[Closed] Farm near Bradwell - anyone seen this one?

So ?

Ring the council if it upsets you.

PS Is there an Allis Chalmers there by any chance ?

If there is danger of pollution (say from fuel tanks) then it might be worth approaching SEPA.

Really embarrassing to the majority of farmers. Being clean and tidy is meant to be a key test of various environmental payments (I think) but its amazing how some places get away with being such a state, crap on the road, mountains of stinking black plastic, machinery rusting into the ground and so on. That said my neighbours back garden (here in London) is full of old fridges and prams etc gently rotting away and looking like crap. Even the back of my local Waitrose is full of junk so its defo not just farmers.

red thunder - i presume you struggle with reading?

Is their anything you can do about such shit in the countryside?

As an MTBer i enjoy the countryside, if i wanted to experience such shit i would live (wherever you do as it seems the norm to you??) in a shit hole and ride on the street.

Prefer that than the lovely cement works near by.Now that is shit in the countryside 😥

@racing_ralph

"Is their anything you can do about such shit in the countryside?"

Get rid of you ?

GTFU

You started it!

I suggested you ring the council. Having junk on your property is not a crime. Unless it's hazardous of course and affects the general public.

We have many farms around us that are dumps and many that are not. You cant make them all comply with some peoples utopian vision of the countryside.

have you thought of writing to the daily mail?
or perhaps the express?

do you have the address till Mr Smith? I remember your last effort about Polish immigrants eating our swans - fascinating

don't forget the carp they eat those too.

I'd love a farm with 30+ old cars on, spend all my lift just playing about in them 😆

When I am rich, I am going to buy a farm and store all manner of tat and junk on MOI laaaand. Probbly have some snarling alsatians and rottweilers too, keep the mtbers off it.

I'd quite like to concrete over [i]an entire field[/i] actually. Call it 'art'. Charge idiots loads of money to come and gawp at it.

i'd create energy by burning old tyres what I would get very cheaply from scrapyards and that.

I'd employ some Polish immigrants to run a Swan BBQ. Mmm, tasty Swan Burgers...

Racing Ralph would be more than welcome to come and visit, because that's the nice, caring, [i]loving [/i]kind of person I really am. 🙂

No sorry it's not very nice of me, I shouldn't do such nasty things. 🙁

I say well done RR for wanting to help clear places up. there are far too many scruffs in this land.

[i]there are far too many scruffs in this land[/i]

*guiltily polishes shoes on backs of trouser legs*

dobiejessmo - Member

Prefer that than the lovely cement works near by.Now that is shit in the countryside

er, i quite like the cement works...

honestly i really do.

unless you live in a mud hut, there's a fair chance that the convenience of your modern life is in some way reliant upon cement. it's got to come from somewhere, and some of it comes from Castleton.

it provides local people with jobs, and i mean real jobs, digging money out of the ground jobs.

the landscape that you see when you look around the hope valley is almost entirely man-made, evidence of human industry is everywhere.

(dry stone walls, roads, houses, forgotten mine workings, the almost total lack of trees, etc, etc.)

yay for the cement works!

Knock on his door and have a word.

In all things we should try and keep balance, the countryside should be as clean a place as possible, there are good points on both sides of the argument.

As for insulting each other, if you have to convince someone that their view point isn't of any value, simply because it comes from them ❓

Rather than on the merits of the argument, I doubt very much that any matter will be evaluated or a clear course of action if any is possible determined.

Ya dicks.

Why should the countryside be any tidier than the cities?

Its all endemic of the freedom with no responsibility rub

Why should the countryside be any tidier than the cities?

Exactly. I bet if i parked a load of rusty crappy broken cars in my garden in urban Sheffield the neighbours and council would have something to say about it.
+1 to racing ralph.

never said it should be \Will but as its an area of outstanding natural beauty and a national park it should be policed a little more rigorously. In teh city its more obvious if its shitty as the streets are just that - how many fields are their in sheffield that are 1km from a visible road?

I have a bit of a soft spot for run-down farms littered with rusting 1960s cars - it's mildly reassuring, like a real-life manifestation of the Dingles from Emmerdale or the Grundys on the Archers.

Is the Sheffield fields thing a trick question? And do they have invisible roads round there?

R-R reread my post, i was agreeing with you. Maybe i didn't make my point very well. Someone said the countryside shouldn't be held to any higher standard of cleanliness than the city. Quite aside from whether you agree with that or not (which i don't - think about why we have National parks. So parts of the country can remain nice while we ruin the rest), it's not the case anyway:

If you used your garden in a nice urban area as a tip, i'm sure you would get told to sort it out / prosecuted pretty quickly.

But evidently if you have loads of acres off a quiet road in the countryside (i.e. the farm the OP linked to ) apparently it's okay.

looks like two tanks near to the bend in to the farm when you zoom in, be careful. The start of a museum maybe?

fin - was aimed at pieface

Its the farmers land not yours. Is there a hazard to the public? are rights of way blocked?

A farm is a working place not a park.

With a farmer's income you'd have thought he/she would have no issue paying for all that junk to be carted away and...erm...stuck in a landfill somewhere else.

I just had a little laugh at this thread, when I first saw it I didn't click on the link as I "knew" which farm he was talking about, just looked at the link and I was thinking of the one slightly further south that's arguably more spread out and scruffy. I view it as a museum that's not been restored/built yet

Matt

TandemJeremy - Member
Its the farmers land not yours. Is there a hazard to the public? are rights of way blocked?

A farm is a working place not a park.

