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I doubt many on here would defend either attacking folk or killing stuff for fun.
Well, attacking people in the street is because you disagree with their views is illegal, riding your bike along the road slowly, isn't.
Perhaps car drivers should be allowed to get out and beat up people at critical mass/reclaim the streets, because they committed the heinous crime of getting in their way?
or are we going to let people start attacking others every time they do something that they think should be illegal? Doesn't bode well for abortion doctors, does it?
Do you think the words 'Calm down dear' were heard?
I was going to move there. Looks rough. I'll stay in Buttershaw.
I dunno, I felt like thumping the bloke on the bike as well after watching the first half of that vid.
+1
If it'd been in one of the following cars I'd have got out for a chat with him. I wouldn't have just waded in with the fists flying but there are plenty of people who will in those circumstances.
Would have been funnier if he'd ****ed her out cold.
Who wan't to bet the nutters in the car who anthropomorphize animals to such an extent they spend their nights crying for foxes....knew he was part of the hunt and were stalking the old man in an attempt to frighten him.
The animal rights twunts do it to scientific researchers and their families, one accosted me once outside a laboratory and had the audacity to push me. I flattened the pricks nose across his face.
bwaarp...heard of "tarring them all with the same brush"?
It's what thick people do.
Full video shows it a bit different...
Still think it is hilarous how she has to step back into a (bad) stance raise a (bad) guard before she performs a (bad) kick.
Whoever taught her that should be ashamed.
I flattened the pricks nose across his face
Yes I'm sure you did....given how hard/stupid you sound....
As for the old bloke on the bike, the second video shows the situation in a completely different light. I think someone needed to have a word ...
It's what thick people do.
Except when 90 percent of animal rights activists are actually mentally disordered twunts.
They tar everyone else with the same brush, apparently torturing mice to save children with leukaemia makes you as bad as a teenager who sets horses on fire for fun and later goes on to become an axe murderer.
In the grand scheme of things.... considering there are wars, famines, massive environmental degradation etc etc.... what kind of a person gives a hoot about and dedicates their lives to saving foxes?
Well done, Sir!
Stereotyping a political group is not the same stereotyping a race, cynic-al.
Are you saying that anarchists are anything but deluded idiots? Or should I respect their movement as a whole because one or two of them are nice?
bwaarp I'd say you should just stop being prejudiced and thick.
My guess is you won't, and beyond the above, I am not biting.
Hope your mummy tucks you up nice tonight.
I'd say you should stop being such a cry baby in response to what was a bit of a troll.
Ah, the "Edinburgh Defence".
Well done, once again!
"I would guess that the view that human beings matter to other human beings more than animals do is, to say the least, widespread. At any rate, I wish to defend speciesism. - Jeffrey Allan Grey
Anyway put your handbags away girls, do we know if any of the protagonists have been found yet?
Aw, why not sign in as your alter ego and join in?
There is no Ampney Coln... nowhere has that place name - it's a ward for local government. Also, the B4425 isn't that narrow
Pedant mode off...
Is the mans life on the bike (could have quite easily fallen off and given himself a fatal head injury) worth more than the drivers being held up and or the saving the foxes lives that the whackos in the car were so intent on doing.
See, animal rights misanthropy. They enjoyed seeing the man assaulted because he's connected to the hunt. His life is of less value to them than heroically saving a smelly ginger dog. Leading to my main point which is that they are sick in the head.
And I reserve my right to be a totally closed minded jerk towards these people because humanity spent the past 10,000 years+ being natures bitch. Where were our rights when a sabre tooth decided to eat us? Where were our rights when hyenas came in the night and stole children? Where were our rights when we suffered the bubonic plague? Where were our rights when the environment decided to crap our on us and ruin out crops leading our brothers to starve to death?
What moral obligations do we hold to those animals/environmental factors that hold no moral obligations to us? The only moral obligation we have is preserving the planet and it's ecosystem is to support humanity at a sustainable level. That is it.
Surely the clever reaction (wiht hindsight of course) would have been to get out of the following vehicle jog on in front of the bike then walk very slowly til either the bike and cyclist fell over or crashed into the walker from behind.
Beat him at his own rather clever game.
Run in front of cyclist
Waggle hips
Watch cyclist ride into ditch/wall...
Youv'e all got it wrong ,I think he's cheated on her ,with her sister
Even with the full video, there's clearly some story missing: the old guy is trying to stop them getting past. That's either because he's trying to stop them as hunt monitors or because they provoked him and we've not seen that bit...
