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You come to a beautiful place and arrive at 2pm - don't expect to be able to park! Don't then park where ever you can on the soaking grass verges and churn them up! Don't park on the road where it is a clearway! Don't park in front of no parking signs! Don't say - well they need more parking spaces! Get your sorry arses out of bed earlier and ride then or use the park and ride, or even shock horror - park away and ride to the trail head!
The reason its a nice place to ride is lack of cars and natural beauty - stop being selfish ****ers and spoiling it!
Same goes for the Walkers who rocked up at 1pm on Sat and beeped me for not moving quick enough or the others who double-parked and blocked the whole lane just so they could reserve a potential spot.
Really pisses me off - get up and ride or use alternative transport to get to the trail head. even ****ing ride ffs!
Ladybower on a Bank Holiday weekend. Did you think this was a little known place that wouldn't attract the crowds. More fool you going there in the first place.
I was driving up to get a takeaway brew with my Gran - not stopping and saw all the sheep!
Not riding and no plans to stop was just going past!
Well said that man!! We have a beautiful valley near to where I live that used to be a secret spot for just the locals.... ith as now become a must visit place amongst the so called Brighton hippy crowd. The crap that they leave behind and their overall attitude to this beautiful spot is quite frankly upsetting and downright disgusting.
Some people are just scum!
Surely if everyone who arrived late, arrived earlier as you suggest, then the problem would still persist as you would have the same number of people arriving, they'd just be all arriving earlier and all at the same time.
What you need is more parking spaces or smaller cars. 😉
Gee I really hope your car is compact and bijou. I would LMFAO if it turns out you drive a monster Rangey or Disco or something. FWIW I imagine you don't.
Gee - i was driving past with no intention of stopping. I live and ride round ladybower and only ever park in designated spaces on quiet days. If i know it will be busy i go early, if i can't park legally i go to somewhere where i can park legally. It was amazing that in the pay and display there were spaces but people who have spent >£1k on a bike can't find £4 to park!!
If there are no spaces legally **** off home! More car parks would ruin an area of natural beauty, as do southerners!
Hang on, you're having a go at people (in essence) for driving to Ladybower with "Really pisses me off - get up and ride or use alternative transport to get to the trail head. even **** ride ffs!" and then you say "I live and ride around ladtbower and only ever park in designated spaces..."
Hypocritical?
You also said "trailhead"
Clown.
If there are no spaces legally **** off home! More car parks would ruin an area of natural beauty, as do southerners!
We have a similar problem with ignorant fools from t'up North down here in Devon. Try getting a life.
I blame whoever built those stupid dams, flooding hundreds of potential parking spaces.
Just think, if you had made sure you had some tea bags in, you could have saved yourself all this upset.
Teabagging? You dirty bear 😯
Get a life FFS.
If there are no spaces legally **** off home! More car parks would ruin an area of natural beauty, as do southerners!
Handbag! Mate, calm down, I thought I was being funny, certainly wasn't having a go.
The southerners remark is a bit out of order though. Good job I am originally from the peak area otherwise I might have taken offence.
get a life - what a shit comeback. The state of the area after a bank holiday is shocking. All i am asking is for some consideration of your environment and to park in designated spots - is that too much?
Area of beauty + ignorant tossers = spoiled ex area of beauty
geetee1972 - MemberIf there are no spaces legally **** off home! More car parks would ruin an area of natural beauty, as do southerners!
Handbag! Mate, calm down, I thought I was being funny, certainly wasn't having a go.
The southerners remark is a bit out of order though. Good job I am originally from the peak area otherwise I might have taken offence.
The southerners comment was tongue in cheek 🙂 the other one wasn't
BTW was not aimed at you specifically gee
Mountain bikers who cause errosion castigating drivers who spoil earth in what is a area created/moved by glaciers.
Look at the bigger picture- who cares? I saw ALOT of MX'ers in Pindale quarry on Saturday (alot with number plates as well)- let them play ffs. I even had a conversation with a lad who followed (was with them) walking up the road. I could tell he was sussing me out to make sure I wasn't the militant-type. I made sure he got the impression that I couldnt give a rats-ass. I was more miffed about the redsocks who told me not to ride Cavedale. Only when riders are reckless do I care.
