I've got one from Aguile which I want to love but it constantly slips and becomes a PITA.
Can anyone recommend something that actually works.
Quite like my osprey talon.
I own a few, been on the search for the 'perfect' bum bag for a few years 😁
I prefer ones that hold a bottle (or two) rather than a bladder.
Got two Camelback ones, both very good for lighter days out on the summer. Very comfy, but a bit limited in space. Podium Flow and a Podium Flow 4.
Evoc one, again very comfy, but the build quality was so-so. A few bits wore out/ripped sooner than is expect.
Two Ospreys - old Talon which was great but is pretty tired now, and a newer Savu 5 which is my current go to. Carries two bottles if needed, loads of storage. Well thought out internal layout, and the build quality is excellent.
Evoc Pro 3L. Best support system there is, and not too big that you can make it too heavy.<br /><br />
id agree with this. Even with the 1.5 litre bladder filled with water and another 1.3 litres in 2 bottles stored in the pockets on each side, mine still doesn’t feel uncomfortable.
For a budget version the Camelbak Repack isn’t bad. Perfectly comfortable but as the fluid goes you have to keep tightening it. Certainly not a big problem.
I have 2, Dekine and Osprey, I don't like either of them
I love a bum bag. My 2 favourites:
1)Evoc hip pack pro for bigger days
2)Bontrager rapid pack for minimalism.
Prefer to use the bontrager, if I can get away with it.
Half the battle is getting your kit weight low and/or stuff stashed in the bike
I can honestly say Ive hated everyone I’ve tried
which have you tried? Or more specifically, gave you tried the evoc?
I tried an osprey talon and a camelback (pelagos, I think) that was designed for SUP-ing. Neither worked for me, but I gave the camelback to a friend and they love it.
Dakine Hotlaps here, the small one, once it's on I forget about it.
I've no idea how people ride with water in one though, for doorstep riding I just use a 500 or 750ml bottle on the bike and refill on route if it's a longer ride.
I've an Osprey Seval (I think), depending on my waist line, it either sits perfectly or needs the straps cinched a bit mid-ride.
I've a toolkit that works on my bike but is minimalist and I can fit snacks - now I've discovered it can be expanded it may even take a lightweight rain jacket.
Absolutely hate carrying anything on the bike, but this bumbag seems to work well. When full you do feel it when first on, but after a couple of minutes you don't notice it.
I have a scott one, big waist strap with extra loops for waterproof (designed for knee pads)
Inov8 one for less stuff
Big bum bag fan here
I have a scott one, big waist strap with extra loops for waterproof (designed for knee pads)
Inov8 one for less stuff
Big bum bag fan here
I used a Dakine Hotlaps which was ok.
Been using a Rapha one for the past 18 months or so and it’s been really good, I forget it’s there when I wear it.
I've got the Dakine 5L and it's good when I need the water, but my old Drafter carries more water better, though it means going back to a backpack.
Now my bike can hold a full size bottle, I went for the Dakine Stealth. It's good for the phone/wallet/keys, but I went up to the 1L with room for a light jacket & external loops to carry a folding saw.
The Dakine 1L is the perfect bumbag.
I've a Dakine Hot Laps. Its got just about enough space for most things, there's two water bottle cradles, so in theory you could carry over 2lts if you wanted, (I've I've never used them, I don't know how stable the pack is loaded like that), and very useful loops at the bottom so you can sling a jacket or pads in there if you need to. The main compartment is err, compartmentalised so your shit doesn't just rattle around, a key loop, which is a must have IMO, and a separate fleece slot for your phone - which to be fair, I can only just get my iPhone SE in, so if you've got a Phablet you'd struggle. It's pretty waterproof, and if it gets muddy can stand being hosed off at the end of the day. I don't like that the straps are pretty stiff, and it's a struggle to move them, especially if its covered in mud from the back wheel (yes, I know mudguards exist)
I think you need to be the right shape for bum-bags, it needs to sit on you hip bones to be stable, and not your waist, for lots of folks that's just not comfy (or possible sometimes if you're a larger gent)
I’ve got a Deuter one. It’s durable, and was dirt cheap in a sale. It stays in place well even when it’s full with water and other stuff.
My only slight niggle with it is how the reservoir hose attaches to the waistband.
I've got an Evoc one and it's great. I had the same problem as you but with the Evoc you first have a velcro fastened belt and then a clip over that so it can't really loosen off when riding
Those of you with the Evoc Pro 3l - do you use it with a bladder or bottles. I'm currently on my second Dakine Hotlaps 1,5l but it's starting to get holes in it and I fancy a change.
