Fishers and Giant c...
 

  You don't need to be an 'investor' to invest in Singletrack: 6 days left: 95% of target - Find out more

[Closed] Fishers and Giant can blow me

48 Posts
26 Users
0 Reactions
117 Views
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

My Pike has gone wrong for the third time in 6 months, heading out to wales to go riding next week. I've had issues with unwinding Maxles, brakes pissing themselves and coming back simply having been bled and not being replaced.

The rebound is shot, leaking oil from the damper. Last time it went away for shot compression circuits (about two months ago) it took six weeks for Fishers to sort and it came back without any oil in the lowers and the crush washers missing.

Giant have now said that it will take 5 weeks to get the fork turned around and they didn't have a bike to lend me as they sold all their ex-demo fleet.

So the fork has gone to TF tuned at my own expense and will hopefully be back by Friday. If I'd wanted this kind of service I'd have bought a direct sales bike.

Cockwombles.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 12:34 pm
Posts: 2601
Free Member
 

NOT ENOUGH CAPITALS OR BAD SPELLING
2/10


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 12:39 pm
Posts: 17
Free Member
 

I think it's extra for that


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 12:40 pm
Posts: 953
Full Member
 

YR rAnt is sAracIN. But I get your frustration.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 12:41 pm
Posts: 5559
Free Member
 

Sale of goods act

If only TJ was here to advise


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 12:42 pm
Posts: 3167
Full Member
 

[url= http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-to-get-a-faulty-product-replaced-or-repaired ]Warranty claims advice.[/url]

You may be within your rights to reject the bike. However you are not entitled to a 'courtesy bike' whilst yours is being repaired...again. Hassle your retailer. It's them you have the warranty with.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 12:43 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

It's just a heads up really guys, I've given up caring. Don't deal with Giant Rutland Water or Fishers if you can help it. My bike would have been in for warranty issues for 13 weeks of this year so far if I'd sent the fork off to fishers.

All I want is a bike to ride for my holidays, so yeah. My old man bought his new Mega off a rather wonderful small LBS - he had an issue with the Monarch and got a new one in the post from Hotlines/CRC before he'd even sent the original back.

If some online reseller like that can manage that level of service, I'm sure Giant could if they could be arsed. But they mostly seem to care about road bikes and hybrids which don't have issues with suspension and likely have better margins.

Their reply when I told them that I may like a refund as the bike wasn't fit for purpose was "we don't know what kind of riding you've been doing on it".


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 12:43 pm
Posts: 9180
Full Member
 

That's proper shit OP. I'm angry on your behalf! Seeing as they already seem to be being difficult, I suggest a little bit of highlighting your legal rights might help. It's a last recourse IMO but you appear to have been treated badly.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:16 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Twitter and Facebook can be useful in these situations...


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:23 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I can't be bothered with the heartache, some of the guys there are nice lads and fellow riders. They're just working within Giants system - I can't be bothered with giving them abuse or making their lives difficult by getting onto the manager. I can get hold of the managers number and email through a friend but my feeling is that it will needlessly blow back on some of the grunts and they still won't be able to do much for me.

So just be warned, don't do business with them. Fork has gone to TF tuned and it's getting the rather blingy FAST upgrade, so I won't be able to warranty it now anyway.

I was so wound up the other day though, that if they had given me a suitable demo bike I'd have probably wrapped it round a tree or cased a double on purpose to see if I could cave their demo bike in for them.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:26 pm
Posts: 98
Free Member
 

Are you sure it's not the bike shop messing you around?
I find Giant's Warranty department very good to deal with.
Sram tech centre (fishers) can be an arse to deal with though!
Max


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:31 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

It's Fishers isn't it. Long turn around times at the moment, the shop has definitely sold off all their Anthem/Reign demo bikes as it's the right time of the year for them to have done so. They offered me an XC 29er but - well, not suitable for Antur Stiniogs black run is it?

As long as a few fellow riders on here are warned then I'm happy, I'm done with it - not worth having to purchase blood pressure meds for.

