forks suffered from the same problems, wallowy under breaking not enough small bump give and never used all their travel.

TBH I dont think I would ever stump up for a new set! you dont even get a shock pump FGS!!

Last set of 55 Rc3 Ti were fantastic shame they were 170mm or i would probably still have them. Just got my hands on a new set of Pikes which so far are fantastic they seem to be the perfect fork so far, time will tell.

That said the Fox float CTD on the rear is great!

but theres no way Id pay full RRP on them absolute rip off, did everyone in the shop pay full price?

Premium price for premium goods, isn't that how it is? :roll:Why would you want to settle for second best when you can have the cream for just a little bit more.

I like mine sold to someone else- flexy and divey, just not suitable for hard use.

Both positive and non here
No problems ever with mine as I always look after them by regular services

And I seem to be getting a but if grief for the 650b scenario but come on!!

We work in bike shops so yes cheaper but also our wages are not that great !!!

Loving my 34's on the 29er

Like my 32 rlc fit floats....but not keen on my 32 talas.

Would like a decent set of 140mm forks. Just wish they would release 140mm pikes for 26".

Do us a flavour and go find a hobby eh

[quote=bikeind ]Given that these forks are the best on the market
Which forks are you running on your bikes?
We in the shop are all running the new Fox range and loving them

got to be the 40's nothing else works as well up a trolls jacksie

OP I would ask you to try harder But I doubt you can

a good service every 15 hours is essential and not very hard to do

Every fortnight?

Dont care how quick I can do it how shitty is the product that you cannot last more than 15 hours without replacing all the oil
What do you do in a 24 hour race?

Dont care how quick I can do it how shitty is the product that you cannot last more than 15 hours without replacing all the oil

You pay for a 'premium' product, and have to spend half your life servicing them... I don't think so!

FWIW, I've had a set of Bombers since 2002...and they haven't had a single service. Granted they are probably knackered inside now, but they still perform adequately enough for me. Just.

a good service every 15 hours is essential and not very hard to do
Every fortnight?

I assume service intervals are lower on the 650's as the trial is literally coming alive all over them.

bikeind - Member

Yes ohhh yes today a customer came in to my shop and after a chat and me doing my usual sales pitch referred to me as a typical LBS owner with refrence to being a snob and walked out!

Huh
Typical is it ?
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Customer's are sometimes right....

Given that these forks are the best on the market

I thought the 2012 Float RL Evolution jobs that came on my Trance were OK. Nothing sparkling, but they did the job and never let me down. The 2013 CTD Evolution forks that I had on a demo bike on the other hand were truly awful. In trail mode they made my wrists ache but descend was unusable. Even a mincer like me could blow through the travel without trying (with 25% sag). Funnily enough I'm still considering a bike with 2013 CTD forks at the moment, but only because they are the Factory Kashima version (with trail adjust) and Simon at LoCo tells me he can upgrade the damper to the 2014 version.

Best forks I've tried (which admittedly isn't many) are the Dual Air Rev RCT3s fitted to my FF29.

'Given that these forks are the best on the market'
According to who? Even pro Fox MBR have been complaining about the latest offerings. Choose between supple and excessive fork dive or harsh ride and restricted travel. Worn CSU's seem to be a common complaint. 32mm versions are flexy compared to the competition. No reliability testing appears to be done by Fox, it's left to the customer and the service centres to sort out under warranty.

'Which forks are you running on your bikes?'
Rockshox. Minimal maintenence. Fantastic reliability. Well over 2000 miles with nothing but lower oil changes. Never had a leak, never changed a seal.
Unfortunately my Trek Rumblefish 29er came with a F120 RLC. It's been to Mojo 3 times and still doesn't perform as well as my older Revelation forks.

bikeind + richmtbguru are the same person. I am miss Marple.

2011 120mm Rockshox SIDs (easy to service and light) and '07 32mm Fox Talas (new 'old stock' in 2012) that are about to be experimented with - I'm going to try a significantly lower pressure in the IFP chamber in the hope the increase in main chamber volume will prop up the fork in the mid-stroke.

SIDs been serviced twice in 2500 miles, Talas at 700 miles, (re-sprayed and new SKF seals).

Wouldn't have bought the Talas unless they'd been at the price they were (less than £200 delivered - ex OEM).

scottalej - Member - Quote
'Given that these forks are the best on the market'
According to who?

