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[Closed] Erm, are tubeless repairs permanent??

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Sorry, stoopid question.
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Got my first non autosealed puncture in my Anthem tyre. Seems pretty small, but didn't fix itself. Bike is two years old.
Some sealant came out but not much. Totally confused about what to do now. My instinct is to remove the tyre and put a patch from the inside, but I'm guessing that'll just result in a shocking mess. Hole doesn't seem big enough for an anchovy.

Is there away of squirting new sealant through the puncture to refill the tyre?

Also, do people leave anchovies/autosealed long term or do you just buy a new tyre? (Gulp)


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 5:26 pm
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I have left anchovies in tyres for the remainder of the tyres life without issue (don’t tell the safety police but I’ve done this with the bigger versions in car and motorcycle tyres too)

If the hole isn’t big enough for an anchovy it will be once you’ve stuck one in.  The small ones from Genuine Innovations sound ideal in your case.

More sealant may be easier to squirt in via the valve with the core removed otherwise you can always unseat a section of tyre to stick some in


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 5:31 pm
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I'd first try adding some more sealant through the valve core. If you haven't topped sealant up in 2 years then there will be bugger all of much use left in there. If it still doesn't seal then I'd chuck an anchovy in there.

Also, do people leave anchovies/autosealed long term

Yep


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 5:37 pm
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Many kits come with a file that you can use to size the hole for a tyre plug but perhaps you just need smaller plugs. You can shake the tyre or use a zip tie as dipstick to see if you have enough sealant left.

Personally I would replace the tyre plug with a patch on the inside when convenient but I wouldn't necessarily rush do it immediately. A patch on the inside done properly is permanent.


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 5:39 pm
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Awesome, many thanks all.

you haven’t topped sealant up in 2 years then there will be bugger all of much use left in there.

That's sort of what I was thinking.

Goes off to spark Bridge to find a bike shop🤔


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 5:53 pm
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Try the above first.
I asked a while back about this and had this recommendation from Tracy on here for a permanent repair.

I have had them that have been in for quite a while until I got round to a permanent repair with a mushroom plug. I usually repair with the mushroom plug when I get home or if we are away when we get back to the camper. Cheap to buy on ebay and will last the life of the tyre.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-TYRE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-WIRED-3MM-SMALL-HEAD-PLUG-PATCH-MUSHROOM/131208504777?hash=item1e8ca2e5c9:g:nJYAAOxymmJTkHmO


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 6:05 pm
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I tend to put a tyre mushroom plug like one of these in for a permanent repair. Only used them twice though, one's now on a tubed bike and the other waiting to be refitted, so I can't say how long they last, but I'm told it's basically 'until the tyre wears out'.

Edit: same as above!


 
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I have left some dynaplugs in with no problem so far, I am not really expecting them though. I pulled the brass tip of the inside of one when I had the tyre off and the plug did not budge.


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 6:07 pm
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I had one on the weekend in my G-One. Had to pump it up twice to get home. Got home, saw sealant was try to fix it, so pumped to 60psi. left it with the hole at the bottom. Sealed overnight, job done.
I guess there are 3 options ( ok 4 - bin the tyre)
Sealant works, leave it
Plug it with a anchovy/Dynaplug
Remove tyre and patch

I’ve done them all over the years and they all work (road & mtb)
On the bead is the worst to repair and I’ve done a double, patch + plug that has worked.


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 8:19 pm
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Personally I would replace the tyre plug with a patch on the inside when convenient

Waste of time IMO. Have left loads of anchovies in for the remainder of the life of the tyre. None have failed. If it gets a good initial seal then your can consider the tyre fixed.


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 8:36 pm
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Can you get different sized anchovies?

Had a 5mm ish slice puncture in a brand new maxxis and a normal anchovy wouldn't fill it, plus it was on the edge of the tyre by the sideknobs so kept dislodging with impacts.


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 8:46 pm
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^^ Perhaps a tyre boot would be better for a puncture at the edge of the tread?

https://www.parktool.com/product/emergency-tire-boot-tb-2


 
Posted : 04/08/2020 1:53 am
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Mushroom plugs, fix and forget.


 
Posted : 04/08/2020 6:54 am
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Can you get different sized anchovies?

Had a 5mm ish slice puncture in a brand new maxxis and a normal anchovy wouldn’t fill it, plus it was on the edge of the tyre by the sideknobs so kept dislodging with impacts.

Get a tyre mushroom (I asked nicely at my local Kwik fit and the chap gave me several, and wouldn't take anything for them) and forget you ever had an issue.

Just be sure to clean the inside of the tyre well to remove any sealant from the area you are patching. I tend to use a quick squirt of brake cleaner, leave to dry, apply glue till its tacky, add a bit of glue to the base of the mushroom, pull through firmly and press into place. Job done


 
Posted : 04/08/2020 8:50 am
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They are without doubt the best repair, bombproof.

I've used anchovies for years, with great success, but I did lose one on a stage on an Enduro, had been in for months before it let go, so I now consider them temporary, YMMV.


 
Posted : 04/08/2020 9:23 am

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