Who cares? In 10yrs that banking will have changed let alone a thousand.
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Life is too short, you or me could be dead tomorrow.
mxers are allowed in pindale hora
I love Ladybower - but wouldn't go on a bank holiday due to the amount of traffic - cars on the way there and walkers about.
As mentioned above when we do go we go early and get back before midday.
However you do meet some strange people who want to park as close as possible. We got back after a ride, as we were loading our bikes up a bloke blocked the road waiting for us to go, then tooted his horn at us.
When I walked over to him and explained we were going to get a drink and a snack and weren't going he gave me a load of f's - cock
mxers are allowed in pindale hora
So why not 4x4's and why all the slabs of stone blocking everywhere?! FFS let people enjoy or kill themselves with their hobbies. I bashed my frigging lowers on one of those huge blocks.
Hora - i am talking about parking you tool! not where people should or shouldn't ride.
If you want an argument go start your own thread about bashing you lower!!
slabs of stone everywhere in a quarry!! FFS what ever next - sand in a desert!!
Do you work for Magura!!
Look at the bigger picture- who cares? I saw ALOT of MX'ers in Pindale quarry on Saturday (alot with number plates as well)- let them play ffs.
Sadly for the Peak District not so many people these days.
Was out riding in the Peak today and as i climbed away from Chatsworth half-choking on the car fumes, splashed with water by MX'ers and a quad-bike, past the fly-tipping and endless roadside litter i was glad to get out of the place and back to the more tranquil lanes near where i live.
why the **** would anyone want to ride in the peak on any weekend, nevermind a bank holiday one.
sheffield city center would have been quieter.
why the **** would anyone want to ride in the peak on any weekend, nevermind a bank holiday one.
I do and rarely see anyone. 50 miles on good Friday and saw 3 other riders. Can't say I go to Ladybower much though.
Haha, should have seen Sheff centre on Sunday, it was like threads all over again, I was the only one there, quite spooky really
I was at Ladybower today and only passed two other bikers all day. Where was everyone?? Will agree, though, the car parking after lunch was crazy.
Whilst you have a point about people (not bikers but all sorts of people) parking on verges and I agree its crap but its mainly the weekend warriors not the sorts taht are likely to frequent this forum so your anger really is directed in the wrong place
Anyway I can think of easier, quieter, more peaceful and nicer places around there to go for a 'takeaway brew' than 3 miles up a dead end no through road to the honeypot that is bank holiday Fairholmes
Appreciate its nice to take you gran out but come on what did you expect?
Maybe next time try McDonalds. They have a drive through, which last time I checked Ladybower did not. So where exactly did you park when you just nipped out the car to join the hordes of people and their kids in the probably not very fast moving queue?
Or if you had no intention of stopping did you kick Granny out to stand there and make your order whilst you drove round the carpark endlessly churning out diesel fumes and muttering under your breath?
I suspect thats the reasoning behind your rant
You had to take Nan out and that ruined your plans. You got there late and couldnt park up so settled for a quick cuppa in the car and drove home feeling frustrated and upset. So your easing your pain by letting off steam online
Bless you son, we have all been there 😉
oh and Trailhead?
WTF!?!?!
Never heard of a "trailhead" in the Peaks. please tell me where this mythical beast is so I may alter my parking habits and avoid wearing out my expensive Rubber Queens by riding on dirty, smooth, rubber eroding tarmac
iain1775
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Never heard of a "trailhead" in the Peaks
The term trailhead is used to denote the point where a path starts.
The reason you've never heard or seen one of these in the "Peaks" is because there is no such place.
There is however the [b][i]PEAK [/i][/b]district (or the peak if you want to be brief) and assuming this is where you mean, there are many trail heads there. They are commonly denoted by a finger post sign labelled "bridleway" you are allowed to ride these on your bike with it's expensive Rubber Queen tyres. There are other trail heads, marked with a finger post sign labelled "Foot path" you aren't allowed to use these.