I'm a big fan of bum bags, I only ever use a Camelbak for big days out in the mountains these days.
Another +1 for the dakine hot laps.
During the summer I carry an extra 800ml bottle in one of the side pouches, it does make it lean and become a bit uncomfortable at times, but I use that drink first then go to the one on the bike. Perfect for what I need, 1-2 hour ride in the week.
This time of year I wait for the mud to dry then just brush it off. Looks virtually new still after 2 years.
I've got a camelback repack. Don't notice it's there after the first few rides.
Start fitness have them for £40
I have dakine hot laps 2l and 5l. Both excellent. The big one can feel a bit bulky with 2l of water and other kit but it stays in place and the magnetic tube never comes off accidentally. They both get used far more than my backpacks.
I love a bum bag. My 2 favourites:
1)Evoc hip pack pro for bigger days
2)Bontrager rapid pack for minimalism.
Prefer to use the bontrager, if I can get away with it.
Half the battle is getting your kit weight low and/or stuff stashed in the bike
Thank you, that saved me a lot of typing on my phone. Exactly what I was going to say.
https://www.aiguillealpine.co.uk/product/rucksacks-bags/bum-bags/t010/
I use this one, fantastic. I'm a slim fella with no waist to write home about and it's stable, comfy, fit and forget about it for me
I have a small dakine with bits on the side for a bottle and a bigger dakine with a 2L bladder.
Hotlaps 2L and 5L respectively.
They work well with and with out water.
I will over stuff every bag I ever go anywhere with. The 2L takes a bottle, phone small jacket and a sandwich if packed with precision.
The 5L takes 2L water, sandwich, couple of snacks and jacket. It would have to be a big day out for me to take the bladder and fill it.
The big one is a red/yellow overly bright colour and hence was cheap in a sale.
That is an awesome price for the waist pack. Stick it on the psa bargains thread with a link and stw might get some payback too
I have the Fox 2l hip pack, love it. Perfect size for me, doesn't move, comfy, looks good, seems well made. Regularly gets hosed down after muddy rides and all good
Also check out the camelback mule 5.
It is slightly bigger than the repack, has 2 bottle holders and a cargo net on the top to stash a jacket. £45 at wiggle with an extra 10% off
Osprey Savu 2 here. I wanted one specifically that had a bottle holder. It works great, and I thought I'd hate it but I don't! Picked it up in decathlon as they seem to often be on reduced price. Think it cost me £20.
Another vote for Dakine Hotlaps. Think mine is a 1 litre. No issues on downhill runs.
“Also check out the camelback mule 5.
It is slightly bigger than the repack, has 2 bottle holders and a cargo net on the top to stash a jacket. £45 at wiggle with an extra 10% off”
I’ve only had this a couple of weeks but I like it!
The bottle holders are just big enough to securely squish a lightweight waterproof or windproof into. There isn’t much room in the main body when the bladder is in there but I’ve got basic tools and CO2 and tubeless repair stuff and some room to spare. Another pocket takes a phone. And there’s some pockets on the belt, one with a zip, for snacks etc. And the shock cord on the top is super useful when you’ve gone out wearing too much (like a microfleece when it was sub-zero) and needed to remove a layer.
Much better than a muddy bottle or hot sweaty back at this time of year.
I've had a few but my current go to one is the alpkit one. It's also on sale at £32 and cheaper if you have a voucher.
Sits on my hips well. I don't feel it bouncing or the extra weight and it seems to hold a lot. Takes a bladder or two bottle either side. Had it a while now and it's holding up really well. I'd buy another if it breaks.
https://alpkit.com/products/vora-6-waist-pack
I've got the Dakine hot laps 5L with the 2L bladder. Got it because my last bike couldn't take a bottle. With 2L of water in it feels like it wants to roll down rather than slide, just need to keep the strap uncomfortably tight. 1L is ok. Only really have a couple of tools phone keys and a snack in, it does feel really big but yet can't actually fit that much in it.
It's good enough not great but not bothered enough to try to find something better.
I really like my Dakine 5L. Build quality is superb and still solid after a few years. A really good solution although now looking at going bagless with one top tube bottle and an Evoc frame bag.
Never felt that any bum bag style worked well unless only very light loading so ended up getting a Wingnut Assault which is like a bum bag size version of their bigger packs
I tried two versions of the Repack. The first one slipped, the second version slipped a bit less. Gone for the Evoc Pro, and it's much, much more reliable. The Velcro waist strap's a bit weird at first, but so much more secure.
