Hey!
I've got a Orbea Rise in the post, comes with a Fox 38 performance elite.
I've got a Lyrik that I've tuned to myself, and fitted a DSD Runt that is the perfect fork for me.
With a 15kg bike, has anyone experienced the difference between a 35/36 fork and 38 fork?
Normally I'd be more than happy with a 35/36 and no where near need a 38. But... It's a much heavier bike. (And I'm a much heavier rider since lockdown began!!!).
Cheers!
Ricks
I'm a bit confused by the reference to a 15kg bike. I've got an Orbea Occam which I got down to 13.5kgish with lots of CF, silly bald tyres and money, but in trail mode it's easily 15kg.
Doesn't the Rise have a motor... which will surely put it way heavier than that.
Anyway, back to your question, which I had indeed been debating this month after everyone got frothing about that cheap Fox 38s PSA.
I don't understand the need forr 38s on any bike that's not uplift only, and don't understand why people gettem. Fair enough, I'm more of an XC kind of guy and don't go very fast, and tbh I've never tried one so shouldn't really comment.
Having said which, I've done over 40km of descent this month, including a lot of very steep and rocky stuff and never really thought I could use a bigger, stiffer fork. I was just amazed at how well my Fox worked. ( big thanks to those who pushed me to get the 150mm 36s instead of the 140mm 34s)
F m l - I am running 32mm forks on my hardcore ht and I am BIG and never feels like I need go fatter legs.
Keep them I'd say, why waste monies on a 36 to replace.
Or just wack your lyrik on if it is spare.
All best
Seen a lot (like 10+) of posts on various forums from riders who have bought the 38 because bigger numbers = bigger radz right? and are complaining that the forks are too stiff and lack small bump compliance on their weekly mince round the red and blue trail centre route.
Whistler bike park / Red Bull Rampage / train gaps and massive sends = 38
All other applications I'd personally take the 36.
The Rise doesn’t come with 38’s. You either have a Wild FS, 22kg, or a Rallon, 14 to 15-ish. I’m guessing the Rallon.
I’ve ridden then both with both forks. I prefer the 38, it is stiffer and normally is 170 whereas the 36 that comes with the bike is 160. Lighter riders might find the 38 tiring as it is stiffer. If there is a 38 on there I wouldn’t be thinking of changing.
If you do have a Rise, maybe 2nd hand or a custom build with the 38’s then I’d say that maybe it’s more suited to the 36’s at 150mm.
Hope it helps.
Edit. Rereading the title you definitely have an ebike!! I’m confused too. Rise is 17kg upwards (18,25 in enduro setup) and comes with 36’s not 38’s.
Small bump compliance shouldnt have qnyrhing to do with how stiff the fork chassis is or diqmeter of the stanchions. The complqints are feom people who havnt bothered to set their forks up properly.
Surely fatter legged forks are more subtle as "should" encounter less initial friction :/
Though they must be PLUSH!
38s / Zebs make sense to me for full fat ebikes, particularly if your are a heavier / more aggressive rider and / or ride a lot of rocky rough trails (parts of the peak for example. I swapped the lyric ultimate on my rail for a 38 and it definitely improved the ride and handling with being able to hold a line better through rough sto ugh and ultimately go faster. Now how much of that was down to bigger / stiffer chassis compared to different dampers example, I don’t know. However I was sold on them enough to make sure my new ebike had a 38 on it
I've got a (25kg) 180mm Kenevo with Lyriks and it's fine
So I assume it's a M-Team (150/140)
I got given my brothers old Trek with some 130mm Sektor forks on and they just bound up smashing through a rock garden first ride. I swapped out for the 36's off my HT and pulled the spacer from the shock so its now 160/150(ish) and it feels completely different. If anything the 36's feel much nicer on the heavy bike than the moderately heavy steel HT.
I'm something under 70kg ... and never found 35mm not stiff enough on a real bike and run some Lyrik ultimates on my FS with the Vorsprung coil ... for reference.
It also had almost no brakes.... MT200 with 180 front and rear... also quite scary. Its not got 4 pot and 223/203 and stops like a normal bike.
My FEELING is its not just total weight of you and bike but your inability to move that weight around.