I hope you find this information useful 🙂
So are any folk on here who happen to live in the Peaks saying outsiders shouldn't come in and enjoy the Peaks?
Sod off.
yeah I went upto the free car park at the bottom of jacobs ladder on saturday, and the inconsiderate b'stards where filming jane eyre or some such nonsense so I couldn't park there
so I went to the car park in edale, but the parking attendant wouldn't take "notes" (I didn't have any change, he wanted £3.50), so I went to the cafe, had a brew and a butty, and parked on the train station for £2.50
the welcoming hostility of the peaks. ace.
So are any folk on here who happen to live in the Peaks
he welcoming hostility of the peaks.
It really is The Peak - not Peak[b]s[/b]
As in short for Peak District.
But it is The Lake[b]s[/b]
This used to wrankle when I was a young man, so I'm not [u]just[/u] being old and grumpy.
I was refering to the White Peak and the Dark Peak, hence "Peaks"
[b]More car parks would ruin an area of natural beauty, as do southerners!
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are you saying we're ugly? 👿
Maybe next time try McDonalds. They have a drive through, which last time I checked Ladybower did not. So where exactly did you park when you just nipped out the car to join the hordes of people and their kids in the probably not very fast moving queue?
Or if you had no intention of stopping did you kick Granny out to stand there and make your order whilst you drove round the carpark endlessly churning out diesel fumes and muttering under your breath?
I suspect thats the reasoning behind your rant
You had to take Nan out and that ruined your plans. You got there late and couldnt park up so settled for a quick cuppa in the car and drove home feeling frustrated and upset. So your easing your pain by letting off steam online
Bless you son, we have all been there
Parked in a disabled spot as gran is disabled. Was an "on a whim" take her out and we were passing - she hasn't seen the dams for years. Oh - and i paid even though i was there for 10 mins max!!
[b]There is however the PEAK district (or the peak if you want to be brief)[/b]
is there only one then?, sounds crap, the locals seem really friendly though 😕
This debate is silly - peak district originates from a local "tribe" many moons ago:
Theories as to the derivation of the Peak District name include the idea that it came from the Pecsaetan or peaklanders, an Anglo-Saxon tribe who inhabited the central and northern parts of the area from the 6th century AD when it fell within the large Anglian kingdom of Mercia
I was refering to the White Peak and the Dark Peak, hence "Peaks"
But this is two different areas (or districts if you will) so perhaps it should be the Peak districts?
Only on STW could we end up having an argument as to whether the Peak District should be shortened to The Peak or The Peaks. 😆
LMAO at the pedantic tools who "hate" people referring to them as the peaks and not the peak!!
I live in the peak district born and bred and it's rapidly becoming the weekend home to penny slones who can't afford the prices in the Cotswolds or lakes and are buying up every dog kennel.
My local pub at the weekend now sounds like a trading room in the city.
As for ladybower it's rapidly becoming Alton Towers for the tosser elements of outdoor sports.
I am afraid it's not going to get any better and I no longer ride here at weekends.
get a life - what a shit comeback
But you do seem to need to...
Mountain bikers who cause errosion castigating drivers who spoil earth in what is a area created/moved by glaciers.
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It's not a glacial landscape.
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But this is two different areas (or districts if you will) so perhaps it should be the Peak districts?
So "Peak's" then? 😉
finbar - Member<pedant>
It's not a glacial landscape.
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Much of the Peak District scenery has been shaped by glacial processes, think of the glacially oversteepened face of Mam Tor, or the classic U-shaped glacial valley of the River Alport. Boulder clay can be found pretty much everywhere and it was probably glacial run-off that widened many of the fissures/caves in the limestone and widened, for example, Winnats Pass.
I've not been to the River Alport, but The Peak District wasn't glaciated in the last (Devensian) glacial period. I won't post the map as it's a wee bit OT but Google "Britice".
The region was ice covered in the Anglian (420 ka ago), but obviously there's been a lot going on since then. So i'd argue the geomorphology of the landscape is more periglacial/fluvial than glacial, especially around Ladybower.
