[Closed] EU - Another potential nail in the coffin no one is talking about

corporately run media

A very well kept secret. Surprised UKIP haven't mentioned it? What am I missing?

Care to provide a link or source or any other info on that one, even my google is proving futile

here might have been a little mention of that in our corporately run media..

FWIW they are voting on Turkey EU ascension

Should i start stockpiling praline?

even google have been infiltrated by the EUlluminati

Maybe the news has been buried under Fritz Wahtsisnames house

can't find any info, but I know from riding through Austria last summer, there was a huge amount of anti EU graffiti around Innsbruck (or at least there was along the cycle paths)

just checking this is a reborn derekfish/UKIP man isn't it?

http://www.esiweb.org/index.php?lang=en&id=281&story_ID=20&slide_ID=1

Took me a while to find anything as well

My bold for the irony value 😉

[b]It is one of the most talked-about events in global politics in years[/b], and the thousands of journalists converging on Vienna to cover it reflect the enormous interest of a world-wide audience. CNN, the BBC and Al-Jazeera have sent teams of reporters to towns and villages across Austria, interviewing taxi drivers in Linz and mountain farmers in Tyrol, asking them "What is it that you fear?". They are broadcasting live from the Kahlenberg hill overlooking Vienna where, they tell their viewers, the Turks were stopped once before in 1683.

Around the world, the quality press has been reporting for weeks on the run-up to the Austrian referendum on Turkish EU accession. In London, The Guardian writes: "In 1683, Turkey was the invader. In 2015, Austria still sees it that way." A commentator in The Financial Times notes: "For many Austrians it is as though the Janissaries were even now aiming their cannon at the gates of Vienna." The Austrian press ("Siege Mentality", "The Return of the Turks", "Bulwark Austria") and the Turkish media ("The Walls of Vienna", "Will Vienna fall?") are awash with military metaphors.

Everywhere they go, foreign reporters are asking: Why Austria? It is a natural question. This is not Switzerland, and referenda are not part of the country's normal politics. In fact, there have only ever been two previous referenda in Austria: one on nuclear power, and one to decide on Austria's own accession to the EU. Nor have Austrians been asked in previous decades to vote on the accession of any other candidate for EU membership. Turkey is therefore an exception. And so is Austria, once France changed its constitution in 2010 to allow parliament to ratify treaties of accession. During the long years of negotiations, Austria and some other countries have secured permanent exceptions to protect their labour markets. Yet that hardly figures in this referendum debate in 2015.

Instead, what the media corps sees is a small, wealthy, overwhelmingly Catholic country voting on the fate of a large, less prosperous and overwhelmingly Muslim one. Political posters everywhere evoke the clash of civilisations: there are countless pictures of headscarves and minarets, references to the Sharia, Muslim hordes and terrorism. The right-wing Austrian Freedom Party and its blue-eyed leader have become household names from Jeddah to Jakarta. Its activists enflame tensions, accusing the Prophet of having been a child-molester. But they are not alone: the Christian Democratic mayor of Graz also tells the press: "Graz has a long history of fighting the Turks. Today, we continue this fight with different means."

There has never been any doubt about the outcome of the referendum. For more than a decade, Eurobarometer polls have recorded no more than 10 percent support among Austrians for Turkish accession. With the exception of the Green party, all political parties represented in parliament have campaigned for a 'no' vote. It is the inevitability of the result which fascinates some (and shocks others). Vienna 2015 will replace Vienna 1683 as a global metaphor for the eternal confrontation between Christian and Muslim Europe.

[url= http://www.euractiv.de/sections/oesterreich/eu-austritt-oesterreich-haelt-volksbegehren-ab-311116 ]This is all I could find[/url]

[url= https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.euractiv.de%2Fsections%2Foesterreich%2Feu-austritt-oesterreich-haelt-volksbegehren-ab-311116&edit-text=&act=url ]translated using google[/url]

Sorry, what's the vote about - Turkey joining the EU or Austria leaving it?

[edit] [i]just checking this is a reborn derekfish/UKIP man isn't it? [/i]

looks that way 🙂

The Austrians

UKIP Man? Certainly not.

The referendum afaik is about the Austrians leaving the EU, my point is you'd think our media might have mentioned it with everything going on with Greece and all.

care to enlighten us as to what the story is then?