Euro- because I too believe in a great product that works well, but far too many riders are too lazy to take the time to service them which is only a 15 min job done right, this is something I teach in one of my courses, you'd be surprised how many people say "if only i'd have known how easy it was" done properly fox forks are the most reliable out there.

[i]bikeind + richmtbguru are the same person. I am miss Marple.[/i]

Innit.

Both made up.

Rich, can you point me in the direction of your advertising to sign up for one if your courses? They sound fabby

Rebas on one and FIT RLCs on another. Both seem fine.

Don't think I'd ever pay RRP and next bike will definitely have some X-Fusions on them. I don't want the "trail literally coming alive" all over me.

CRD damper on my friends canyon lasted exactly one ride, sorted under warranty but seems a bit odd that such expensive forks should pack up like that.

I like mine with a 170/140mm travel adjust system that doesn't seem to compromise performance, 36mm stanchions, 20mm thru axle, effective high and low speed compression damping - Oh and £300 cheaper cos they are made by X-Fusion 😉

2 * 2007 TALAS RLC, they've been fantastic, the odd DIY service.

Me too, i think. Dark brown ones. I bought them in 2010 and sent them to TF be serviced as i'd no idea of their history. They needed a lot of work done (but the pinch bolts were still good). I didn't get everything recommended fixed as it would have cost the same as what i'd paid for them. Came back feeling great and not touched since. They could maybe do with a service now though as they lose air over time and need a topping up every few months.

I've also a pair of 150 RL Floats ('11). Again bought second hand and i've cleaned them a few times, and that's it. They work well up to a point but i'm contemplating changing to something that's not as fussy regarding pressure and a bit less twangy. XFusion Slants are top of the list.

As you can see, i'm not really cut out to be a Fox owner, given Foxs service guidelines don't match my own. Performance wise, they're good (and much better than the only other air fork i've owned - RS revs Dual air). The other makes of forks i've owned have been coil and i prefer them for feel and ease of not bothering to do anything but clean them.

Apologies if my hunch is wrong, but you should change your user name to richmtbpressrelease 😀

Nah, richmtbfantasist.

I'm running a 2005 pair of 36 Talas RC2's converted to Van RC2's and I love them...they're still on their original stanchions too.

They get serviced once a year and seem to be holding up pretty well. Until they die I've got no desire to change them however I won't be buying Fox again because they're too expensive and I don't like the CTD system. When I do have to buy some new forks it'll be X Fusion for me.

I do no agree with Richmtbguru !!

Its fair to say you would be better having them serviced by the professionals mojo Or TF or the bikes shops qualified for this!
I always always recommend this to my customers

bikeind - Member
I do no agree with Richmtbguru !!

[b]Its fair to say you would be better having them serviced by the professionals mojo Or TF or the bikes shops qualified for this![/b]
I always always recommend this to my customers

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It's important that riders themselves learn how to maintain their forks properly, as they need servicing ever 15 hours of riding, so do you really expect people to send them to mojo every time? Come on, please! 🙄
I give my clients, the chance to learn how to do practical tasks like this in my lessons, depending on which course they choose.

I have some 32 Float 140 FIT CTD w/Trail Adjust, not a bad fork, does what it needs to do..

Blimey, these super courses sound fabby, can I also learn how to change my gears? Put my socks on? book me up..

Rich

I do suggest a service by us the professionals always 8 months -12 months maximum

if bikeind and richmtb are the same person [s]troll[/s] , im loving their fake argument about shopvhome servicing

I have no plans to buy Fox forks again. Ever.

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Partly because of the silly wear-rate on the stanchions (bitter experience)
Partly because of the required nursing which I don't have time for
Partly because with the exception of the recent 34s, they felt divey
Partly because "it's a racing shock"
Partly because I would end up dealing with that twerp from mojo (who called me an idiot)

I give my clients, the chance to learn how to do practical tasks like this in my lessons, depending on which course they choose.

Of like to book a course please.

What's your web address ?

bikeind - Member
Rich
I do suggest a service by us the professionals always 8 months -12 months maximum
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And there is why people in the bike industry who sell them rave about them, it's a guaranteed constant income!

aaaannnnndddd again,

C'mon, lets have the details of these 'courses'.

Ha, what a crock of shit! Fox forks are the weakest, most prone to wear forks on the planet!

And there is why people in the bike industry who sell them rave about them, it's a guaranteed constant income!

Ha, what a crock of shit! Fox forks are the weakest, most prone to wear forks on the planet!

