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Are they having a laugh? £100 more expensive that the Reverb...


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:07 am
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That's a pretty penny more - I wonder how they are going to justify the price gap.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:09 am
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Not sure, but the £60 front mudguard surely is, almost 8 times that price of a Muddy Nutz!


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:09 am
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That cable routing sucks


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:10 am
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i played about with it at corebike. its nice but not as nice as my reverb 🙂


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:12 am
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Fox in overpriced shocker.

Wonder if you'll need to strip and grease it every 15 hours of riding as well? And even if you do when it packs in and blows oil all over your frame it'll be your fault. Oh but you can have a 'Kashima upgrade' for a mere £200 - getting the user to pay for rectifying a design flaw.

No thanks, I'll stick with my Gravity Dropper.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:12 am
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I wonder how they are going to justify the price gap
Well the reverb says Rockshox on it the doss says Fox on it.
Justified!

...in the MTB universe anyway


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:29 am
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Imagine what Ohlins could charge if they came to the engine-less.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:34 am
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Cane creek use ohlins bits and pieces I believe....

Stupid bloody price!


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:39 am
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Whilst I think that fox forks are worth every penny more than rockshox, there's simply no way I'd go back to a cable post let alone it costing me £350. Fox missed the boat with droppers. They should have left it well alone.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:46 am
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I'd like one of the mudguards though.

But i wouldn't be paying more than about £12.99 for a bit of plastic. £59.99 is just as ridiculous a price as the seatpost is........


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:47 am
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[i]Chris Porter (head honcho at Mojo) has been working closely with Fabien Barel and his mechanic Paul over the last few years to produce what could well be the best off road mud guard ever produced. This new front mudguard has had meticulous testing to make sure it’s as efficient as possible. Using an in depth computer simulation of a front wheel going through various types of mud they were able to refine the size and shape of the mud guard very precisely to ensure it gives the maximum amount of protection for it's size. It’s so dialled in through testing that if you were to take just 10mm off the front of the guard it would be 50% less efficient.[/i]

Computer modelling? For a mudguard? Methinks either Fox are taking t too seriously, or the author of the piece is a little gullible to marketing bullsugar, or both...


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 10:57 am
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Cane creek use ohlins bits and pieces I believe....

Stupid bloody price!

If you've ever ridden one, you'd realise they're worth every penny. The difference its made to my Orange compared to the RP23 is massive..


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:04 am
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Somebody should send fox a reverb - "this is the competition.... oh, and it's over £100 cheaper". I wouldn't mind if the lever and cable/post interface didn't look like they'd been cobbled together by the YTS boy in 5 minutes.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:04 am
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Computer modelling? We live in Britain - we've got plenty of mud of ALL different types.

Not surprised their post is that expensive, TBH. How much are their 40s these days? £1500?

The only reason I have 36s, is A) I picked them up dirt cheap on here, and they were in excellent condition. B) Zero problems so far (2005 TALAS R)
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Cane creek use ohlins bits and pieces I believe....
Stupid bloody price!

If you've ever ridden one, you'd realise they're worth every penny. The difference its made to my Orange compared to the RP23 is massive..

Could that coincide with the price difference you paid being massive?


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:04 am
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The angle of the front of the mudguard explains the 10mm/50% bit. And the alu bracket must add a little cost...thing is it won't replace the function of the crud-guard will it?

Thing is, I bet both products are owned by stwers shortly after release!


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:06 am
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Could that coincide with the price difference you paid being massive?

Nope, I bought it second hand. I think a new one (sans spring) is around the £450 mark, which is £100 more expensive than an RP23. Then you obviously need a spring...

If something's expensive but much better than a cheaper version, I think its justified. Unlike that Fox post....


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:17 am
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If that fox post proves to be reliable unlike any hydrolic post on the market at the moment then I'll pay that without question.
100 quid is worth paying rather than the hassle of repeatedly sending something off for repair, or having it fail in some remote location.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:25 am
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£350? A fool and his money are soon parted. Although, I only know that because I bought a set of Crank Brothers Iodine wheels.

(Mudguard is hideous too)


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:28 am
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Having had cable and hydraulic posts, the hydraulic reverb has been by far the more reliable.

Computer modelling? For a mudguard? Methinks either Fox are taking t too seriously, or the author of the piece is a little gullible to marketing bullsugar, or both...

I didn't think that Fox had anything to do with the guard? I though it was chris porters [s]cash cow[/s] baby?


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:30 am
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Although, I only know that because I bought a set of Crank Brothers Iodine wheels.

I feel your pain brother....*fist to chest*


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:31 am
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Cane creek use ohlins bits and pieces I believe....

Stupid bloody price!

If you've ever ridden one, you'd realise they're worth every penny. The difference its made to my Orange compared to the RP23 is massive..

stupid bloody price was refering to the DOSS, not the CCDB of which I would love to own one.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:38 am
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Although, I only know that because I bought a set of Crank Brothers ......
Insert name of any CB product.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:39 am
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If that fox post proves to be reliable unlike any hydrolic post on the market at the moment then I'll pay that without question.
100 quid is worth paying rather than the hassle of repeatedly sending something off for repair, or having it fail in some remote location.

My DSP bighorn has been faultless so far, only problem I had was down to me setting it up wrong. too soon to slag it off.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:40 am
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I think FOX have lost the plot a bit recently. Pricing is out of control on most stuff anyway, but the servicing intervals on the recent Fox stuff combined with the pricing is a joke. I like the idea of them, I prefer the look over other stuff but RS just works better and is cheaper.