Having tried a fair few I still find myself coming back to this one more often than not
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/all-mountain-mtb-hydration-belt-4l-1-5l-water-black/_/R-p-309654
I use them all the time. I've a Camelback repack and a huuuuge Lowe Alpine Spacecase 7. The Camelback is great, really stable, but the Lowe Alpine tends to slip off the hips, so I added some velcro to the straps to add a bit of extra anti slip. It's now perfect and i usually use it on the MTB instead of a rucksack.
Snugpak Response Pack: been using it for years on cycling and motorbike adventures.
Never felt that any bum bag style worked well unless only very light loading
That was my take, too, don't think I've used any of mine with the supplied bladder, just carrying everything else with the a bottle on the frame.
Got an Evoc, one of the earlier ones. Holding up OK despite some falls, never used the bladder.
GF has a Decathlon one and I've used it a few times. It's fine. Much more storage, but still hugs your back. GF uses the bladder and takes an extra layer so it works for her.
Cost about 45€.
This one...
ROCKRIDER Gürteltasche mit Trinkblase MTB All Mountain 4 l / 1,5 l Wasser
44,99 €
I get on well with an Osprey Seral 7, though I don't always uses the supplied reservoir/bladder, you can also, at a pinch, also stick a bottle, or two, under the compression straps if you want to. Comfortable, stable, well-designed with multiple pockets/compartments. Enough space to hold a lightweight spare jacket, a very minimal survival bag, first aid kit, snacks, phone, tools etc. On big winter days I'll swap to a Raptor 14, but mostly - as long as you have lightweight kit - the Seral is fine. They seem to get sold off half price on Sport Pursuit every six months or so.
The only downside I've found with the Seral, is the magnetic attachment for the bite-valve tube, which isn't always quite butch enough if you catch it on something snaggy. Also, Osprey customer service is excellent. They just replaced the reservoir FOC on what must be a 10-year-old Raptor when it sprang a pinhole leak when the tube-attachment moulding split, plus they swapped the magnet arrangement on the Seral for an updated one.
Not used the Dakine, so no idea how it compares.
Osprey Serel 7 here and a Tundra Survival.
I like it alot, but use a 750ml bladder bottle from Lidl and water bottle on the bike.
Keep a gym bag/sack rolled up inside for carrying a jacket when I take it off or a great fly tip find that I can carry home.
Also, pack inside a Russian Rucksack Bag made from a pillowcase and some cord.
Wish the rig had some sort of Yoke/harness from thin straps on some occasions.
Used to them now, who wants a giant rucksack for mincing around the local woods.
Also, it's takes a sketch book and pens.
Not OP but will be checking some of these out myself. I have an Evoc 3L and whilst I love the design and avoiding a rucksack, my hips just don't seem to like bumbags at all and they all slide down onto my bum. If I want to avoid this I have to wear it really high on my waist which is really uncomfortable. Guess it is just the shape of my midsection.
Repack and Hip Pack user - both need constant adjustment for me, but the Evoc is comfier
The Osprey seems to have a slightly convex curve to the foam of the back section so it sort of nestles into the curve at the base of your spine really securely - at least it does for me, I think the other factor here is the consistency of the foam which needs to be dense enough to be supportive and not collapse under load, but still have enough cush to stay comfortable. I think as load increases, this stuff matters more. It also helps if the belt is wide enough and has enough wrap-around to stay comfortable even when cinched up snug to cope with heavier loads.
Osprey seems really good at this stuff, which you'd kind of expect from a specialist pack brand, but as you say, there's always an element of individual anatomical shape going on with this stuff.
I use a Fox hip pack, but I don't put water in it. I don't know why people would want all that weight dragging on their belly when they have a perfectly good strong set of shoulders to carry weight.
Hip pack and bottle for short rides, I am still using a Camelback for longer ones.
Tried a cheap bumbag in the early 1990’s.
Never got on with it.
You really need a shoulder strap to take the weight.
Tbh, I’d rather wear one of those rucksacks that vents my back. That way, there’s some protection if I flip the bike over.
Gave the Dekine hotlaps a go again on Sunday and I still don't like it 😔
I second the Dakine Hotlaps 5l.
Hits the spot.
I bought an Evoc Pro 3l off the back of this thread to try. First impressions - it's much bigger than my Dakine Hot Laps 2l but I like the side pockets and the velcro plus buckle strap. Hopefully it doesn't feel too big when riding and stays in position.
Ordered the non pro evoc one without the velco. Getting the feeling I should have gone 'pro' but worth a shot for rhe cash.