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Been on my 'to do' list for ages, I've run out of excuses, so I'm doing it tomorrow. Going east. There's a nice westerly to push me along. I've got the route on my Garmin, including all taps as waypoints, the locations are also taped to my top tube as a reminder, along with a lot of gels.
Despite living about 15 miles away I really don't know the route, I've done bits, but only bits. Any particular tips? Things to watch out for etc. I'm assuming it's dry and fast... I've fitted more robust tyres than my usual Rocket Rons or Thunder Burts.
I'd take the others off and put the Thunder Burts back on! 😀
Keep eating. You know that. Don't forget to stop in Alfriston for pastry goods at the deli. Guzzle as much as you can at the taps before you refill and you'll probably be OK with one bottle. And get to the next tap with most of a bottle left, if you're like me!
Look at the scenery.
Got a target time in mind?
keep pedalling. dont start too fast. enjoy it.
keep an eye out for direction arrows. some are not obvious when you are knackered etc.
Got a target time in mind?
10 hours is the bottom line aim (with stops etc), I'd be over the moon with 9, but I've not ridden for that long for 6 years, so firmly uncharted territory!
I've put some Bontrager XR1s on, which should still be pretty quick. If I had Snakeskin Burts I'd use those.
keep an eye out for direction arrows. some are not obvious when you are knackered etc.
Great, thanks. Hoping the GPS will minimise that, but navigating and riding is a rarity for me!
My SDWiaD ride last year was pants so here's my write up from the year before; - [url= http://www.egcc.net/south-downs-way-in-a-day/ ]http://www.egcc.net/south-downs-way-in-a-day/[/url]
I wear a Camelbak Mule for the water and take a 500ml on the bike (just in case).
Defo recommend some savoury food for variety as I find you can only eat so many gels and energy bars.
Enjoy and I'll stalk you on Strava
Haha! Dammit, I'd better not fail now Mike!
Was gonna make a couple of small sandwiches for variety!
Aaah, best of luck, Nick. Hope it goes well and you enjoy the journey. Will look forward to hearing the story, and seeing you tired, at Mayhem this weekend. Ashley
Ace. Have fun. A couple more:
Take some time before-hand to make sure that you've got a GPS route that's 100% spot on.
Make sure you've got enough charge in your battery to last 10+ hours - or a spare battery to charge from (eg http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Generation-Lipstick-Sized-Portable-Technology-Black/dp/B005QI1A8C )
Make sure you've got the off-course chirrup turned on - as above, couple of turnings are easy to miss.
Don't be put off by the fact that the finger-post colour-code for the SDW keeps changing.
You'll obviously want average speed biggest on your screen. Elevation's handy too, for morale management - if you know you're only at 170m, it won't be a surprise to find out that there's more climbing round that corner/over that brow.
Second/3rd the sarnies. cheese, sweetcorn and a slathering of mayo works for me. plus bread, obvs.
😀
A man of your calibre will be fine. 8)
There's a few variations on the routes, in particular starting with the Beacon Hill - Old Winchester hill section. On my Strava route above I took the 'new' route.
Back in 2009 I did the old route - [url= https://www.strava.com/activities/13331324 ]https://www.strava.com/activities/13331324[/url] - Shows how popular Strava now is when I went from 6th on one climb to 115th!
Don't miss the sharp right turn on Blackcap, just after Ditchling Beacon.
You have to stop for a gate anyway, but it's easy to go through the gate and straight on (towards Lewes) which is wrong.
Finish is now at foot of Beachy Head. Mini pork pies ftw
Great, thanks everyone!
GPX route is from a friend who did it last year, so should be pretty accurate. I've got it with turn by turn too, so hopefully much chirruping and what not should happen. Got an external battery, so all good on that front, should last the distance, I hope!
Planning to go for the map as the default screen, just with average speed and distance on it, I'm not entirely sure I want to look at elevation, particularly knowing the biggest hills come at the end!
