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 Gunz
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I'm doing my first 12 hour endurance ride in a couple of months and after trying a friend's set of flat Ergons I fancy using them for this event.
Having looked at their site I can see the usual flat type for everyday use and lightweight for racing but also a pretty regular looking grip for technical riding.
Are the flat type any good for anything technical and are the normal looking type any more comfortable compared to what I've got already (generic lock-on)? Cheers.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 9:45 am
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I have the flat type (as pictured below) and never notice any difference from normal grips on anything technical. They are great for long rides.

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Posted : 30/04/2015 9:52 am
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they're only a problem if you're someone who drops their elbows a lot on steeper climbs as they stop your wrist dropping.

Other than that if you get the angle right they're fine for everything.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 9:54 am
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Great, thanks for the advice.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 10:00 am
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I have recently bought a pair of Ergon GA2's which are more like a normal grip in profile (still have some shaping though) and they have made a massive difference compared to standard lock on grips.
I would think they would be a huge improvement over your standard lock ons but maybe not as comfortable as the big flat ones pictured above


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 10:38 am
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I ride the flat grips for technical riding. You need to angle them properly to get any benefit. Min are angled at about 45 degrees to keep my wrist completely straight. With normal grips, you may find you drop your wrists. Ergon grips can help you to not do this if set up properly. If you mount them flat, they don't really serve any purpose other than get in the way!

One last point, they come in two sizes. I have reasonably small hands for a man and the Large were too big for me. Bought them before I knew any better. Still great grips and I'm very fond of them. Never had any wrist problems, but we will see now I've just broken one.


 
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I liked the ones with the mini bar ends,great on big days with lots of climbs ,and I never felt that they got in the way.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 11:02 am
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They say don't mount on carbon bars though.

GP2s with the stubby bar ends on SS, fantastic. Prefer Chunkies on the FS though.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 11:11 am
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I've had them on carbon bars for years... not dead yet...


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 11:12 am
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They say don't mount on carbon bars though

Oooops! 😳 I've got a pair of those GS1s pictured above on my Easton Haven carbon bars.

Is that just the ones with bar ends or all of them? And even if you follow the torque guidelines to the letter?


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 11:18 am
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I use that same type as in Fasthaggis' picture above. Get on with them really well. If you get them make sure you use them for a couple of decent rides before the 12hr, and have an Allen key to adjust them - mine ended up at a very different angle after I'd ridden them.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 11:19 am
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I bought some of the kind pictured above for long rides years ago, but I binned them because I found my hands wanted to slip off and if I rotated them down I might as well have used normal grips. Eight or nine years later I fit them to my fully rigid 29er with trendy curvy On One Fleegles and they are superb. None of the issues I had before and way more comfortable. Probably down to the greater sweep.

I've been using the more 'normal' grips (they used to call them freeride or something) for years on the bouncy bike and they are excellent.

If you mount them flat, they don't really serve any purpose other than get in the way!

I disagree. If you have them flat they support your hand across much greater area on the side of your hand which reduces pressure a lot, rather than having all your weight in a line across your palm. I believe this is the design principle behind them. It also allows you a different position on flat bits similar to the way I used to ride resting on the corners of my bar ends, which is nice.

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Posted : 30/04/2015 11:38 am
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Eh?
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Mine are set so the angle is nearer 170 degrees.

"The wrist should be in a neutral position avoiding an exaggerated kink" - from the GP1 instructions. The precise angle to the horizontal will depend on your handlebar height and drop from the saddle.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 1:18 pm
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Eh to who?


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 1:23 pm
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Presumably 'Eh' to the instiructions that that diagram is from.

TiRed - I suspect though that you think you're 170 degrees whereas in reality you're not.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 1:30 pm
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Pretty close to 170. I set them up to have as little bend as possible, but this is on a set of very swept back bars. I've also had them on conventional bars as well and again, the angle was about 45 degrees.

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I really like them, but there are plenty of people that either don't get on with them or positively loath them!


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 1:39 pm
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Like mine , have bar ends and they are on carbon bars

used for years
Only my SS has normal grips as i prefer massive bar ends on that


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 1:47 pm
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Ti - I'd have said from that pic that you look like the 148 degree diagram, if not less...


 
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Yeah true, sorry 😳

Only joking though 🙁


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 2:09 pm
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They come in two sizes but unless you have really massive hands don't be tempted to go for the larger size as they will feel too much of a handful. The small size is OK for most hands and far superior to a straight grip; you will actually feel connected with the bike.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 2:19 pm
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The only time I don't like them on the Salsa is when honking out of the saddle, I actually feel LESS connected to the bike then due to shifting hand position.

TiRed - the rules only apply to straight bars - for weirdo bars the hand position is completely different. Ergon grips pre-date weirdo bars.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 2:40 pm
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[i]Ergon grips pre-date weirdo bars. [/i]

you sure 😉

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fashionable long TT/short stem combo, too.


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 2:45 pm
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Actually the grips predate those bars by quite a few years. But I've always tried to keep my wrists as straight as possible rather than drop them even on conventional riser bars.

The Large size felt huge in my hands. I kept them on another bike until it was stolen, but they never felt "right".


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 2:58 pm
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FWIW the large ones feel spot on for me but I do have large hands...


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 4:05 pm
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170°!!! You must feel like you're always about to go OTB!!!


 
Posted : 30/04/2015 4:53 pm

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