Speaks volumes when Steve 'I can't understand you' Jones slags them off....


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:41 am
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What a crazy price. It doesn't even look to compare well with the Giant dropper post which is half the price let alone a Reverb.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:43 am
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My DSP bighorn has been faultless so far, only problem I had was down to me setting it up wrong. too soon to slag it off.

Yes I've read the thread. Agree its too soon to call on that one.
I got burnt with the 1st gen Joplin so I don't mind spending the dough but completely undertand everyones frustrations with all the failures.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:58 am
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1st Gen anything and you're taking a little punt really in my mind, even with the DOSS it's not a proven platform...yet.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 12:00 pm
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The lever makes me laugh.

Surely they could have come up with something better. I mean it makes the Reverb one look practical.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 12:04 pm
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😯
I made my flippant comment without actually clicking the link (as is the STW way) but just looked and
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Seriously
😯 😯 😯
What the hell? cable up the side of the post? so right where my thighs are. Enormous sticky out lever, ever heard of unobtrusive and ergonomic?

Mudguard looks just like every other fender out there only more compatible with fox forks, but £40 more compatible?


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 12:11 pm
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Looks liek the mudguard is a Mojo product not a FOX Racing product.. at least that's how it reads to me.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 12:14 pm
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They've left out the crucial detail - was the mudguard computer modelled with lasers? or just normally?...


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 12:57 pm
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at that price I think the lazers were attached to these

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Some muppet on here will still buy it though


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 1:02 pm
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Apparently you can get five hours out it without a full service.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 1:04 pm
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what the mudguard? Can't be a fox product then if it lasts that long


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 1:06 pm
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Fox in overpriced shocker.

Fox once again pushing the envelope. Pricewise.
Historically it doesn't take the others long to catch up with Fox.

Funny how typically everyone else increases prices to match what Fox demands, rather than Fox being forced to lower theirs.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 2:40 pm
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Funny how typically everyone else increases prices to match what Fox demands, rather than Fox being forced to lower theirs.

+1


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 2:47 pm
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Are they having a laugh? £100 more expensive that the Reverb...

UK RRP on a 2012 Reverb is listed as £299.99, even if no one is selling them for that, incidentally I can supply them too 😉


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 2:55 pm
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Loco, are you doing reverb servicing? Mine has done a full year incident free and I would like to keep it that way but can not see an easy way to pack it back up with grease etc?


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 3:01 pm
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Will be listing it as a service soon, but pretty busy at the moment, until I get some more staff trained.


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 3:03 pm
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Loco, how much for your reverbs then? email me if required by forum rules (in profile)


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 5:36 pm
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"Are they having a laugh? £100 more expensive that the Reverb... "
"I wonder how they are going to justify the price gap"
They already do this with their forks?
Price yourself above everybody else, then your product [i]must[/i] be better ..

Dear oh dear that mudguard ..
"if you were to take just 10mm off the front of the guard it would be 50% less efficient"
But you might be able to see where your front wheel is, rather than a fat peice of plastic
The Fox advert singletrack mag (pg41, issue 71) has a pick of fabien riding with the (or a similar) mudguard. Oh and the ground looks pretty dry

Also, they've mounted it [i]under[/i] the fork crown? Thereby reducing the room for mud/clag/leaves/sticks/2.3" conti mud tyres/etc to get through?

"What the hell? cable up the side of the post? so right where my thighs are"
+1

Oh and that lever, looking at it, it doesn't look like you can mount it under the bars at all?
So if you need/want to turn the bike upside down it'll sit on that lever, risking breaking it, same goes for if you fall off your bike
How much for a replacement lever? ..


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 7:12 pm
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But is it 27.2mm? That might rustle up some business...


 
Posted : 14/02/2012 11:23 pm
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The have put a premium price, 'cos people are willing to pay it for 'good quality products'.

I once worked for an ISP who had 2 different 'products' - Home Basic ADSL (£20/month) and Business Premium ADSL (£45/month).

Both products were IDENTICAL apart from the name and price.

Guess which one was the most popular (by a shockingly big margin)? It wasn't the cheaper one - all because of the name.


 
Posted : 15/02/2012 8:11 am
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Totally Laughable!

125mm cable actuated Dropper post you say?

Funnily enough SDH forget to mention the one they reviewed [url= http://www.southerndownhill.com/reviews/seatpost/x-fusion-hilo-seatpost-review.html ]3 days earlier[/url] which works out £115 cheaper (Assuming you're enough of a mug to pay list prices) and it isn't designed to stab the user in the groin with a bit of cable...

And £60 for a cobbled together mess of a fender??!!? Has the world gone effin bonkers?
For that sort of price I'd expect it to at least look like a finished product not a bit of old angle bolted on to a glued together collection of old milk bottles and guttering...

Have MOJO/Fox not noticed the recession?

FFS!


 
Posted : 15/02/2012 8:36 am
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I've had a couple of different brand of dropper post, none of them reliable, but then again i'm yet to try a reverb. I think they are incredibly useful things, but, £350 is way too much for me, they're just not worth that much. I'm still umming and ahhh'ing over a reverb at £200! Plus, I have to say the Fox version doesn't look good, and as someone else has said abouve the cable position could certainly be in a better position. Considering how long this has been in development, that's a bit poor


 
Posted : 15/02/2012 8:40 am
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£300.....

.......psssssh - only 10% of the "stw half decent watch" price 😆


 
Posted : 15/02/2012 8:47 am

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