Do me a favour, if anyone posts on here considering the purchase of a Giant - just point them to this thread.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:35 pm
Posts: 43345
Full Member
 

What shop did you buy it from? It's their responsibility, not Giants or Fishers (especially not Fishers - they aren't even in the supply chain)


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:40 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

The Giant owned store at Rutland Water, they were adamant that it was Fishers issue (it was last time as well). Explained that they couldn't get a new fork in for me as Giant didn't stock spare forks.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:42 pm
Posts: 43345
Full Member
 

Yeah, but [i]someone[/i] must stock a compatible fork?


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:43 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

It's a custom 46mm offset fork, Giant won't replace them with any 42mm fork. 46mm offsets are a limited production run for Giant and yet they don't carry any spares.

The ****ing geniuses.

I was speaking to a technician at evans cycles the other day, they set up their own warranty and service centre for forks as Fishers were so unbelievably shit.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:44 pm
Posts: 43345
Full Member
 

* slaps forehead *


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:45 pm
Posts: 13771
Free Member
 

They presumably could get hold of a standard fork and swap the lowers, though (or crown, wherever the offset is)


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:47 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Having dealt with Giant Rutland/Normanton last year, I feel your pain. Some of the lads in there are ok, and I can see them getting frustrated with how management deals with things. But at the end of the day, that's not the customer's issue. I think a lot of the problems are from the shop, rather than Giant themselves. Have you tried contacting them direct. Giant UK offices are near Leicester. Maybe write them a letter outlining all the shit you've had to deal with. Worth a punt.

Giant U.K. Ltd | Charnwood Edge, Syston Road, Cossington, LE7 4UZ

Also, couldn't they lend you one of the rentals at Giant Rutland?


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:49 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

They presumably could get hold of a standard fork and swap the lowers, though (or crown, wherever the offset is)

They could, but it's probably not in their standard operating procedures and so therefore "does not compute".

Couldn't they lend you one of the rentals?

They sold all of their suitable rentals before they got their new stock in 😀 Last time I got a rental/demo one, it barely worked anyway.

Besides, the fork is already in the post to TF tuned guys, but thanks for the help 🙂 I appreciate it!


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:50 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Besides, the fork is already in the post to TF tuned guys, but thanks for the help I appreciate it!

I'd write to Giant outlining all the issues, and tell them that you are so ****ed off with them you have resorted to paying a third party to sort it out. You might get something, you might get nothing (likely). But always worth a punt.

I'll even help with a template.

Dear Giant,

Why are you so shit? lolz

Tommy W


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 1:57 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I will write them a letter, I think I will do it on the type writer and in 18th century prose for extra lolz.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:01 pm
Posts: 58
Free Member
 

Sale of goods rights are all very well, but sometimes you have to fight for them. That can be stressful and time consuming !! Sounds like the Op just wants to ride his bike. Hence he's already sent the fork to TFT. It's probably what I'd do, along with not forgiving or forgetting !@@


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:06 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Precisely, I will just take solace in disparaging Giant for the rest of my life whenever a thread comes up mentioning them.

Not worth the loss of riding to get it done the right way.

If you guys wanted, we could keep this thread going for 100 pages and get it to the top of the google search returns? 😀 😈


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:08 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

[img] ?w=400&c=1[/img]


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:16 pm
Posts: 3351
Free Member
 

For balance, if I were in the same situation as the OP, I'd be really, really upset.

Sale Of Goods Act is your friend here, if the bike was bought via credit card then there's additional protection.

If the retailer doesn't want to help, then the distributer should be picking up the slack and dealing with it. At the very least, I'd argue that the bike wasn't fit for sale and thus a like for like replacement is justified.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:27 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Is Giant Rutland not just a Giant only extension of Rutland Cycles?

For balance, I bought a Giant road bike, no suspension issues (although my barse may say otherwise) 😉


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:31 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

For balance, if I were in the same situation as the OP, I'd be really, really upset.

Agreed. We are now at the point in any STW thread where we turn on the OP.

Tom. Stop being such a pussy and get Giant to meet their contractual obligations. If you need any backup, we are all certified internet lawyers with degrees (Google School of Law) in retail contracts.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:36 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

And miss out on a week off from London - riding with my brother and old man, something I haven't done in a decade?