I think fluvial processes are much more likely to be responsible for the steepness of Mam Tor than glacial erosion.
Peak District busy in places on bank holiday shocker!
lol
This thread is so funny 😆
Only on STW could we end up having an argument as to whether the Peak District should be shortened to The Peak or The Peaks
ukclimbing have this debate every couple of weeks [url= http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=245500 ]link[/url]
Basically it is The Peak and not Peaks.
Why do threads about the Peak District so often descend into bickering, name-calling and one-upmanship?
Are the locals particularly chippy or something? I'm not trolling btw, it's a genuine question.
PS. Peaks Peaks Peaks Peaks Peaks (I am trolling now).
The Peak District.
However it is also referred to as the white peak and the dark peak
Therefore BOTH camps of thought are right.
[i]I think fluvial processes [/i]
It's interesting to get to the bottom of the geology, of course. However, Hora's point was that it doesn't matter how inconsiderately someone parks at Ladybower, because glacial erosion and he rode into a concrete block. He's still wrong about that. 😉
What I can't stand is all those country folk coming into our cities and clogging up our roads, parking in our car parks, using our train stations, making the shops too busy, stealing our jobs, etc. etc. etc.
Like how people in the countryside see it as 'theirs'.
Considering the majority of the people who died protecting this country would have come from the mills and factories..
..rather than a few ex-townies who pretend they have 'old' money.
Like how people in the countryside see it as 'theirs'.
Considering the majority of the people who died protecting this country would have come from the mills and factories..
..rather than a few ex-townies who pretend they have 'old' money.
Basically it is The Peak and not Peaks.
I think you will find you are wrong. 🙄
'tis true that most of the ice went round the edges. I seem to remember a big sub-glacial channel near Whaley Bridge. Ice did cut across the western part of the White Peak too, depositing lots of boulder clay near and damming the Derwent to form a glacial lake. Bit wishy-washy on this subject I'm afriad. I could give you more accurate information about the Carboniferous history of the Peak(s) should any of you have trouble sleeping.
In summary, due to the various geological processes, and a couple of rather large dams, car parking is difficult 😆
porterclough - MemberPeak District busy in places on bank holiday shocker!
not about being busy its about inconsiderate ****ers parking wherever the **** they want to regardless of the damage they are causing to the area they have come to see/be in!!
whens the next bank holiday may have an outing to ladybower sounds nice
Not really sure what the problem is at ladybower, all the way along the road to the visitor centre they have nice wide footpaths and grassy areas which you can park your car on, easy, lots of room for everyone.
I rode White peak yesterday as Dark Peak is always busy. Got there nice and early. Did just make me laugh when coming home at the people queing in the area.
I do agree that some people don't realise/care that these places get busy, but then it is their loss!
While parking on the verge isn't ideal I doubt anyone goes to the peak and admires said verge when there is so much other to look at.
What do you suggest they do, put a bouncer on every road who does a one in one out policy once the carparks are full? The peak is a tourist attraction, you should expect some tourists every now and again, if you don't like sharing then go live somewhere else
Access to the Peak can easily be solved by the introduction of Border Control and barbed wire on the S. Yorks, Greater Manchester and Cheshire county boundaries. This will keep out all the Manchester and Sheffield based scumbags. Keep the Peak District for the good folk of Derbyshire. 🙂
Also in response to an above thread, the Winnats Pass is in fact a collapsed cavern. The roof of the cavern collapsed due to the weight of illegally parked cars over it on a particularly busy Bank Holiday weekend.
While parking on the verge isn't ideal I doubt anyone goes to the peak and admires said verge when there is so much other to look at.
That verge will one day become singletrack..