In that situation I reckon any car would roll down the windows and ask to pass and / or give a beep. Where is that in the video?! The fact that that section is missing leads me to think it did happen but the car occupants were a bit heavy handed with it and riled the guy.
@ traffic law experts:
What view would the rozzers take of the cyclist's actions? Can't be right to impede traffic and not let it pass?
Technically, careless cycling (due to him not showing consideration for other road users).
Practically, stop him for a minute, the cars drive past, tell him not to be an arse, leave it at that.
Rule 68 is "you MUST NOT ride in an inconsiderate manner".
TBF druid, I reckon he was winning a Sportiv at the time.
I wonder how many cyclists never break that law?
Thanks everyone.. This thread has given me a right good chuckle. 😀
Rule 168
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. [b]Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass.[/b]
Could be all sort of fun and games with that one!
MIght get taken as a personal attack.
I thought it was against the law to obstruct the highway?
Also, rule 68 is "Rides are to be measured by quality, not quantity." Isn't it?
It still does not excuse assault. Kicking and punching someone is all well and good if you get assaulted first, doing so when she had other options such as blocking him and bringing him to a stop in a controlled fashion is quite frankly disgusting.
You should never find yourself hating someone so much you are willing to risk their life over something as trivial as this.
They should both get community service, with the bird getting considerably more for assault.
*whoosh*
*whoosh*
Go on? Is this because of tangling with an animal rights protester outside a lab I was getting work experience with? I know a lot of friends who research in Oxbridge who get death threats from animal rights types, this bloke was masked. Surrounded by his mates. Perfectly within my right to defend myself.
I know students who have been stalked to and from their homes at night by these people.
PETA et al are nothing more than terrorist organizations.
🙄
Zulu-Eleven - MemberSays it all about the Anti hunt mob really.
Violent thugs.
Posted 48 minutes ago # Report-Post
wwaswas - Membererrm, except she wasn't with the anti-hunt mob?
still, don't let that worry you unduly.
SO A NEW VIDEO IS RELEASED BY SAID ANTI'S, EDITED TO SUIT THERE VIEWS AND SHOCK HORROR A 'RANDOM' GETS OUT AND ATTACKS THE CYCLIST...YOU LOT NOW DO A COMPLETE U TURN, YOU PEOPLE ARE SO FICKLE, IN YOUR MINDS AN ASSAULT ON A CYCLIST IS MORE PALLETABLE THAN PEOPLE TAKING PART IN A LEGAL SPORT
IF YOU DONT LIKE COUNTRY PURSUITS GET BACK IN YOUR AUDI'S, SELL YOUR SECOND HOME AND GET BACK TO SUBURBIA WHERE ITS SAFE.
rant over, carry on
IF YOU DONT LIKE COUNTRY PURSUITS GET BACK IN YOUR AUDI'S, SELL YOUR SECOND HOME AND GET BACK TO SUBURBIA WHERE ITS SAFE.
No need to shout.
I like country pursuits and I expect most people on this forum also do, given that they are mountain bikers, and ride IN THE COUNTRY. What I do not like is the killing of animals for other peoples pleasure.
I also live in the country and have notices more Audis here than in the city that I lived in until a few years ago. Although, I am not really sure what cars have to do with it.
that was a bit shouty wasnt it...sorry
so come on then...who wouldnt mind there grandad being beaten up over people riding horses round a field chasing a wooly jumper with fox pee on it.
As the days of packs of hounds chasing foxes is legally over (if this isnt the law please ignore my ignorance)
What I do not like is the killing of animals for other peoples pleasure.
however if they are doing it as a valid vermin control method (again legal) this is ok?
Must remember other people have different opinions to me and i must respect them. Sorry mr sinatra
The law is badly written and widely flouted. Hunts still carry on as much as ever and its still nothing to do with killing vermin although that is often the excuse. Its all about killing things for fun.
well what happens when lorry drivers have a go slow on the motorway, are they allowed to do that? Are we allowed to drag them out of their cabs and give them a good shoeing for slowing us down?Can't be right to impede traffic and not let it pass?
As v666 says it's an assault on a human being, he may have wound them up and yes I'd have found it damned annoying too but you can't go round smacking people cause they annoy you.
v666ern - I wasn't condoning ninja bird attacking wellie man just saying that to post she was with the hunt monitors and ergo: all hunt monitors are blood thirsty maniacs was incorrect.
still don't let that get in the way of a good shout 😉
TBF tj I think it's about charging round the countryside having a laugh with your mates....