Will look forward to hearing the story, and seeing you tired, at Mayhem this weekend
Annoyingly I can't make it this year Ashley, looks like it'll be another scorcher though, gutted!
njee20 - Jacqui (my mrs) rode it last weekend with her girlfriend. Between them they only got lost once with a paper map and a basic garmin 200 with a half arsed route loaded. Don't forget to look up at the signs and you'll be fine. 🙂
I'm not being sexist, just that Jacqui and her friend are notorious chatter boxes on the bike and would easily ride straight past turning that they ride every week!
I'd go with tough tyre walls and a fast rolling tread for dry weather. Keep pedalling.
I've done it 16 times since Dec14 and whilst a lot of my training was during the Winter it still ran fast, no need for big rubber. Did it all oon the CX'er, put Limus on during the wet season and then back to Griffo's for Spring.
I'd second drinking loads then top the bottle/camelbak (what ever you are using) when you can. Eating is such a personal thing, me I'm a Tuna Mayo Pitta fanbouy and works for me.
Don't be lulled into thinking the segment from Winny to QECP is typical, it gets bumpyer from then on. Watch out for roots and large half hidden boulders for pinchflats. Gravel sections are slow so pace down for them. Best bit ? Grafham through Stenying for me.. hack along the top and watch the view unfold. Also the bit around Lewes... I don't care much for the Brighton section.. The gates can be a PITA and come up fast so get used to stop/start and the mentality focus around that.
It's a great ride, enjoy it, ride light and fast like you weren't even on it.
Then let us know what you thought of it..
8)
Awesome, ta! I'm quite excited now!
It's pretty easy to follow and well marked - I did it and only lost my way once - and I wasn't at all familiar with any of the route being from Scotland.
Funnily enough the hills don't seem so bad as you quickly get a break on the other side.
The gates eat away your time, and that compounded by a couple of mechanical and lunch meant I ended up running out of daylight so keep moving.
Good day out - it is weirdly repetitive though.
hated it when i did it
Saw and spoke to one of the sexiest women i have ever had the pleasure of meeting though whilst on it. Good luck!
Been on my 'to do' list for ages, I've run out of excuses, so I'm doing it tomorrow.
😀
I wonder how many people have been worn down to doing the lot in a day, rather than working up to it? I'd done it a few times with friends over 2 and 3 days, and always said that was the best way of doing it, more relaxed, more friends wanting to join etc. etc.
Mate Jim kept listening to that^ and said: "Yes, but I'm thinking about the lot in a day; you're thinking about it too, and if we did it, we could stop thinking about it."
Didn't have a reply to that!
Half the reason I'd always put it off was the logistics, but then a few folk said they'd take me to Winchester/pick me up from Eastbourne, so I thought I'd do it.
Then when I said Wednesday not a one of them could do it, but I already really fancied it, so just leaving the car in Winchester, train home from Eastbourne, and fetching the car on Thursday!
Should be a perfect day for it. You do not want full sun!
The Pilot Inn 1min from the end is good for a pie and pint.
Got a similar challenge coming up with the trans cambrain way in 4 weeks. Good luck.
If you are still on course on Saturday, I'll watch ouut for you..... I'm doing it as a single this time. Best bits are from the top of Cocking Down to the Arun river and at the top of Firle as you know you are nearly done by then.
The climb on the tarmac up to the YHA is the dullest bit - remember to look northwards to pass the time, though if 10 hours is your goal and you are not sure of the way, there won't be much time to look up from the gps!
Its awesome up there (and free!)
Bikebuoy you're a nutter but big props to you 8)
I've personally had faster / nicer rides on my full sussers and I'm not sure I'd be able to cope with the battering of a CX.
Views wise (subject to weather)
Temple valley as you cross the A272 after Chilcomb
Butser descent
Across the Arun valley coming down to Amberley
Turn round at the sty gates above Chantry lane and look back at Arundel Castle
View across the Adur Valley
Black Cap
Views from Itfold Hill (takes your mind off the climb)
Heading across Ebo golf course
The run down to the end at St Bedes
mol - TCW looks amazing! Finishes close to my wifes bro and family, too! I'm already hatching a plan.
