[Closed] Fat Bike Wheelset Options

winstanleys were selling off rollin darryl rims for £75 each (half price)

I have an On-One Fatty. The only issue that I have with the stock wheels was getting tires to seat properly, especially tubeless. IMO, this is due to the narrow width of the bead seat and the small radius of its edge which makes it hard for the tire beads to move from the groove in the center of the rim to the seated position when inflating.

I used the stock wheels for a good 2 years with the above issues, then bought a set of their 29er wheels with Fatty hubs and had them rebuilt with 80mm Sun Mulefut rims and new spokes. The bead lock on these is fantastic! Easy tubeless setup w/their rim tape.

I've had no issues at all w/my On-One hubs though some other have.

Just be sure to get a front hub with the correct rotor spacing. IIRC, the Fatty uses rear rotor offset.

winstanleys were selling off rollin darryl rims for £75 each (half price)

DO you have a link?

For some reason I'm having problems getting the winstanleys site to load 🙁

http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/40836/Surly_Rolling_Darryl_Rim

I've got rolling daryls and they aren't light. Talk to Slam69,they will put you right.

X2 for Slam69

Ygm

Keep your eyes peeled on ebay and other fat bike selling pages, I managed to pick up some awesome second hand wheels for silly prices.
OO Fatty wheels can be cheaper because of their stupid sizing.

[quote> http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/40836/Surly_Rolling_Darryl_Rim

Thanks, it seems to be working now. 🙂

I'm also looking for some fat rims and right now I'm torn between Mulefut's and DT Swiss BR710's, if the Surly rims work well tubeless then I may go for them.

Freeborn had some good deals on BR710's

From a noob's perspective people seem to get excited about that rolling darryl discount because it's a big discount on an old favourite, but I don't think they'd get much attention if they came out today at that price tbh.

Mulefuts look good value as a wheelset but they're sold out most places. Seems like you can build a wheelset out of DT rims and hubs cheaper than you can buy the DT wheelset?

There's also the On-One Emmental rims/wheelset, not tried them but I presume they were picked to solve some issues wit the first rims.

The problems with the on one rims tape can be solved with electrical tape though, just build up the rim next to the bead seat to create a nice big flat area for the tyre to move across. Looks heavy while you're wrapping whole rolls of electrical tape to each side, but it's not too bad when you consider it allows you to run tubeless with just a single layer of tape over the rest of the rim and no need for a split tube which saves ~150g.

TBH, I'm finding it hard to look past chinese carbon rims, I don't think I've managed to bottom my rims out yet so they must get a fairly easy life compared to on a normal bike.

thisisnotaspoon - Member

There's also the On-One Emmental rims/wheelset, not tried them but I presume they were picked to solve some issues wit the first rims.

Don't know about the hubs but the rims were picked because they're cheap- they're the same as are now turning up as OE on most cheap fat bikes. Got them on my Dune, they're alright tbh. Heavy, not that well finished but they work and I think I've got them working tubeless now with foam and a split tube. They're not going to be an upgrade for anything much unless you're current wheels are useless, but it seems like a good price if you just want cheap wheels.

BRI-72 mailed you back.

Cheers all.

Northwind,

Yea, I thought they looked familiar. Although for the price On-One are selling wheelsets for they're still good value. I'm just considering them as a cheap way to upgrade to a bluto, as long as the hubs are OK I'd probably view the rims as a stand in until I bought some carbon ones to replace them.

what's the difference between a BR710 & a BR2250 ?

The 710 is the rim but the 2250 is the wheel set I believe. German sites have the rims for about a hundred I believe.

i'll have a pair of mulefoots for sale soon, take offs from new bike

they are apparently better tubeless than darryls

Freeborn had some good deals on BR710's

They are the same rim as the BR2250, but the BR2250 is sold as a wheelset.

I didn't consider the Carbon option, weight wise they seem to be pretty similar to the BR710, but I imagine they would probably take more punishment over the BR710's because they are carbon?

BR710's every time. shop around including europe for the best prices.
They are so close in weight I wouldn't even look at carbon unless you just wanted to spend 2 or 3 times more on a rim and want to look flash.

Br710s are lighter than the Br2250s. I thought they were the same but they are not, I have 90mm Nexties. 😀

I have br710's built onto hope fatsno hubs by slam69! Amazing wheelset, really chuffed with them!

BR710's every time. shop around including europe for the best prices.
They are so close in weight I wouldn't even look at carbon unless you just wanted to spend 2 or 3 times more on a rim and want to look flash.

I'm feeling some irresistable Gear Aquisition Syndrome... The BR710s really look the business tbh, it's hard to look at anything else. I like carbon rims but they seem uncompetitive and I don't see anything else metal to compete... Am I missing anything?

How about hubs? Lots of folks recommend the Fatsno but I'm not very convinced, they're heavier and more expensive than the DT bigride 350s? I've not used 350s before but they're a close relation of the 240 which is a better hub than a pro 2.