POSTED 6 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST

In answer to your questions - YES AND YES

I love the cement works,i work there and live 500 yds away.
If the old cars in the field offend you so much,don't go past?
You never know when you might need a part for an Austin seven?

What hazard to the public? You mean you cannot get down the rights of way any more at all?

really?

they are blocked in patches by rotting 3 piece suites and also rusing hulks of trailers etc.

If the ROW is blocked then you have a council officer to complain to who has the power to ensure that theya re not blocked.

You really mean you could not get past and had to turn back?

i mean we had to move OFF the ROW to get past/round things

its not blocked then

Farmer in not-bothered-about-keeping-ROW-clear shocker. Last time I had one of those I ended up stranded knee deep in silage with my 1 year old in a papoose on my back.

TJ in must-pick-up-on-the-minutiae-and-therefore-deflect-from-the-general-principle-at-stake shocker.

(sorry TJ, just feeling a little playful today. No offence intended)

TJ - whatever

still - I think ralph may be being ott here. The countryside is a workplace for some people and the farm is the farmers property. He does not have to keep it nice for tourists.

tj - if it looks shit, the cars are their in what looks like an illegal scrap yard, their is a separate issue re the row. you are, as usual, just pedantic cock for the hell of it. We will have to agree to disagree as you are OBVIOUSLY right and above scrutiny and i am wrong.

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TJ, I'm actually more on your side than you might think. As I've previously posted, if the junk isn't on this farmer's land it will just be in some other landfill.

Ralph, have a word with the ROWs officer and see if they can have a polite word with the farmer. Then just hope the farmer is not one of those types for whom this will get his back up and make things worse, not better. Personally if I could still ride through OK I'd just put up with it. Having grown up in the countryside I accept - rightly or wrongly - that rusting piles of junk are part of the farmyard.

Just a simple question, where is the right of way through the farm as I can not see one on the 1:25k map?

thepodge - Member
I say well done RR for wanting to help clear places up. there are far too many scruffs in this land.

For once I agree with Podge.

paul
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Racing ralph - no just pointing out another viewpoint

Illegal scrapyard? really? Under what law?

You want a farmer to tidy up his farm so it is pretty for you?

tj **** off and get a job in law or local gov as you seem to be the sort of cock that quotes from a list of rules and cannot deviate - call centre perhaps??

wanting to help clear places up

Did Ralph actually offer to help clear it up? Maybe the farmer is working all hours to make ends meet and has no time or energy to clear up. Maybe the farmer hates seeing that mess out of his kitchen window. Maybe he/she would love the offer of someone like Ralph to help clear up. Maybe we should get a group of us together to help clear areas up like this out of the goodness of our own heart. Podge? Big John? You in?

As usual we jump to all sorts of conclusions and maybe the first port of call should have been the farmer and/or ROWs officer rather than good ol' STW.

I believe the PDNP have powers to do something but I don't think they would serve any enforcement. RoW Officer couldn't do anything because the RoW is not affected according to the definitve map, and from what I can see from the photo, unless there has been a temporary diversion that puts it through the yard that would increase the risk of injury. This farmer does not clean his road on which he travels to access his fields, this he could be enforced to do by the Police, particularly as it is being used as a local diversion due to the current road works. But ultimately I don't think they would see it as a priority, in my opinion.

The OP said the rubbish was on the footpath in the woods, not through the farm yard. We all assumed it was the farmyard 'cos Ralph had put a big arrow on the map pointing to it.

Touched a raw nerve did I ralph? Try to see past this and just look at what your saying

How is having old cars on your land an illegal scrapyard?

All I am asking you to do is see it from the point of view of the countryside being a workplace and a livelihood for some people. Its not there for your recreation solely. Ranting on about illegal this and that when there is no law being brok3en is just silly.

RR - I agree with you. Working farm or not, there should not be crap all over the place.

Unfortunately you get lazy gits (there may be other mitigating circumstances of course) with no regard for others, or the environment, in the countryside just the same as you do in cities.

If it really bothers you, as it obviously does, then it's worth contacting the relevant authorites as suggested ^^ who can then take any action they see fit.

stilltortoise

yes, I'm in. I ride that area regular and as of next week I hope (no geographic pun intended) to be working about 2 mile from there so could easily pop along after my shift.
I do sometimes wonder why I come on here. you get 1 person looking to improve things and 10 trying to shoot them down. frankly its pathetic.

Good on ya podge
Ralph, let us know what the farmer has to say.

tj - as they are not classic cars and are rotting into the ground and also theya re strewn around i think its a fair assumption that he is letting people dump cars on his land

Too many people on here like to nit pick.

RR only really asked the question if there is anything that could be done about it?

I agree, too many farmers leave rubbish and junk around, normally self contained within their land but it doesn't need to be this way. Why is it also old cars, the farmer in our village has half a dozen cars scattered about, never to be used again. If they were in a scrap yard at least you could use the old parts rather than it wasting away in a field.

In answer to your question though I guess the council is the best option and go down the ROW route as they are likely to do something about it.

i agree with ralph, i hate messy farms with junk lying around. when your in europe the farms always seem tidy and im embarassed at the state of many around here.

i can't believe that OP caused such hyperbole, calm down

How is having old cars on your land an illegal scrapyard?

tj - as they are not classic cars and are rotting into the ground and also theya re strewn around i think its a fair assumption that he is letting people dump cars on his land

waste mangement facilities are required to be licenced, ask the EA/SEPA if the dump has one

pollution of water courses and groundwater is also illegal

but I think you'll find they CBA