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Having a pub conversation. If money / waiting times were no object, what SS (without EBB) should be considered. Ideally 29, but 26 an option, steel or Ti, able to race and with a change of a few bits also comfortable for 100mile Gravel Dash, able to tackle trail centres. Obviously there are compromises but wondered what would be on your lists. And unfortunately no One size fits all (they don't quite)..........


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 8:32 am
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Curtis XC29

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Posted : 09/03/2016 8:38 am
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Don't know if mine exists. Carbon or Aluminium for weight, swinging QR 135mm dropouts 29er set up for 120mm forks. HT2 threaded BB. Massive mud clearance. Internal hoses. Tapered headtube with two sets of forks. Full carbon and something with bounce. Set up at about 52".

Pipedream, cotic, transition, all city and a few others all make things that are close.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 8:48 am
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Having a pub conversation. If money / waiting times were no object, what SS (without EBB) should be considered....

Ragley TD-1

But I'd sooner have an EBB on it.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 8:52 am
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another one of these, but wth a truss fork and bull moose bars

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and something like this

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oooo and an oddity and Burnsey does make an exceedingly good bike

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the sheep may up for sale to pay for an oddity


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:05 am
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Do they still make Ragley TD-1 frames?????

EBB's are the work of the devil............


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:09 am
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Tazzy, I've always liked that bike, if you do decide to sell it and it fits me, I'd appreciate a look at it.....Are you / it at BOTB?


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:12 am
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I was going to say the same thing! Could be interested,


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:14 am
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Flashes, yep I am chap, will be with the sheep, satans very own special singular rooster for sams singualr display pile and probably the jones, if i'm feeling like a lazy bugger and cant be arsed with the pedal like a maniac bit (i.e. if I'm screamingly hung over!!)

😀


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:15 am
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I'll see you there then....................


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:17 am
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Given that I'm very happy on an inbred - then the same but ti and with fancy sliding dropouts - paragon or similar.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:21 am
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Given that I'm very happy on an inbred - then the same but ti and with fancy sliding dropouts - paragon or similar.

so something like a Torus then ?

nice frames, stonking price 😀


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:25 am
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Mmmmm, very nice. The mk2 looks spot on.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:35 am
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That Curtis is lovely - pretty happy with my Tranny though.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:38 am
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I like the look of the Torus (and love my inbred) but think it would be too XC for all day rides...........


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 10:03 am
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But I'd sooner have an EBB on it.

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Hardly a dream bike with a load of mechano bolted to the rear dropouts.

Something like Tazzy's Engin up there, but with a tapered headtube.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 10:11 am
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My dream SS is the one I own (sorry I'm not being deliberately STW)
Trek 69er.
Don't know why, and I certainly don't believe the "front wheel rolls over things, rear wheel accelerates up quickly" bollocks, but it just is lovely to ride.
Sorry, probably not what you are after looking at the Ti wonderment listed above.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 10:19 am
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loved my trek 69er, just kept destroying rear wheels as I have as much finesse as a chimp on PCP


 
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Money no object => Moonmen
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Stainless on an MTB seems like a daft idea; surely the tube walls are not thick enough to withstand rock strikes......

Agree with TINAS; the mechano looks shite. EBB or track ends.

How about it? http://www.shandcycles.com/bikes/bahookie-single/

http://www.strongframes.com/frames-and-pricing/mountain/


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 10:28 am
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A Moomen, Black Sheep, Ti Jones, Oddity. There's too many great bikes to choose from and not enough cash.

If it was just one then it would have to have a bit of bounce on the front. For pure hooliganism.

And no crabon fibber. Proper metal dug up out of the ground, not burnt toast and glue.


 
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After years of procrastinating I have my dream single-speeder too - Singular Swift.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 10:31 am
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I like the look of the Torus

My mate got one last year and went full Ti,forks,bars,stem and seat post.
It is a beautiful thing to ride and feels fantastic,it's like having invisible suspension.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 10:46 am
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I've had my dream SS for more years than I care to remember now (at least 15 I think).

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Posted : 09/03/2016 11:07 am
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One bad mofo, Nice......................


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 11:26 am
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SO many great framebuilders to look at. I'm on a Niner Sir at the moment which fits me like a glove. So my dream would be similar Geo, 44mm headtube, BlackCat dropouts (or perhaps Salsa dropouts) in Ti. Enough clearance to run 650b+ too would be nice.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 11:26 am
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I'd take Jonba's specs (in steel) to Jason English, add the travel rear end and let him go nuts


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 11:28 am
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Probably not a dream bike, but my Love/Hate w/EBB has been an excellent SS.

Now sporting an Alfine 11


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 11:31 am
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on a dreambike SS type thingy, a mate is selling is full jones space frame with loads of chris king and bling on it, fat front and skinny front wheel etc.. for a very very good price indeedy.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 11:46 am
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Taz.

I was about to post the same thing.