Keep the Peak District for the good folk of Derbyshire
Does that mean that Cut Gate is right out for any Derbyshire folk, what with it being entirely within the City of Sheffield boundary? 😉
Oddly enough I rode at Ladybower last Easter, and despite it being arguably better weather than this year I parked easily on the A57 at 2pm ish (the only sensible time to start a ride) and met very few other people riding, and relatively few walkers (the largest group being some orthodox Jews in best clothes on top of Hope Cross - Bamford must be getting pretty cosmopolitan these days).
its about inconsiderate ****ers parking wherever the **** they want to
Neither Ladybower nor the peak (or peaks) have a monopoly on this, see them everywhere but it does grate more when you see it in the country side. Oh and the amount of littering is despicable - while it's upsetting seeing someone launch a full McD/KFC meals worth of packaging out the window of a car onto my front street, it is infinitley more annoying seeing someone do the same thing out in the country side.
"not about being busy its about inconsiderate ****ers parking wherever the **** they want to "
Have you considered the hypocrasy of your post - I hope whilst you where stopped for 10 mins in your disabled spot just to have a cup of tea you didnt ruin some other disabled persons day who was out for the full day on a planned visit possibly at great difficulty, time and expense(rather than on a whim) because you where taking up the disabled bay
There are numerous peaks in the Peak (singular) District yet its the 'Peak' (singular)
There are numerous Lakes in the Lake (singular) district yet its the 'Lakes' (plural)?
Honestly who gives a f... other than some stuck up toffy countryfolk locals who are hear de-riding non local people for being stuck up toffs!
BTW Im from Derbyshire so have more claim to the PeakS than those of you with a Yorkshire postcode - f*ck off back to your own county why don't you 😉
Whilst again I say its not correct to park on a verge, if the National park staff thought it was such a big problem then Im sure they would have erected barriers, posts or strategically positioned boulders to stop it before now.
There are numerous Lakes in the Lake (singular) district yet its the 'Lakes' (plural)?
Actually...
[url= http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_lakes_in_the_lake_district ]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_lakes_in_the_lake_district[/url]
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"Does that mean that Cut Gate is right out for any Derbyshire folk, what with it being entirely within the City of Sheffield boundary"
porterclough - Yes that's fine. If Cut Gate is in fact in S. Yorks the Derbyshire clan will respect this. Rules is rules. 🙂
Iain - we stopped to collect a brew not sit and drink it!! Can you read - i think not!
there were 4 spare disabled spots at the side so no bother there dude!!
there were 4 spare disabled spots
Oh, well thats alright then! 🙄
This thread sounds like those people who after a few two many start ranting and arguing with one another for no discernable reason!
What is the problem? Too many southerners or northerners? Too many people mountain biking? Not enough car parking spaces? Glacial erosion or non-glacial erosion? 4x4s? expensive bikes?
and I haven't even read all the posts yet 🙂
You hang around the Peak. However I'm going to ride in the Peak[u][b]S[/b][/u]
hainey - Memberthere were 4 spare disabled spots
Oh, well thats alright then!
Of course it is - my gran is disabled, she has a blue badge, i paid - quelle problem??
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so where did you drink it then?
Hopefully not whilst driving?
Im guessing you had to stop somewhere
Guarantee you that in stopping wherever it was (unless you took it home and parked on your own property)you will have in some equally trivial way upset or inconvieienced someone else
Because thats life. Our actions no matter what will always annoy others in some way, human nature
Regardless of Peak, peaks, cars parked on verges, glacier mints and all the rest of it - Your still an idiot for going up there just for a cup of tea on one of the busiest days of the year and then moaning about it
I almost feel guilty for driving up from the Lincolnshire border for a cycle around erm, that green & pleasant land west of Sheffield.
We parked in Hope & had a great day (Saturday) - especially as we were expecting a deluge of rain, but instead got about 5 mins of drizzle and 5 mins of light hail.
Saw lots of people, exchanged many cheerful hello's with cyclists, walkers & horse riders alike and had a thoroughly enjoyable day.
Plus, it confirmed to me that I was able to ride stuff on my new bike loads better than I could with the old bike, mainly due to not feeling like I was about to fly over the handlebars on every descent.
And, my new un-bedded in SSC pads survived the whole day with a fair amount of material left. I was a little concerned from posts on here, that the Peak District would wear my pads down to the backing plate before I even got to any off-road riding!
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