....that just also happens to have a ripping fwuffy animals to bits as a finale.
The vermin control excuse is just taking the piss tho.
wwaswas 😉
couldnt agree moreThe law is badly written and widely flouted
The vermin control excuse is just taking the piss tho
how would you like the vermin to be controlled, do we just have none to see what happens...as a shotgun license holder, which i do as sport, i can tell you that vermin control costs a hell of a lot and it goes on unnoticed..without it the county would be a lot different
dressing up in red jackets and having a big game of "catch me if you can" with the foxes isn't about vermin control is it? I'm no expert I've no idea if foxes need to be controlled and if they do what the most humane way of dealing with them is. I can however see through a flimsy excuse.
well if you need a dozen horse and riders and a pack of dogs yes costs will add up, those diddy trumpet mustn't be cheapi can tell you that vermin control costs a hell of a lot
oooh, how topical;
[url= http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/9705927.Guilty__three_convicted_of_illegal_fox_hunting/ ]http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/9705927.Guilty__three_convicted_of_illegal_fox_hunting/[/url]
the bloke with the nose flute looks a bit odd.
Its all about killing things for fun.
Unless you're a strict vegan, please see previous comments about eating meat.
Ta! 🙂
i can tell you that vermin control costs a hell of a lot
sorry my point was that if mr and mrs hamilton-boyce the third and chums arent controlling fox numbers, then who is...if it gets passed onto shooting bodies how long til shooting is banned...then from there whose going to pick up the tab...cos mr tax payer would rightly rather have a nurse than vermin control?
I don't think people necessarily have a problem with controlling populations of foxes/rats/ants or whatever.
I think what a lot of people do find odd/objectionable is treating the killing of creatures as a fun day out for all the family.
Also, when the people doing it are challenged and act a bit baffled when asked 'Hang on isn't there a better way we coudl do this in the 21st century?'. I really don't see that 'just because we always have' is any reason to carry on with a particular activity.
Also, when the people doing it are challenged and act a bit baffled when asked 'Hang on isn't there a better way we coudl do this in the 21st century?'. I really don't see that 'just because we always have' is any reason to carry on with a particular activity.
+1 this, but until someone suggests a cost effective way, i dont see the point of hunt sabs following hunts and becoming confrontational and aggressive to other people
be nice everyone, have a hug!
i dont see the point of hunt sabs following hunts and becoming confrontational and aggressive to other people
They do. They get to have a fight. Sometimes they even get to have real fun (all in the name of animal welfare, of course) like spraying mace in a horse's face, or cutting the ears of foxhounds, no need for any proper surgery or anasthetic obviously, to disguise the tattoo makring in there. Vile little scrotes.
CaptainFlashheart - Memberi dont see the point of hunt sabs following hunts and becoming confrontational and aggressive to other people
They do. They get to have a fight. Sometimes they even get to have real fun (all in the name of animal welfare, of course) like spraying mace in a horse's face, or cutting the ears of foxhounds, no need for any proper surgery or anasthetic obviously, to disguise the tattoo makring in there. Vile little scrotes.
I think the point is that Police don't have resources to follow hunts so the AR lot do it.
I don't believe all AR folk behave as above - what's your evidence? OR is it just anecdote?
v666...
Is that "Legally Over" like the packs of hounds that meet twice a week to "Legally" chase deer on the Quantocks???
[i]I think the point is that Police don't have resources to follow hunts so the AR lot do it.[/i]
So, you're saying she was a vigilante then?
police won't do anything about it, so we'll take it into our own hands, and it doesn't matter what laws we break, cause its all for the poor ickle foxie woxies innit 😥
As the days of packs of hounds chasing foxes is legally over
Is that "Legally Over" like the packs of hounds that meet twice a week to "Legally" chase deer on the Quantocks???
that im definately not an expert on...anyone else have knowledge..?
I don't believe all AR folk behave as above - what's your evidence? OR is it just anecdote?
i've seen plenty of video evidence that this has happened, they may not be all d1cks though...just like not all cyclists are d1cks 🙂
I don't think people necessarily have a problem with controlling populations of foxes/rats/ants or whatever.I think what a lot of people do find odd/objectionable is treating the killing of creatures as a fun day out for all the family.
Also, when the people doing it are challenged and act a bit baffled when asked 'Hang on isn't there a better way we coudl do this in the 21st century?'. I really don't see that 'just because we always have' is any reason to carry on with a particular activity.
I agree with this.
