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[Closed] Don't have a torque wrench so how tight - in effort - is 50ft lbs?

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Does 50 ft lbs mean really tight? I'm tightening a base nut on some fox forks and not sure , in the abscence of said torque wrench, how much pressure to apply on the spanner.


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:23 pm
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3.5 white knuckles


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:25 pm
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It's pretty bloody tight, think old square taper crank bolts. The footnut in question, I tend to tighten as much as I dare and it's still not as tight as the spec suggests.


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:26 pm
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Square taper crank torque would snap the base of the damper/spring clean off - and I would know!


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:27 pm
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Are you sure it isn't inch pounds?


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:27 pm
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50ft lbs is not that tight. Most humans can apply this without to much effort


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:28 pm
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Real easy to snap the aluminium damper rod on a Fox fork by overtightening - be careful


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:28 pm
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hhmmm I was thinking 50Nm. 3.5 white knuckles is still correct though


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:29 pm
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go and press on your bathroom scales at 22kg. this is how much you need to press if the ratchet is 300mm long


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:29 pm
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The torque is 51IN/lbs not 51ft and it's not as tight as you'd think!
( assuming of course your tightening up the nuts on the bottom of the fork legs)


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:34 pm
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Just between hhhhhrgh and heeeeeargh.


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:35 pm
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That's 5.76nm, or, "barely tight at all"


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:36 pm
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http://sheldonbrown.com/tork-grip.html

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Posted : 16/04/2014 7:41 pm
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Not that tight really,hand/finger tight with a 3 inch lever ie the usual size allan key.Just enough to squash the plastic washer a bit.
I broke a Fox footnut easily 😳 Expensive lesson,prompting purchase of a torque wrench.


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:43 pm
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The old skool method (sounds like some here have tried it) it to tighten it until it snaps, then back it off half a turn.


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 7:48 pm
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51N/lbs!?

51Nm is about 5 kilos at 1m or 16kg at your 300mm


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 8:02 pm
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FFS 51nm you'll trash the fork it's 5.6nm as above enough to start to crush the crush washer and no more.


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 8:16 pm
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set your bathroom scales to lbs and push on them to gauge how much force 50lbs feels like. Now use a 1 ft long spanner on your nut and apply the same force as you did the scales on the end of it, and hey presto 50ft/lbs. Its really that simple 😀

you can guess how 50Inch/lbs works now cant you!

guessing i dont need to explain newton meters? 😆


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 8:16 pm
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Nnnnngh


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 8:16 pm
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5.6 is about the same as a lot of stems. But then most over tighten those too
Thick doing somthing up tight with a screw driver


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 9:15 pm
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I don't mean to condescend, but you know that 50 ft lbs is a weight of 50lbs on the end of a foot-long bar? Or a 1 lb at 50 feet. You get the idea. Obviously inch lbs is a more realistic unit for most bike applications - or preferably Nm*.

You can usually work out, therefore, approximately how much force you need to use.

* Likewise, 1 Nm is a force of one Newton at 1 metre. Ten Newtons ~ 1kg, so 1Nm is a 1 kg mass (E.g. a bag of sugar) at 10cm.


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 9:23 pm
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surely it's about as tight as you feel when you suddenly realise you agree with something Hora said????


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 9:26 pm
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Imagine lifting a cocker spaniel above your head and holding for 4 seconds , and you're about right.


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 9:30 pm
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5'n' s

as in

nnnnn

that tight.


 
Posted : 16/04/2014 9:31 pm

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