If only I had the cash? How much does a kidney go for around these parts?


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 11:51 am
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pretty happy with my Tranny though

I was on the verge of getting one of these at the time. It's a shame they made the *updated* 29er version so short and so damned ugly


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 11:51 am
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bigblackshed, I understand James, will take a regular monthly payment, so if you offer him various body parts that he can sell on the black market, you may just about end up with at least a couple of thigh stumps left to reach the pedals and maybe half a lung.....but you will have a lovely bike 😀


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 11:58 am
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For me it would have to be a 2Souls QuarterHorse in Ti with sliding dropouts http://www.2soulscycles.com/index.php/products/quarterhorse-ti .A 120mm Sid with h/b lock out,mostly Hope components & the carbon kevlar rims from http://www.blueflowbikes.com/ I think I would have to remortgage the house though.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 12:07 pm
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Curtis XC10, track drop outs, custom geo (longer TT, shorter ST, 69.5HA).

Missed the boat for this winter, will be ordering ready for next


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 12:33 pm
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Taz.

It did cross my mind to sell my body for naughty times, once I could probably cope with, don't knock 'til you've tried it, etc. But 1600 times plus tips?

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Posted : 09/03/2016 12:43 pm
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In stw fashion
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It's not ss specific but then nor am I so it suits me pretty well, for big days in big hills I still want gears and is an easy change.

I must get round to changing the cranks back to the nice carbon rf ones though and replacing the qr.


 
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Hmm, yeah maybe something like that Curtis in aesthetics, but I think I'd be tempted to go 650b. Lefty carbon up front, perhaps some bling King hubs


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 1:23 pm
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Do they still make Ragley TD-1 frames?????

No, but money/waiting times were no object.

Or ask Lynskey to knock one up - better ask Brant first though.


 
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Do they still make Ragley TD-1 frames?????

No, but money/waiting times were no object.

Or ask Lynskey to knock one up - better ask Brant first though.

I'm sure [url= http://pactbikes.com/ ]PACT Bikes[/url] could oblige.

I'm hoping for a Sonder TD-1-a-like, in aluminium. I did 100 miles round Kielder and 60 miles at Hit The North on one and loved it.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 2:02 pm
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Hi tazzymtb,please ask your mate to send me details of his Jones.
jeffbushi@yahoo.co.uk
Cheers
Jeff


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 2:04 pm
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Adsh, do you mean Curtis S1 SuperMoto, oooo they make a 29er version too...........


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 3:26 pm
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Tazzy,
I'd be interested in the Jones andy04665@hotmail.com
cheers


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 3:36 pm
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Adsh, do you mean Curtis S1 SuperMoto, oooo they make a 29er version too..........

Well yes and no. It'll be a straight copy of my XC9 (which was custom geo based on my Whyte 29C) but with track dropouts. Not sure what that makes it but the idea is to keep on riding off road next winter.

Though I may start in the summer as I'm getting a bit bored of geared riding


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 3:43 pm
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Hmm, yeah maybe something like that Curtis in aesthetics, but I think I'd be tempted to go 650b. Lefty carbon up front, perhaps some bling King hubs

Lefty you say.... how about a double righty? 🙂

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Why are EBB's the work of the Devil?

I love the look of Singular bikes, bought this frame off a fellow STW'er, Pic prior to me getting some less flexy carbon forks & black stem.

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I thought the ones on my Jones and Stooge, although different were a pain. I like trackends, they work, they're simples and I do like the uncluttered look....IMHO.....


 
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+1 never understood the problems people have with trackends.


 
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Tazzy.
I can't believe you've still got the Sheep...
Designed by a retard and must be the only one that's not broken yet.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:38 pm
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Stu, there's f-ing loads in the BPR tribe that have lasted years with no problems. Youre just too fat for skinny ti 😉


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:40 pm
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there's f-ing loads in the [s]BPR[/s]light weight mincers tribe

😛
One of these days I'll post up the pics of all cracked Ti I've owned. 😥


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:49 pm
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+1 never understood the problems people have with trackends.

The problem with trackends is the extra time aligning the wheel and then resetting the disk alignment. Too much faff, especially when the bike is thick with mud.

That's not a problem with a fixie or SS road bike.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:51 pm
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I love my Trek Superfly ss. Alu but comfy, but pf so dos the fit your criteria. Sliding dropouts though and comes with nice 15mm Carbon fork.


 
Posted : 09/03/2016 9:54 pm
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My dream SS is the one I own

Mine too. One of the great things about SS is that you can build a very nice bike for relatively low money (especially if riding rigid too)

Maybe I just have small dreams but a Ti framed bike with good quality components (Thomson, Hope, XT etc,.) and a weight of 8KG does it for me.

Also like EBBs if you get one that works well and the Bushnell light I am using has been faultless while keep the dropout aesthetically pleasing.


 
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I'd like my old one back but a size bigger, still have the nice bits off it so fingers crossed an xl shows up soon!