If the AR are behaving as CFH says, they're no better than the nob end foxhunters.
I think what a lot of people do find odd/objectionable is treating the killing of creatures as a fun day out for all the family.
thats an argument that has nothing whatsoever to do with the cruelty argument - if it causes pain/suffering then it causes no more, or less pain and suffering whether there are two people there, or fifty - for what its worth, most of the "real" pest control hunting was done on weekdays without many followers, hounds flushing to guns and terrier work for example.
Also, when the people doing it are challenged and act a bit baffled when asked 'Hang on isn't there a better way we coudl do this in the 21st century?'. I really don't see that 'just because we always have' is any reason to carry on with a particular activity.
The Burns report accepted that in upland areas hunting was the most effective and least cruel option, that in those areas hunts were responsible for up to 70% of the fox tally, and concluded a ban would have a negative impact on fox welfare in upland areas - the politico's chose to ignore this fact when they drafted the law, as it was about politics, not animal welfare.
I recently read about "people" who go on holiday to places like Canada so that they can shoot bears. For fun. What sort of ****ing degenerate uses their precious holiday time, pays money and then [i]enjoys[/i] shooting a bear?
****ing shameful it is.
Karma will even up with these pricks eventually.
wrecker, people with too much money 🙄
anyway back to the topic at hand, he wasnt wearing a helmet so was he asking for it...good job he never went through a red light either
Would a better tactic have been to walk in front of the cyclist thus impeding his view, sort of like live russian dolls on the road?
Maybe if a fox had shot out from the hedgerow and knocked him off the bike like that antelope/mtber incident.
Maybe if a fox had shot out from the hedgerow and knocked him off the bike like that antelope/mtber incident.
😆
wrecker, people with too much money
Does money turn people into ****s?
Does money turn people into ****s?
Not always - some are born that way....
The Burns report accepted that in upland areas hunting was the most effective and least cruel option
They seem to manage without them up here in the Highlands - the stalkers/gamekeepers/farmers and so on just go out lamping at night and shoot them.
...and who employs the gamekeepers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
...who sells the stalking to the shooters, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
...who leases the land to the farmers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
who is also the person who goes big game hunting, and puts it all back into our lovely economy...these people are what keeps it all turning, whether we like it or not
and i bet they started off as bankers!
My nearest toff is that exact person, ex hong kong judge, bought an estate turned it into a viable business created loads of jobs and made the village a lovely place to be again
who is also the person who goes big game hunting, and puts it all back into our lovely economy...these people are what keeps it all turning, whether we like it or not
Dear god, you are broaching that kind of viewpoint on STW. You'd best be wearing a flame suit, it's a lefty/socialist haven here!
its ok, i commuted on my single speed today with my converse 😳
beside's its just an opinion, i thought thats what the net was for so nobodies can spew mindless vomit... 😆
...and who employs the gamekeepers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
...who sells the stalking to the shooters, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
...who leases the land to the farmers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
And when hunting is banned, the toff is still going to need the pests controlled is he not?
Bears aren't "game"; they're Bears.
...and who employs the gamekeepers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
Round here, that'll be the rich foreigners who don't go fox hunting.
...who sells the stalking to the shooters, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
The rich foreigner who doesn't go fox hunting.
...who leases the land to the farmers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
The National Trust for Scotland. Who don't run fox hunts.
That aside, I was simply pointing out that round here, there are no fox hunts, and they are successfully controlled by shooting them with rifles.
And when hunting is banned, the toff is still going to need the pests controlled is he not?
there going to ban hunting..? hasnt that got to get passed somewhere...house of toff's have a say dont they... 🙄 sure i read somewhere before about them trying to ban that toff sport...
Bears aren't "game"; they're Bears
in this country...elsewhere they are game and part of an economy 😕
That cyclist was being deliberately antagonistic - was lucky that just a woman (with a nice butt) got out and assaulted him.
Whoa betide a natural resource like big game being a valuable product for marginal communities, eh!
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[i]im just saying it does bring an income to those areas.[/i]
Blood diamonds bring an income. It doesn't necessarily make them right...
Blood diamonds bring an income. It doesn't necessarily make them right...
true, but a lot of this is down to the person's POV, for instance if you'd worn a pink shirt and ate prawn sandwiches at a football match in the 70's people may not have been that welcoming either 😳
*thinks his own simile is rubbish*
can someone point me back to where we were going with this...
Shes got a nice ass 8)
can someone point me back to where we were going with this...
Erm. No.
HTH.
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