Let us know how it was and post and some pics? 🙂
Look forward to seeing this on Strava.
Was meant to be doing this on the 4th, as part of the Wiggle Sportive, but i'm away now so can't make it.
Let us know how it was and post and some pics?
Yeah alright.. I'll note it down as fodder for my nascent blog.
Oh yeah, when you get to Firle after the never ending climb from Southease, that town nestling by the sea over your right shoulder ISN'T Eastbourne 😉
richardthird
Oh yeah, when you get to Firle after the never ending climb from Southease, that town nestling by the sea over your right shoulder ISN'T Eastbourne
Yeah after Itfold you just have the Bo Peep drag, bottom climb out of Alfriston, Windover Hill, the Jevington climb and then you're done! 😈
Good luck Nick!
Going West to East, halfway distance is probably a bit less than halfway in terms of time/effort - the hills come thicker and faster in the second half.
Well I've ruined the bike in anticipation!
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Excellent work, that looks ridiculous!
Hope you've got a backpack to carry some pies though?
Have you ridden with the gels like that before? Last time I tried more than about 3 they were flapping all over the place and cutting my knees up! Worth a try out before you head out....
Think the trickiest aspect if you've not done it before and are after sub 10 is navigation...its not difficult but when pushing on its easy to miss signs or worry that you're not on track causing you to slow (you can end up in the right direction but the wrong side of a fence!). Richardthird mentioned the one soon after Ditchling which is a classic.
Personally i prefer water bottles only as distance between taps isn't that great although they can be easy to miss at speed so take care
...im sure you'll be fine though. Good luck...have a good one 😀
Nick those gels are going to be a ball ache of the highest order ([i]and possibly literally)[/i] 😆
Took it for a spin earlier, and no ill effects from all the gels, if they flap around too much I'll move/eat them, they'll go up my short leg, but easier to start with them there. Good shout though, hopefully be ok...
Nick
Rode 50m of it on sunday . Binned it on some slippery chalk and cut myself up, so carried on for another 40miles. Should be dry as a bone and perfect conditions .my 2p's worth.
Suntan cream .- Its open and exposed on the tops
Gates , dont bash them with your front wheel. Friendly farmers occaisionaly wrap barbed wire round them. Also as you approach look for the hinges , the lock will be opposite side . Do not let the gate swing back into your mech... alot of the springs are very strong.
Toilet at Truleigh hill is useful and tap and bench for 10 mins stop.
Tap at QECP is next to the back door of the office and is first after Winch.
Take a few High5 zero tabs of different flavours as you will consume alot of water . I carried and emergency supply of toilet paper just in case the gels went horribly wrong , but I was fine in the end.
Try and find a friendly yocal at the other end to hold your bike whilst you purchace every pie in the pie shop.
As you have GPS navigation wont be an issue , just keep an eye open for grapefruit sized flints in the gulleys.
Should be a great day for it.
I reckon Lewes is halfway in terms of effort .
What time are you leaving Winch ?
Good man, thanks Rob. Sun cream and bog roll are good shouts!
Probably be about 7:30ish by the time I've driven over.
My wifes walking the section between Grafham and Stenying with her best mate tomorrow and Thursday. As I type she's frantically packing 😆
She's been planning it for about 3 mths 😆
Don't run her over, she's quite a nice person all told.
Enjoy it.
And yes the CX'er is quite a hard ride but over the practice I've done my shoulders and back are now used to it.. everyone will comment on tyres and pressures, but hey.. pump em' up so they don't pinch flat and you'll be fine.
Look Up too.
I have no tips as I've not done and don't think I could, but just thought I'd say good luck.
Not that I think you'll need it for one minute 😀
Good luck, I'll wave when I think you're passing Hove:)
All good wishes are appreciated, I think I will need it, even if it's an incredibly mediocre achievement compared to many on here!
good luck for it - I'm hoping to finally get round to doing it (the single) this year...
