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I've tried them recently just so a mate could ride my bike and I'm liking them. The Burgtec Penthouse's are mega grippy but mega heavy, tried Saint's and liked the grip. Any alternatives that might be lighter with the same grip as the Saints?
grip, mostly, is about your technique.
different pedals may feel different, but by and large they've all got more than enough *grip*.
no-one can tell you which pedals you'll like the feel of, it's like saddle choice idnit.
Cheap, light and grippy = Nukeproof Electron Evo. Only problem I've had is needing to threadlock an end cap that kept coming loose.
Saints are quite small, Raceface and Spank do look good but never had any. Dont think the Hope ones are brilliant to be honest. How about these -
[url= http://www.dmrbikes.com/products/pedals/vault-mg ]http://www.dmrbikes.com/products/pedals/vault-mg[/url]
Nukeproof Electon Evos are cheep and cheerful, grip really well and don't get all scuffed up due to their plastic body. I would say they grip as well as my DMR Vault Mag Ti pedals.
grip, mostly, is about your technique.
It's undeniable that some pedals offer more grip than others though?
My old point1 podiums offered miles more grip than my current new burgtecs.
The saints are OK.
grip, mostly, is about your technique.different pedals may feel different, but by and large they've all got more than enough *grip*
There's quote some difference in grip between my old Penthouse's and the Saint's, on the former I have to take my foot off the pedal to reposition.
Newer Burgtecs or ti axle upgrade for your existing pair.
Not cheap* but have been very impressed with these for a balance between weight, strength and performance.
https://www.syntace.com/index.cfm?pid=3&pk=2177
*I didn't pay that and would struggle to justify doing so.
couple of friends have the dmr vaults and swear by them.
i personally prefer my easton cullys
I've just replaced my Saints (Knackered bearing) with Nukeproof Electron Evos and they are grippier , lighter, and look better
Didn't like the Saints - too small
Burgtec penthouse are a great shape but had too much grip for me. I kept placing my feet slightly wrong then not being able to move them.
Hope F20 seem the perfect shape for me and have decent grip but not amazing. They do some longer pins though so I'm gonna try them next.
Borrow some from mates until you find the right ones.
Love my DMR Vaults, super grippy.
They do make a mess of naked flesh though.
Electrons for me too. Take a ride or two to get whatever was in the mould off them and get them properly grippy but after that, great.
DMR vaults are a huge pedal, let down by typically crap DMR bearings. every set i've seeen or used have a very short lifespan. over priced tat.
i'm having great results with the specialized Boomslang pedals. one of the few pedals i've used that has never developed any play and is incredibly grippy.
Technique does play a part, but not that much, some pedals are not grippy at all. others are amazing.
Concavity has a big part to play in this, if a pedal is too flat, your foot doesn't sit "in" it properly. Vaults, Crank Brothers and similar are guilty of this flaw.
Superstar Nano's superb with 5tens
Superstar El Plastique are light and very grippy and only £24. Got them on two bikes and the only problem I've had is one of them squeaked like a mouse for a while at the seal. I bought a bag of replacement pins after bending one. If you hit a pin hard enough though you can make a pin hole unusable although I've managed to do that with the Nano tech metal version too in the past. I've learned to be a little less clumsy over time but I wouldn't buy super expensive pedals because they're in harms way all the time. These work really well. They look identical to the Nukeproof ones too.
Grip on pedals is a lot about technique, especially dropping your heals on the rough stuff. I wear Shimano AM41 flat shoes. I'll never clip in.
RSP FTW seems really good so far- decent sized platform, thin, light... I broke a pin on literally the first ride but to be fair I did tan it off a big rock so, can't hold that against them (and the pedal was undamaged). Not supercheap at £55 but worth a look I think. Remains to be seen how well they last though.
Prefer them to my nanos and vaults so far.
Superstar/Nukeproof/CarbonCycles - all the same great pedal:
http://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&c=84&p=940&tb=001
ahwiles - Membergrip, mostly, is about your technique.
different pedals may feel different, but by and large they've all got more than enough *grip*.
no-one can tell you which pedals you'll like the feel of, it's like saddle choice idnit.
DezB - MemberSuperstar/Nukeproof/CarbonCycles - all the same great pedal:
http://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&c=84&p=940&tb=001
Both good shouts.
