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Duty for EU personal import - how do I appeal?

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Bought some stuff recently that I think should be zero-rated but has been charged

Anyone know what the appeal process (and correct web-page) is, by any chance ?


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 9:41 am
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Some points to consider:

1. Do you mean import from the EU to the UK?

2. Were the goods actually manufactured in the UK or was the country of origin, e.g. China?

3. Was all the paperwork 100% correct from the exporter (on your behalf as the importer)?

4. What makes you believe you were charged the wrong rate -i.e. are you certain you are right?

After that, you can have a battle with HMRC.  Beware, even if you succeed you won't automatically get any courier handling fee etc back.  I've not done it (a) as a private individual or (b) since Brexit - but the conclusion then was for the effort involved we wouldn't do it again unless it was four figure sums...


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 10:16 am
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Thanks

Some points to consider:

1. Do you mean import from the EU to the UK?  YES

2. Were the goods actually manufactured in the UK or was the country of origin, e.g. China?  NOT EU or UK manufactured

3. Was all the paperwork 100% correct from the exporter (on your behalf as the importer)?  Dunno yet - presumably that could form part of any appeal, though (?)

4. What makes you believe you were charged the wrong rate -i.e. are you certain you are right?  Not certain but I have found ststements on the gov pages that suggest it's zero

After that, you can have a battle with HMRC.  Beware, even if you succeed you won’t automatically get any courier handling fee etc back.  I’ve not done it (a) as a private individual or (b) since Brexit – but the conclusion then was for the effort involved we wouldn’t do it again unless it was four figure sums…
Yeah, it's a small amount so I'm not hugely invested (hoho) in the outcome; just thought I'd see what the process was and have a go (if it's free to appeal)

It's really the mechanics of how I battle with HMRC that I'm interested in - where's the form to complete, for example, as a lot of what I've seen appears to be for registered commercial importers


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 10:24 am
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Who has charged you?

The courier, Customs, or the seller?

How much?


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 10:29 am
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Courier levies the charge but already their info states that appeals are not through them but HMRC.  Helpfully, they avoid giving advice on where/how to do so


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 10:33 am
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it's ****-all in the scheme of things.  Just a minor point of principle really (plus a bit of personal interest)


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 10:34 am
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Do you mean duty or VAT?


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 10:40 am
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My recollection - which may be out of date now anyway was - you didn't formally appeal, you called them up, got passed from pillar to post and then if they understood your point there was a form to fill in.  We had an EORI number etc so process may be different for individual.

I think we did it twice - once we got some money the other time the exporter had completed the paperwork "wrong" and I was told thats tough luck.  If the goods are not UK/EU origin then the duty is calculated on the country of origin.

Do you like listening to hold music?


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 10:41 am
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What was the country of origin and tariff number used?


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 10:58 am
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I mean duty - expecting to pay VAT

Sent from Germany, made outside EU.  Don't know tariff number used as yet (though I know what I think it should be)

Do you like listening to hold music?

There are two quite popular songs that I cant stand to hear, though I don't even know what they are.  Both were used on rotation by Vodafone when I cancelled a contract

If it's true that poor description on the forms is a non-negotiable fail, then that may be it for me.  We'll see


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 11:14 am
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If made outside EU could be still be liable for duty dependent on country of origin.  What did you think the tariff number should have been?


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 11:17 am
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it's bike shoes

As far as I can find, that'd be one of

6403 1900 00
6404 1100 00
6402 1900 00

As I *understand* (and that may be an overstatement of the true picture) it, those would be zero.  I imagine they're made in China though, and I don't know how that alters the rules.


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 12:08 pm
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Right - this should make it really clear and simple: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-to-apply-for-a-repayment-of-import-duty-and-vat-if-youve-overpaid-c285. !!!

I think those codes have a tariff of 8-16% if made in China.
Without knowing the commodity code and country of origin on the declaration you are guessing.


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 12:33 pm
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Guess I'll wait for arrival & see what's been applied - I read yr linked stuff as 8%, poly, and it seems to be more than that from the courier charge but I'll wait for itemised paperwork

Thanks all


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 12:43 pm
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As Poly said 8-16% duty.   If you check HMRC trade tariff it will show the amount of duty due for each tariff number.


 
Posted : 24/05/2024 12:52 pm

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