(I'm very jealous, I guess it's probably riding quite well at the moment).
Be good to read up on how you got on... keep us posted!
Good luck for tomorrow
I would get to bed now, and aim for 0700 start. The train back ( I went via Clapham ) is a smelly crampfest so try and grab a seat by the bike /bog section.
I expect a lengthy write up within 48hrs . If it all comes together its a cracking day out. I wish I had done it sunday when R1 had their 'Rock' day . turn it up to 11 and bonk at 2/3 like my last attempt
Good luck! Was on my too do list this year....
Good luck boss, not that you'll need it!
Wow good luck, and enjoy!
Can you hear his teeth rattling ?
He should be 1 1/2hrs into it, I wonder how many of those Gels' he's gotten through 😆
And if he's bumped into my Wife yet 😯
A nice gentle westerly breeze too, after a few days of easterly!
Well if my Mrs is to believed they've seen him go past and her text just now was... he is very fit.
Now clearly it might have not been him, could have been another bloke doing it..
So it's either a 😯
or a 😆
or divorce 😛
Yeah nicely overcast and a decent tail wind. #simples
3 times I've got the train to Winchester to start, it's meant a 5:30 train from home and then 2 hours of travelling 🙄
njee20 is a pretty handy cyclist for those who haven't ridden with him!
I'm doing it on Sat. with a friend on CX bikes so taking a keen interest in all this...
I too am planning a sub 10hr attempt at this in the next few weeks so will be very interested to see how Njee gets on. In the knowledge that I'm not really at that level. Having ridden it a few times and various sections many times I luckily don't have the navigational concerns. Here's hoping he does a sub 9hr which will make me feel infinitely better about my attempt.
Shall we all shout out together,
1..
2...
3.....
EAT SOMETHING DAMN IT !!!
😆
I think one of my legs weighs more than Nick. He's a racing Whippet and no mistake.
Just had a flick through my previous SDWiaD rides
12/8/06 12:30 elapsed. Ride with a group
21/6/08 9:45 wheels turning. Ride with same guys
25/7/09 12:36 elapsed. Ebo - Winc overnight solo SDD attempt (FAIL!)
15/8/09 10:47 elapsed. Ebo - Winc overnight solo SDD attempt. Bailed after 129 miles / 15 hours / Cocking
30/7/11 5:52 fastest Winc - Devils Dyke solo + bumped into DaisyDuke from here doing his puncture fest SDD
13/8/11 12:20 elapsed. Ride with 4 others
20/7/13 9:48 elapsed solo
19/7/14 11:47 elapsed. Ride with two others
Take aways
1 I'm a lazy flucker with no mental strength but faster on my own
2 group rides [u]always[/u] introduce more variables and stops
3 I've never had any punctures!
4 levels of preparation make a big difference. My 1st SDD attempt was an utter train wreck. 2 weeks later and I flew (relatively speaking)
Bikebouy
could you share your ride thoughts / diary so that us mere mortals can learn some hints and tips?
Cloudy my arse, the middle section was horrific, I got cooked! Weird mist in Eastbourne too.
9:25 all in, 9 hours 17 seconds moving time. A few silly navigational errors, I managed to go off course completely between Harting and Cocking, but pulled it back, only added half a mile or so. Got confused at QECP too, could only see the Butser direction signed.
The climb up to Truleigh YHA nearly killed me, was fairly sure a dog walker would pass me!
I drunk 10 bottles of High 5 (I think), ate 9 gels, a packet of wine gums and a small cheese sandwich. Felt alright actually.
Not sure if I enjoyed it or not, parts of it are great, but parts are really really slow! Alfriston was horrible!
Bikebuoy I did see lots of pairs of walkers, so it's entirely possible! I didn't ask if any were your wife, for fear of a grave misunderstanding!
Edit: actually, moving was slightly quicker than that, as I left it running on the way to the station to get the 100 miles! More like 8:58
Nice one!
Good time, but the ratio of moving to stopped time is really impressive!