DMR vaults are a huge pedal, let down by typically crap DMR bearings. every set i've seen or used have a very short lifespan. over priced tat
from my experience I couldn't disagree more. had over 3 years use on my vaults smashing them off rocks and ridding in the grinding paste that is peak district mud before i had to service them. even then it was only one of the DU bushing that had worn, bearings were fine.
they've stood up a lot better than many other pedals i've tried and as others have said the grip, size and comfort of the platform is brilliant
sofaboy73, seems to be the usual thing with DMR, you get the odd pair that last forever and then sets that last one ride. in my case (and my mates) we have all sadly fallen into the latter camp.
good pedal, must just have rubbish tolerances.
I bought my Vaults about 4 years ago. They've been smashed off rocks everywhere between Malaga and Morzine and they're fine. Missing a few pins but they come with spares. Currently reduced on CRC. Will you really notice the extra grams?
Do the saints have issues with poor bearings? I'm undecided between those, electron evo and the v12 new model.
V12 would be my choice from the above. Not the magnesium ones though, too soft, I've damages a few pin threads by rock strikes.
The bearings have gone on all 3 of my mates pairs of Saints, iirc you can't get bearing kits for them either but there are fixes.
Electron evo, superstar nano etc. I don't get people paying 3 times as much for heavier pedals that offer no grip or durability advantage. I've put longer pins in my nanos after 2 years and the grip is incredible.
I thought my saints were fine until I rode a bike with nanos on and they had so much more grip . Saying that I have vaults on mine now as I'm a tart and wanted something pretty for my new bike , they work really well though .
Superstar currently doing 25% off the new UK-made Nanos - making them £30.
Just can't decide between black and gold.
Vaults are ace. And zero issues with bearing life, have three sets, wouldn't use anything else. If they develop play, a quick strip, regrease and reassemble has them good as new - have only had to do that to one set.
Wellgo MG1.
Light, cheap, grippy, last well as long as you avoid big rocks.
Have you ever considered HD plastic flatties with removable pins.
I am so impressed with the Deity ones atm that when my Dmr v12s melt, I may well replace with a set of them on the big bike too.
I. Still using my old skool
Azonic X pedals.....a bit heavy ...but perfect for me......I did see some on the bay used for £45 last week!!
[quote=Northwind ]RSP FTW seems really good so far- decent sized platform, thin, light... I broke a pin on literally the first ride but to be fair I did tan it off a big rock so, can't hold that against them (and the pedal was undamaged). Not supercheap at £55 but worth a look I think. Remains to be seen how well they last though.
Prefer them to my nanos and vaults so far.
Hasn't been long but how are you getting on with these? I really liked my vaults but they did eat bearings (I was doing quite a lot of miles and I'm pretty happy getting wheel axle deep in puddles tbf) but I snapped an axle at Antur :/
Cha****ng, got a link?
Nanos start at 39.99, only black in stock
Code BTS25WEB in basket for discount
Thankyou!
The new burgtec 4s with Ti axles are nice and light and very well made. They also cost ****ing fortune! Vaults or Superstar I reckon. Vault bearings are pants though but they are easy enough to work on which is a bonus.
OMG! There is a rude word censor here these days.
Think of the children!
Thankyou!
NP, does it let you pre-order a colour with the discount code?
Only problem is I don't know what colour my next bike will be.
Nanos for me everyday, everything you'd want in a flat pedal.
chvck - MemberHasn't been long but how are you getting on with these? I really liked my vaults but they did eat bearings (I was doing quite a lot of miles and I'm pretty happy getting wheel axle deep in puddles tbf) but I snapped an axle at Antur :/
Still doing good... I decided to open them up last night actually, one of them had got a little loose/buzzy but it turned out just to need the endcap tightened so nothing troublesome. Gave them a clean out and grease anyway, they're well sealed, no dirt ingress or anything. Good start.
They've got a tiny little flat bearing doofer in the endcap which I'm not that pleased to see, similiar design in my HT AE01s was completely useless but these at least are protected from the elements. It's still not ideal. OTOH they're basically there to make servicing and setup simple, they don't do anything you can't substitute thin washers for with a little more faff. So it's not going to affect the life or use of the pedals, it's just a minor black mark.
All in all, pretty happy. They're going to be less robust than a Nano I think but that's pretty reasonable considering the weight, thin-ness and price.
For whatever it's worth, I want to try the Electron Evo too- I had the old Electrons and wasn't impressed, they ended up on my commuter but these try to sort the faults of the original.
DMR V6s are only £12 from the German sites. They're grippy and light. Maintenance-free but I bet the useful life to cost ratio is way better than NP Electrons, V12s, Vaults et al