Cheap and heavy frame and fork but just the most fun bike for a blast round local trail centre stuff and exploring with the kids on holiday

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my son already has his dream ss, an adult version would be cool!

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I've still got this frame too so maybe do a 650b rebuild some time

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My lad is on the same Commencal now, loves it


 
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+1 never understood the problems people have with trackends.

I don't dislike them, they're just the least user friendly solution, either requiring tug-nuts or something to stop the wheel moving forwards. OTOH they are the lightet by far.

Paragon/Salsa/whyte/whatever with sliding/swinging dropouts are an improvement, but add clutter.

An EBB is nigh on invisible, works, and allows for a smaller, neater, stronger dropout. But is probably among the heaviest options, unless someone comes out and makes a composite version of the phill wood (I reckon it's possible, even in something simple like injection molded reinforced nylon).

TBH, tensioners aren't half as bad as some of the more intricate solutions, they allow quick gearing changes, don't alter the geometry, no tools required, etc.


 
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they're just the least user friendly solution

don't seem to have any trouble using a hope bolt up axle no slippage and simple to use.


 
Posted : 10/03/2016 11:27 am
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Ti El Marachii could fit nearly all the boxes - if they hadn't given it that half/half gack paint job.
The custom longer TT, lower BB version Salsa did for Kurt Refsnider for the TD back in 2011 (??) was most excellent.

For me, it'd pretty much be the geom of the El Mar. but with a slightly longer TT and an EBB.


 
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don't seem to have any trouble using a hope bolt up axle no slippage and simple to use.

Requires 2 allen keys to remove the wheel, compared to a QR on any other design?

I didn't say it was insurmountable, I said least user friendly.


 
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this was my dream SS for ages, scandy-yummy and carbon with a lovely geometry and lighter than a fairies fart. Went up hill like a monkey with it bum on fire..and with as much yammering and howling from me.

It only went to fund my Ti habit.


 
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Would have to be a Oddity.
They are simply lovely.


 
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Requires 2 allen keys to remove the wheel, compared to a QR on any other design?

nope requires one allen key and I'm already carrying that. are there any tool free ecbb's ?


 
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tazzymtb - a friend has two Selmas, they are flipping ace.


 
Posted : 10/03/2016 2:41 pm
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I'm going trackends as I want light and simple and it worked well on my Simple. Means carrying a cut off spanner for the tug but I didn't have any slippage or have to realign the caliper.

I'm sensitive to seat height.


 
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I like trackends, they work, they're simples and I do like the uncluttered look..

nothing as uncluttered as a standard rear dropout, that's why EBB's are ace, i'll agree they are not all created equal but the Phil Wood on my Swift is ace

i wish my travis brown trek 69er hadn't been nicked, had only just got it to my liking and hadn't ridden it much 🙁


 
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GregMay- totally, definitely my fastest race SS by some margin and yet somehow the carbon flex wishbone in the rear took enough sting out of it to still have a spine left 😀


 
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...I'm sensitive to seat height.

I can understand that on a road fixie, but on a SS MTB you don't spend that much time in the saddle.


 
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nope requires one allen key and I'm already carrying that. are there any tool free ecbb's ?

Nope, but you don't need to move the EBB to fix a puncture. Likewise swinging/sliding dropouts.

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...I'm sensitive to seat height.

An EBB moves it about 10mm at the extremes, some only move it about 5mm (and need a half link), but you only set it once, after that you're moving it ~1mm over the life of a chain to take up the slack.


 
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Unless you want to change the nice WI freewheel in which case your brand new chain is slightly too short, so you have to buy another chain, but it's the Friday before you're going on an away day on the Saturday. So luckily you have a spare Fatbike (with proper trackends), so you can ride after all...........


 
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I was lucky enough to have had my Talbot built last year. Just love this thing.

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Van Dessel WTF. it has an EBB, but it also is massively adaptable and has great mud clearance. That's what I'm planning to get when i finally get myself a job.


 
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I built mine :), next to my daughters future steed aswell 🙂
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Van Dessel WTF. it has an EBB, but it also is massively adaptable and has great mud clearance. That's what I'm planning to get when i finally get myself a job.

Good luck trying to get one in the uk, was in touch with them last week and at the moment they arent sure i can get one in the uk ??


 
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Definitly not wrong with those bikes from Oddity:

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I quite like the look of that Greg, perusing their site they look to be trying to out-jones Jeff Jones on some of their bikes...

I really liked this:

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Seatstays swept into twin top tubes Mmmmm... Nice.
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I think he's got some interesting ideas with introducing flex - good flex at that 🙂

Also, the reverse etched graphic are making me come over all funny. So nice.


 
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Mr Burns builds some gorgeous steel oddities as well, and for a good price, and he's a righteous dude which helps 😀


 
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Halt!...You jumped zee red light.

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This was mine, wish I'd never sold it...

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Here's mine - speed not comfort....

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