And where'd you get 10 bottles of high5 from?
😯I drunk 10 bottles of High 5 (I think), ate 9 gels, a packet of wine gums and [b]shat out half my bodyweight somewhere near the devil's dyke[/b]
2 bottles on bike, pockets stuffed full of individual servings in sandwich bags!
I drunk 10 bottles of High 5 (I think), ate 9 gels, a packet of wine gums and shat out half my bodyweight somewhere near the devil's dyke
Nope! Had a pee at QE, and that was it!
Only just spotted the wine gums, that was a big mistake, a packet of fruit pastilles and you'll have been significantly faster! 😆
Harder to chew though!
I committed the cardinal sin it seems, I dropped a gel wrapper! I think I know where too, and I'd just passed two guys who'll now think I'm one of 'those people'!
Well done. No excuse not to race longer now! Any psychologicaly weak moments?
Yeah a couple of lows, nothing horrendous. I had the distances to all the taps written down on my stem, so just chunked it up like that. The bit I knew was a little over halfway, which helped too.
Well done njee! When I did it it absolutely chucked it down for most of the ride. Made the descents really *interesting*. I can still remember the DH at the hill before the QECP being flat out fast all these years later! *Goes all misty eyed*
Not sure if I enjoyed it or not
After a particurly shit-filled 24 hour race I believe the late Steve Worland mused something along the lines of life enhancing and pleasurable not always being synonymous.
It's over now... 🙂
Well done! Any chance you can post a link to the strava?
Great effort that, very well done indeed.
Now go pick up that wrapper !! 😆
As always on a long ride you do have to factor "enjoyment" into the equation. Often when I'm hacking hard I do forget that around me is a whole new world. Despite the occasional inner chimp shouting "look up you tosser" i rarely do and miss some quite spectacular parts of rides. SDW has an extraordinary variation of both terrain and local focus points, not all you see from the trail. A shame to hack it hard I know but invariably we all do it.
My Mrs hasn't called in yet. I guess she too was too busy [s]enjoying the walk[/s] chatting and now supping of a pint or two somewhere near Bury. 😆
I'll scan through my ride diary to give some background to my training on it, I am going for a one way record attempt see hence the amount of time I've spent on it (and it's just up the hill from Home. When I plan training I too plan in segments, look for the hard bits and train on them.. its those buggers that slow you down see.
Anyway enough of me..
This ride you did njee20 will come back to you in a day or two. You will remember segments soon enough.. I feel you will be back to have another crack soon enough.
Well done again, in fact well done to everyone whose put a knobbly on it.
Well done Nick. Its certainly a test and Im pretty sure I know where you went wrong at QE and past Harting Down.
Good idea to break it down into tap sections as it would appear alot more manageable thinking 'OK 8 miles to Amberly' then off you go .
Great time too , SO how would you feel about turning round and riding back?
Well done great effort.
Well done 🙂
Nice one Nick - now for the double 🙂
Got a space on a leisurely team at 24/12 if you fancy a rest...
Great stuff 🙂 Nice target for me to try and get somewhere near in a few weeks time!
Thanks for the kind words everyone!
Bikebuoy - you're so right, in a few places I was forcing myself to look at the views, which are often stunning, but it's so easy to just look at the trail in front of you! Sure I missed many of the best bits!
I was thinking about people doing the double as I rolled down into Eastbourne, I really don't know how people do it. Sod that!
When is 24/12 Nobby? Can't rule it out...
25th and 26th July - you want my torchbearer place? 😀
Fair play ,rapido.Hope your legs feel ok today.
I've done it before (over two days) and got lost at the same places you did!It was a ride I totally under-estimated.Ha.
I'm very tempted by the cx trailbreak thing in July....
As above Nick, 24th July.
We're just there for a laugh this year but you're welcome to join us. A few are soloing so may need some polite encouragement. 😉
I've done the Torchbearer before Ads, in 2009. It was alright, bit depressing that it gets light and what not before you're halfway through!
Can't do that weekend anyway sadly!