Turkey joining the EU?
There's nearly as many Turkish as Austrians in Vienna. It loos like they already joined at least that city.
I just asked mrs iolo about the leaving EU referendum. She's Austrian. She hasn't heard about it.

Got a link or anything?

mikewsmith - Member
Got a link or anything?

That was just all I could find, I don't know the website or whether it is legit. Even twitter is quiet about it. Where did you read it originally?

If Austria did exit then everyone would be watching them to see what effect it has on the country and its economy post-exit.

If it went bad then the media would be allover it.

If it went good then we'd never hear anothre word.

It will be a bugger for the Ski season next year....

If Austria did exit then everyone would be watching them to see what effect it has on the country and its economy post-exit.

If it went bad then the media would be allover it.

If it went good then we'd never hear anothre word.

You really don't read much do you.

[url= http://www.wien-konkret.at/politik/direkte-demokratie/volksbegehren/eu-austrittsvolksbegehren/ ]Another link from the guy who told us about it on the windsurf forum[/url]

iolo, basing you comment about your missus, my missus should know whats going on in Italy -this is not the case, far from it, she didn't even know (until i told her) Italy was a unified country until 150 years ago..

the financial markets would be doing circles by now, but they are not..

I'll give that the benefit of dodgy google translate (conspiracy)

Effect: When more than 100,000 Austrians sign this petition, then must be in the Austrian parliament discussed and decided on. Since a referendum is not a referendum, the decision of the citizens is not binding. On the other hand, there is currently no way for citizens to initiate a referendum. .

You really don't read much do you

and now he can do some of the dot to dots as well 😉

Derek at least make it hard for us to work out who you are 😉

Sorry I apply cynicism when it comes to anything to do with Politicians and the media.

Next Im going to take apply clownshoes to Trade Unions 😀

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It is a non-story! I regularly watch the Austrian News on ORF1 and this is not a topic on there. Reading that article it appears to be a petition being raised to have a "referendum" on the topic, bought by a animal rights activist who blames the EU for all things wrong in the world of animal health and welfare. If she gets 100000 signatures parliament are obliged to debate it but are under no obligation to take further action.

[url= https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=de&ie=UTF8&nv=1&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.wien-konkret.at/politik/direkte-demokratie/volksbegehren/eu-austrittsvolksbegehren/&usg=ALkJrhivIAvmSBsH6LsGThZYN6r4KOSXDQ ]I'm not so sure now[/url] wondering if he (the Austrian Windsurfer) has got the wrong end of the stick, it looks more like they're trying to petition for a referendum which could explain why nothing is being talked about, because it's bollox and I've wasted all your time, apologies for that. I shall get my coat and go admonish him...

And I put it in the wrong place 😳

It looks no different to our HM government e-petitions that when signed by 100,000 gets 'considered' for debate in parliament. No idea if the Austrian one is similar, but is clearly very little to care about. It's hardly a nail in the coffin for the EU.

And what's this still doing in the bike forum?!

don't worry the Germans will sort any attempt by Austria to leave.

#auxit is setting twitter alight right now!

[url= http://twitter.com/search?q=%23auxit&src=typd ]auxit[/url]

Why on earth would you trust a windsurfer from a land-locked country?

warpcow - Member
#auxit is setting twitter alight right now!

auxit

Why on earth would you trust a windsurfer from a land-locked country?

Doh, sorry it's monday morning and you're right even on the windsurf forum he talks a load of bollox about fins and 'toe in' all the time, how embarrassing, I'm such a dork. 😳

I think [i]NotDerekStarfishHonest[/i] would have been a better username.

Why on earth would you trust a windsurfer from a land-locked country?

Of course, how silly?
Why would you windsurf on a lake?

Neusidlersee as an example. Far too small.

http://www.weidenamneusiedlersee.at/Windsurfing.33.0.html?&L=1

iolo - Member
Why on earth would you trust a windsurfer from a land-locked country?
Of course, how silly?
Why would you windsurf on a lake?

Neusidlersee as an example. Far too small.

http://www.weidenamneusiedlersee.at/Windsurfing.33.0.html?&L=1

Sorry, stupid joke. I've actually been there.

Why on earth would you trust a windsurfer from a land-locked country?

Well they did have quite a large navy at one point.

But then they weren't land-locked.