My 2008 F120RL QR15's are going strong, with an oil change and new seals each year. They are lovely and supple. An showing minimal wear - apart from bashes and scratches from being ridden all over the Peak and the Highlands, under 14st of me. I like. But I would not pay the price they now ask for these things.

Got a set of 2013 ctd 140 floats that came on a new bike this year - was shocking how bad they were, either blow through the travel or spikey as hell, nothing in between. Reverted to some 4 year old 140 vans which are superb in comparison.

Where's loco? He normally defends them?  and is also known for trolling!Perhaps he is the op??? 

No he doesn't - he's been singing the praises of RS Pikes over Fox recently. Jog on.

[b][u]rickt:[/b][/u] I have some 32 Float 140 FIT CTD w/Trail Adjust, not a bad fork, does what it needs to do

[b][u]mundiesmiester:[/b][/u]Got a set of 2013 ctd 140 floats that came on a new bike this year - was shocking how bad they were,

rict, were yours 2013 and, mundiesmeister, were yours the factory jobs with trail adjust or just the basic evolution? Just trying to understand the different experiences and work out whether the factory jobs are actually any better than the evolution model, which I also thought were amazingly bad.

I have always been a Fox fan but my 2013 Floats are currently on the way to Mojo, not even 6 months old. Seems my set have developed the horrible clicking sound as a result of a poorly designed/manufactured CSU. Having read other people's experiences with their forks going back multiple times with the problem CSUs I think my next set of forks will be of the Rock Shox variety, totally lost confidence in Fox now, although they do look nice.

So from reading this thread, I will be sticking with the old rc2's then

were yours the factory jobs with trail adjust or just the basic evolution?

However rct3 revs absolutely wipe the floor with them both.

Just trying to understand the different experiences and work out whether the factory jobs are actually any better than the evolution model, which I also thought were amazingly bad.

Evos are compleatly different to the FIT carts. which in 2014 spec. should be pretty good having been given more compression damping.

34 talas ctd etc utter tosh . Either dive or are harsh with more air in

Keep reading about people adding oil to the air spring but guessin that's not on talas ones ?
I'm saving hard for a nice avalanche cartridge at the moment unless any one know of a coil conversion for 34s

Prob should add I've used many fox forks and still have old 2004 32s that are just fine with no Stanton wear
It's just this latest pair that seem poorly

Have they done anything to the air spring (which was too linear) as well?

I know you can upgrade a 2013 damper to the 2014 unit, but presumably you'd still have that linear spring. Is it still just a case of sticking a few ml of oil in the air side to reduce the volume and make it a bit more progressive?

Yes on both, the upgrade is replacment internals for the damper cart. as opposed to a full new cart.

roverpig - Member

rict, were yours 2013 and, mundiesmeister, were yours the factory jobs with trail adjust or just the basic evolution? Just trying to understand the different experiences and work out whether the factory jobs are actually any better than the evolution model, which I also thought were amazingly bad.

mundiesmiester:Got a set of 2013 ctd 140 floats that came on a new bike this year - was shocking

Yeah - mine are 2013's, took a bit of tweaking with PSI and rebound to get them where I wanted them and understanding the positive and negative effects once warm depending on surface , but now I find they run sweet, (Think im running them still maybe 5psi too hard and a click of rebound as I would like a little more movement on mild stuff when in descent mode, however even running the same trails they are different each run,) but that's a tweak I will do before I next go out i think...

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Thanks, they certainly look sweet 🙂

Had 2007 140 32 Floats that came on a new bike and thought they were good but not very supple on small stuff.

Had 2009 36 Talas on a second hand bike and liked them but the stantions were worn when I took them apart and then the Talas stopped working.

Had some 2011 Revs and didn't like them at all. Felt all wrong matched to a RP23.

Got some DT XMM 140's atm and have been very impressed although the sheen was taken off slightly recently when they had to have the Twin Shot damper replaced under warrenty (nearly two years old though).

I've come to the conclusion that no forks are faultless. If Fox can sort the stantion wear issue out they'll probably be a match for any other reliability wise.

Must admit I'm very tempted by a deal I've seen for f+f with the fork being a factory 140 CTD but am worried by all the negative reviews. As was asked earlier, are the Factory forks less prone then the Evo ones?

Must admit I'm very tempted by a deal I've seen for f+f with the fork being a factory 140 CTD

Me too, which colour are you interested in 🙂