You don't know man, you weren't there etc etc etc....*keels into a foetal position and starts rocking back and forth muttering curses about the big smoke"


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:43 pm
Posts: 13771
Free Member
 

Just buy that Geometron and be done with it


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:45 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

****ers, all of them


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:50 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Just buy that Geometron and be done with it

I'm going on a spending splurge as soon as I have a new job. Interview on Friday so fingers crossed.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 2:56 pm
Posts: 569
Free Member
 

I bought a Giant Reign 3 years ago and had an issue with the rear shock loosing pressure due to the damper being borked,was sent back to fishers/seam and was back in 2-3 weeks and not really had any other issues,That being said my frame is probably the only stock part on the bike left
Triggers broom Reign


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 3:03 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

My Reign arrived from Germany last September with the Pikes sucked down into their travel and no amount of tricks could get them to return to full travel. I sent them back via LBS and Fishers sent me an upgrade replacement from RS to RCT3s in 4 days.
Sorry to hear your experience is not as good.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 3:06 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Oh I got an RCT3 back instead of an RC as well.

It just didn't have oil in the lowers or a working RCT3 cartridge.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 3:23 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

It just didn't have oil in the lowers or a working RCT3 cartridge.

You're just being picky now.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 3:27 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Does he still need a cuddle?


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 4:43 pm
Posts: 5139
Full Member
 

Jeez, you have had some bobbins service. Can you hire a different bike for a week? If you can , then you can go back to the shop with the bike and be a noisy ****t until they agree to your refund


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 6:34 pm
Posts: 8527
Free Member
 

Na, don't believe you, these kind of things only happen to direct sales companies, lovely cuddly brands are soooo amazing.....


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 6:57 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I should add Giant WGAF if you kicked off on social media. Rutland Cycles might, but Giant are big enough to not give a flying ****.


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 7:35 pm
Posts: 119
Free Member
 

I thought it was the shop your contract was with and not giant / sram. Although both seem poor with there service.
A lot of brand only shops are not owned by the brand but not sure with this store?


 
Posted : 25/07/2016 10:23 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Its a sad state of affairs, no one gives a toss about customer service anymore 🙁


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 12:29 am
 hora
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

You're very patient. Especially if they sent back dubious forks. You could argue if they aren't working right and fail during a rude at the wrong point. Far fetched? When I read '5 weeks'+ I don't think the company cares about its customers. Only sales.


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 5:36 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

OP - sorry to hear of your issues, agree with previous comments, get on Social Media and make a fuss... As the biggest bike manufacturer globally they must have employees to help expedite issues and keep bad social media feedback to a minimum? (You'd imagine anyway!). Good luck...


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 6:34 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

My experience with Cannondale is the local(ish) lot were useless but the European HQ were a lot better. Okay, that's a relative term as I can buy a full bike for the crash replacement frame cost I was offered but at least they offered something.


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 7:09 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

So your saying

You would rather have a blow job from giant and fisher's than address the problem

I don't think even if they sent someone from each organisation to provide this service it will get your forks fixed.


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 7:54 am
Posts: 13771
Free Member
 

To be hones,t I think the main issue here is that you're giving the Giant shop where you bought the bike something of a bye. However nice those folks are, it's them that need to be making your case. You need the manager of that store sorting this out.


 
Posted : 26/07/2016 8:20 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I reckon I should bookmark this thread for all the times people bang on about how LBSeseses are so wonderful.


 
Posted : 28/07/2016 8:15 pm
Posts: 17
Free Member
 

I reckon I should bookmark this thread for all the times people bang on about how LBSeseses are so wonderful.

Most of mine are, and are up front with customers, go as far as they can etc. the problems generally come when manufacturers start speccing unique parts.
There appears to be no other fork at the moment so needs something a bit special sorting out.
Mate had a Spec with the stupid yolk that was trashing CC shocks after 5 swaps they got him a RS instead all much happier. The same guy then found out that the wheel was specced with a stupid obscure number of spokes rendering the hub nearly useless unless you continued to buy the cheese wheels.
Also how would buying the same bike from Dave's Discount Internet Bike Shed have helped the OP?


 
Posted : 29/07/2016 4:17 am

6 DAYS LEFT
We are currently at 95% of our target!