And as a random aside... What's the deal with fatbike wheelbuilding? Usually I use icycles because Steve can build anything but I don't suppose he's had many fatbike wheels to do...

My mate builds wheels and he's desperate to have a go at some fat rims! If I bought some, I'd probably 'give away' all the weight saving by buying a bluto as well. That would leave me with the frame and saddle as the only original parts.... My experience of DT350 hubs on the Aeris isn't great. Lovely hubs but dead bearings in the rear in six months and a right PITA to change.

Built three pairs of FB wheels on Robsson and Surly rims all on Fatso hubs. They are the easiest rim to build as they are so rigid that it's very difficult to build out of lateral true, so I found all I needed to do was ensure the radial true was correct and the spokes all even tension.

Spoke length calculation is a bit more complicated due to the offset of rim spoke holes, but I calculated the affect by subtracting the rim offset from the hub flange width so it was cancelled out. As with all builds best to measure the rim ERD when you have the rim in your hands

Not all jigs will take a 170 or 190 hubs but I have a wheel pro home built jig, so that was easy to widen.

Have a look at [url= http://www.robsson.de/en/wide-rims/cut-out-rims/ ]robsson rims[/url] too. A little bit heavier than DT at 780g but very stiff. Nice cut outs and awesome colours too, and about half the price!

Shame you can't get the on-one mk2 hubs on their own to build with your own rims as they look pretty good - easy to service with a freehub and bearing arrangement similar to hope.

I'm thinking of building some decent budget wheels on the robsson rims but undecided on the hubs still - any other robust, easy to maintain options that are cheaper than hope?

I have older Robssons that I had to drill out and they are good rims, but their profile doesn't make tubeless very easy.

They are so close in weight I wouldn't even look at carbon unless you just wanted to spend 2 or 3 times more on a rim and want to look flash.

True, but they ard still arround the £1/g lighter mark over the DT, so not outrageoisly expensive, and no need for rim tape to seal the cutouts. And a big thick double wall rim is going to go up tubeless easier and be stiffer even if it is only marginal over a good alloy rim.

"... and no need for rim tape to seal the cutouts."

won't you still need some kind of tape to seal the nipple access holes on the inner skin?
gqbtw

Well I get away with a couple of layers of electrical tape in normal wheels, which compared to the heavy tape required to cover cutout holes is nothing. You could even use nipple plugs.

It's probably enough to make 100g or more difference per wheel i'd imagine, which even on a fatbike isn't to be sniffed at.

Been running Rolling Darylls for 18 months and i ride the fatbike very enthusiastically - they've taken a hell of a beating but have been great

There are a couple of flat spots - but nothing bad

They also convert to tubeless very easily

Fully recommended 🙂

For info, I've had DT710s on order for 2 months now and still no sign of them turning up. Seems that DT Swiss have changed from Silverfish to Madison as their distributor and that this has completely disrupted the supply chain.

Madison less than helpful and the date on the computer keeps getting put back month-by-month with staff no idea if that date is achievable.

halo tundra rims and the pre built wheel sets are well worth a look

I bought the original tundras that were milled out after being anodised, the new ones are powder coated afterwards and look great

Hope hubs are my choice for the simple reason spare parts are cheap / easy to get, no waiting on fancy DT Swiss bits
I loved my old DT Swiss 240 hub on the spesh with the ring drive, but for fatbike stuff, simple / easy / cheap always wins

Hth

For general riding, no need to go greater than 65-70mm rim width IMO - you only need wider rims for sand / snow and where you're running really low pressures. I've been running 65mm carbon rims with both 4" and 5" tyres - the narrower rim is lighter and better protected against rim strike. Also make sure rims work well tubeless - makes a significant difference to rolling resistance with good tyres, as well as reduced punctures.

dab - Member

halo tundra rims and the pre built wheel sets are well worth a look

It's the same basic rim as the cheap ones in my Dune, i think- just with a different shaped cutout and marginally lighter. Not a bad rim if so but I wouldn't buy 'em from choice. Not for £60 anyway!

dufusdip - Member

For info, I've had DT710s on order for 2 months now and still no sign of them turning up. Seems that DT Swiss have changed from Silverfish to Madison as their distributor and that this has completely disrupted the supply chain.

I got mine from germany earlier this month, worth trying if you're still waiting.

dab - Member

Hope hubs are my choice for the simple reason spare parts are cheap / easy to get, no waiting on fancy DT Swiss bits

What parts do you ever expect to be waiting on though? The BR hub is effectively a fat DT 240- it has lower spec bearings and less front hub adaptor options but then, when will you ever want anything apart from a 15mm front?

I've got a pair of take off mule foot rims 85mm removed from cannonade caad fat

£175 the pair posted (£115 each cheapest price i could find)