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Looking at new tyres for the Puffin fatbike. Curently has a 27tpi Nate up front (think tractor tyre) and a 120tpi knard at the back (not the best grip).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>
Looking at a pair of surly Ednas as they seem to get good feedback. Also seen jumbo Jim's at a good price and I know people.who run them all year. The bike will be used in winter so any opinions on these two tyres?
Any other recommendations?
Also looking for a rim that will take a tubeless setup as the robbson rims aren't the best for this. Anything that works well?
Many thanks.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>
I've only been happy with Bontrager Hodags.
Tried nates, floaters and knards.
Last winter I was running 4.8 Minions front and rear . Found these to offer better grip than the JJ in the really deep and sloppy stuff. Only down side was slightly more self steer at low pressures.
JJ for the rest of the year.
JJ's summer, Maxis FBF / FBR winter plus they are tubeless ready... and a reasonable price.
For your rim question.. tried Fatty Strippers... failing that there is a nice set of hope and Kuroshino carbon rims on the UK fatbike buy sell page...
Thanks for the replies. I've tried the split tube method but would fatty strippers be better? Where can I get them in the UK?
Cheers.
I bought my Puffin second hand and it came with 45Nrth Husker Dus. Fine for summer, not so for slop or for snow. After a bit of asking around I went for 45Nrth Vanhelgas, not cheap (at £125 per end!) but given the distances I do on the bike they'll last me years. They are classed as 4.0" but they seem much bigger than the 3.8" Nates on my wife's fat bike.
Rim? I've Sun Ringle Mulefuts, 80mm internal rim width. Certainly work tubeless for me.
Going for a higher TPI casing on a tyre helps improve suppleness and will reduce rolling resistance so worth paying extra IMO. On the basis of the number of times I've seen people crash due to JJs and roots, I'd avoid them except for summer use. Having had my fat bike for 4 years, I'm now having to consider replacing my 'summer' HuDu tyres as there's not much tread left - my Dillinger 5 'winter' tyres have a lot more life left in them - on the basis of how long they last, worth paying for the best you can afford.
Looking for fast rolling and grippy so high tpi the way to go. Are Edna's at 60tpi high enough?
Can't find the fatty strippers anywhere.
Sun Ringle Mulefuts
+1. Bead locks are fantastic. Need a valve, rim strip, and tape to set up tubeless.
http://fattystripper.com so you don’t have the embarrassing google search history.
They arrive quickly.
A vote for mulefats being a very user friendly rim.
My hodogs are wearing out and I might just go for the same again. It’s only dry or packed snow here so probably a different requirement.
I have just stumped up for some Nextie carbon rims. Will see how they compared, lots on good feedback for tubeless online for them.
All of the 120 tpi tyres I’ve used have self steered worse than my 60 tpi Bontragers.
There’s not much tread on a Knard and they were the comfiest but also the worst self steer. I can’t see how having a flexible sidewall can I benefit steering.
Has anyone tried the 27 and 120 Nates and confirm my theory?
I ran a FBF front, Ground Control rear for the last year but as its mainly a winter bike I'll fit the FBR this winter. Ground Controls are pretty good at coping in all but the worst out back and lapped up the snow.
My rims are DT Swiss BR710's using Fatty Strippers. Heard good things about Mulefats too.
Based on nothing more than seat of pants dyno.... I'm beginning to think that self steer is as much a function of pressure difference front and rear and it may be worse on 120tpi with more supple walls...
Thanks for strippers link. I saw that before but thought there might be a UK supplier. Will order from the states.
My Massey Ferguson spec 27tpi Nate's don't self steer. Maybe 60tpi is the sweet spot.
I also have a greater fat bike dilemma. Wanting to get some more wheels for the Puffin but also looking at 29+ for a change. It is a MK1 so not really enough room in the back. It's a lot to invest in new wheels so should I get a MK2, but it still has odd hub widths, or sell it and get a Wednesday with more standard spacing?
I've asked before but any more comparisons between a Wednesday and a Puffin out there? Don't want to get rid of a great riding bike and be left with a disappointing lump for the sake of some wheels.
Cheers.
I have tried Nate’s front and back, JJs front and back currently have an Edna front and Hodag rear which i find a good compromise of roll/grip for woody riding.
Not sure I will use the Edna/Hodag combo all winter- may need to go back to Nates if filthy.
I am looking to build a new tubeless wheelset but can’t find the Sun Mulefut 80 in 26 inch anywhere. I need a dual hole rim.
I use JJ all year round here in Cumbria. Best place to buy is here
https://www.bike-discount.de/en/fatbike-components/l-24
+1 for Sun Ringle Mulefut
Just set a front wheel up tubelesss dead easy with a Minion DHF.
As it happens I wont be using the rear wheel (Fat front setup) if you are interested...?
26 x 80mm and brand new
Just bought a pair of 120tpi Minion 4.8" FBF's after several crashes on moist roots and floaters (to be fair the floaters are getting quite worn).
Tubeless'ed with bubble wrap (3x layers) under clingfilm (3x layers). But have ordered propper fatty strippers from the states ($9 postage and $20 for 4 seemed quite reasonable), apparently the trick when changing tyres is to deflate the tyre then gently remove it as a sort of clincher/tubular so the bead remains glued to the strip by the stans.
@ndthornton. Interested in the wheel but not sure what you mean by fat from setup. I'm looking for 170mm quick release.
Cheers.
Sorry - meant Fat Front setup
Its basically a bastardised on one Inbred 26 with Fat forks
The wheel looks to be 195 mm x 12 (not that sure about fat bike standards)
Could sell you the rim for cheep though - Basically I don't stand much hope of selling such a niche wheel.
I also have 2 brand new Bontrager Barbegazi 4.7in tyres