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Well I have recently decided I want myself a nice mountain bike, after buying a road bike, I am keeping the road bike as recommended.
My new plan is to have both, so here are my questions:
I am looking for dual suspension bike good for trails and downhill riding, I would like it to be around 1500-2000 new. But I am also planning to buy second hand, so a common bike selling second hand would be good, I need a small frame (I am around 5ft 6)
Anyone got suggestions as I am finding it hard to find a suitable second hand bike in my price range, which second hand is around £800-£1000
Cheers for any help
More freeridey perhaps but supposed to be excellent for DH riding anyway...
[url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/kona-entourage-suspension-bike-2012/rp-prod95371 ]http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/kona-entourage-suspension-bike-2012/rp-prod95371[/url]
This might be a better all rounder. No personal knowledge/experience of the brand or the bike myself but the reviews are favourable 🙂
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/beone-moko-160-full-suspension-bike/rp-prod59253
Look for a S/H Nukeproof Mega - bulletproof and built burly and not that expensive
Have a look at Scott Volatage, good bike and plenty to upgrade as/when you can.
Bike from YT Industries and canyon look v good value.
Commencal have an outlet / ex-demo online store - bought a Supreme Mini DH, with 180 coil and 180 bombers as good as new for less than £1k about 9 months ago.
If it were my money I'd be looking at a [url= http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes/series/torque-frx.html ]Torque FRX[/url] as a pure DH bike or a [url= http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes/series/torque-ex.html ]Torque EX[/url] as a DH/Trail bike.
I love the nukeproof but the price and fact there will never be a small one on sale second hand.
The Kona entourage and the scott voltage
which of these will handle the rougher stuff better as they look very similar?
I am really liking the kona, would this be the best choice?
It looks fantastic for the price
Didn't we decide on your other thread that listening to others isn't necessarily the best thing?
What do[b] you[/b] want? Have a browse round, read reviews, demo bikes, make a shortlist, then ask for recommendations from your list....
tomhoward- That may be the way for most enthusiasts, But I am b*oody terrible at picking things like this. Which is why I am asking for suggestions based on a specification. So I just don't make a completely wrong decission like getting a road bike again.
Not only that but living in Devon in a lil seaside town is useless for trying bikes out, nearest shop is hours away in Bristol.
The entourage is a very good bike for the money. Climbs surprisingly well but is a joy downhill. It doesn't complete sanitise the rough stuff, it has a lively feel but corners beautifully. Well built and good spec. Don't think you'd be unhappy with it.
Yh I think i will look at for a second hand selling then.
The reviews seem great and some of the videos testing it are exactly what I want to put it through.
Are you sure you want a downhill bike? They're great at the one job they do but pretty limited- you said "good for trails and downhill", the only thing that's good at those 2 is a good trailbike really.
You can take a modern 160mm bike and have a great time at a downhill venue (I've ridden my hemlock more than my 224 at innerleithen, and raced it at fort bill, very unsuccesfully 😉 ) But it's very hard to have a good time anywhere else on a dh bike.
Northwind- If I could I would get a nice Hardtail and a Downhill Bike, but I aint got that kind of money, the downhill aspect is with out a doubt the most important to me, I want to be getting good air and landing smoothly and have the peace of mind that I shouldn't have to rough a ride.
The only other option I was looking at was getting a Charge Blender which apparently is pretty good for the both. It is certainly a dilemma.
Wow . . . not a single second hand Kona entourage on sale, let alone a small one in good condition
You'd be amazed how good big trail/enduro/all mountain bikes are these days tbh. And the bottom line is, there's hardly anything that can't be done on a good, normal bike- and the stuff that can't be, well, you'll probably not be doing it anyway as it is properly mental. But a sensibly specced 150/160mm bike is up for pretty much anything. Not as fast as a full dh bike but still.
For jumping and the like, a dh bike is brilliant at landing but they're not that good at taking off- hefty, less agile, but also all the human input of weight movement etc ends up fighting against 8 inches of suspension.
But like I say- a full dh bike fundamentally sucks balls at anything that isn't being a dh bike. You've got some really good uplift venues down there but is that really all your mountain biking will be? Not that likely.
Northwind is right. A DH bike is a sole use item, I wouldn't consider riding one (particularly a cheapish one) on anything other than a proper DH trail. A 160mm bike will be very very capable and still go uphill well.
There was a small knolly endorphin frame for sale on here recently for about £450. That thing will f*** along downhill.
Well could you possibly recommend a few just to give me a better idea of the kind you mean?
Wrecker- I would love to build my own set up, but quite frankly i dont know what i need or how to so its kind of out of the question
Also bear in mind the venues around my area are Brecon Beacons a lil drive away, Dartomorr cycling/ Gawton downhill etc
mattamomo - MemberWell could you possibly recommend a few just to give me a better idea of the kind you mean?
Just a Normal Everyday Bike. Orange Five or Alpine (depending on how you want to bias it, Five better every day, Alpine better at downhill), Zesty or Spicy (same split). Foxy R, Enduro, etc etc. Something that'll pedal but still take a kicking.
Torque FRX down to £1,500-ish at Canyon. I love mine and its insane value
Wrecker- I would love to build my own set up, but quite frankly i dont know what i need or how to so its kind of out of the question
There is bags of info on the web; Shelton brown, park tools, and plenty of folk on here to help. You don't need a multitude of tools and it honestly isn't hard. Most quite enjoy it and it gives you a great understanding of how the bike works.
You could look at burlier bikes such as nomads, froggies, alpine 160s etc but that knolly with some 160mm forks would go like a train.
I'm happy on DH blacks on my 140/160mm blur ltc. I won't be the quickest but I can ride to the top on it!
Wrecker- where could i find a complete list of components to build a bike?
Also would i be able to put one together under 1k?
Possibly with some smart shopping. The classifieds here are great.
Parts;
Frame
Headset (check for correct size)
Forks (check for steerer size)
Stem
Handlebars
Shifters & cables
Grips
Wheels/tyres
Seat post
Seat collar
Saddle
Front and rear mechs
Chainset & bottom bracket
Chain
Cassette
Pedals
Brakes & rotors
That's about it!
Get a second hand Santa Cruz Bullit. Perfect bike based on what you describe.
You might be able to knock this chap down a wee bit;
http://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/1426700/
Never realised there was so many options, gonna have to rethink all of this.
i would like to take on building a bike as a project
Go for it!
You can spread the cost a bit and its very satisfying.
The people on this site are immensely helpful, don't be scared to ask for advice.
Dartmoor cycles in tavistock have a few hire bikes and I think Andy is selling off a gt distortion for a good price at the moment.
I think i will see what i can put together, will have to wait till college has slowed down a bit but will make sure i get advice along the way.
I had a giant glory but as many people say they're only good at one thing. I am no racer but I'm no mincer either and I'm actually faster time wise on my 160 bike. For £1000 you'd build a really nice pitch - a sweet all round bike IMO
Second the santa cruz bullit, thats what i have as my DH bike, not that its been DH for the last 5 years since i last hit the alps! Still its there ready in the fleet for when the opportunity arises, probably worth 600 quid if i flogged it on eBay
Wow . . . not a single second hand Kona entourage on sale, let alone a small one in good condition
My point was that it is stunning value at CRC - cheaper than people would be asking secondhand - apologies if over budget though, didn;t realise you were a college student.
It all boils down to whether you want to ride up hills or not really?
Chakaping- Sorry if you thought that comment was aimed at you, i was simply expressing how frustrating it was that there was no second hand one on sale when i really wanted it.
And yes the price is incredible at over half price, but yh as i said i am not in a position where i can go over budget