[Closed] Dogs, leads, and cycle lanes (confrontation content)

To be honest, I really feel that these days there should be some sort of competency test to possess a dog.

Years ago a friend took a dog owner to court for failing to keep animal under control. She was bitten when walking along the street, needed stitches and clothing was damaged. Managed to get fully reimbursed too.

If the Dog is insured and hurts you,you can claim.Thing that gets me is when i am using a cyclepath in Cheltenham is the people in a dream when the dog is on one of those long leads they are dangerous have bunnyhoped them a couple of times.I would prefer they were not on a lead.You can always expect the dog will move over in your way at the last minute and they do.The worse i find is just let the dog do its own thing its when the owner panics and calls the dog and he goes everywhere.Fun and games cyclepaths are 😆

To be honest, I really feel that these days there should be some sort of competency test to possess a dog.

This 100000000 million times this.

Guaranteed that dogs (and small children for that matter) will wonder in front of my bike right at the last minute!

And while we're moaning about dog owners - those little bags of poo they leave - often hanging from branches - makes me kinda mad!

Legally, dogs should be under control in public places, but this does not necessarily mean on a lead. Also, legally, bikes should have pedal reflectors and a means of warning people (such as a bell etc).

Dog owner sounds like he was in the wrong, but could you have announced your presence earlier to give him a chance of getting his dog under closer control?

Competency tests should be applied in many areas of life - dog owning, bike riding, children, even eating (obesity would appear to suggest that some people can't even control that!)

And while we're moaning about dog owners - those little bags of poo they leave - often hanging from branches - makes me kinda mad!

What is the deal with that? It's like they are saying..."well it's not on the ground, I have done my bit and anytime now I assume the dog sh!t fairy will sort that out."

Grrrr

Competency tests should be applied in many areas of life

Agreed but this is a dog related thread

If it's a shared use path in a park then you should slow right down to walking pace to pass. This is what is deemed as responsible.

Thanks Large - to be fair the dog seemed quite chilled out and under control, so I guess that so long as keeps on not running into the cycle lane then everyone is happy.

In actual fact I have those clippy reflector things on the underside of my SPDs, so covered one out of two. Guess I'm being hypocritical without a bell though (who makes these rules? pinging a bell to alert a pedestrian works as well as reading the Daily Mail in order to clam down).

Devs - it is a cycle lane (with regular pictures of bikes), separated by a solid white lane and intermittent bollards from a walking lane (with regular pictures of people).

[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/rant-people-who-ride-trails-with-dogs ]anticipating much the same thread we had just the other day. here's a link. knock yerself out...[/url] 🙄
save you wasting time here's the newsflash. some idiots own dogs, some idiots ride bikes. these are not mutually exclusive groups. for other examples of things idiots do, see driving cars. some people who just don't have themselves totally focussed at that particular time that you encounter them, with or without a dog, may be perfectly nice and otherwise very responsible.
anyway, have fun.

Meg says :woof:

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EDIT: Meg also says 'Fueled, you sound far too reasonable for round by yere.'

Also, legally, bikes should have pedal reflectors and a means of warning people (such as a bell etc)

Pedal reflectors only required for riding in the dark, bell only required to be fitted when the bike is sold, no requirement otherwise.

HTH

To be honest, I really feel that these days there should be some sort of competency test to possess a dog.

yup. Agreed. Shouldn't be a very strict one, just weed out the screaming fudgetards.

I was very much the pro-dog side of the last debate, but side with you on this. In daytime wouldn't necessarily go with the lead argument in a park. But at night, yes. Take it it was a bike path/footpath running side by side, seperated by a white line? Or a dual use path?

If it's a shared use path in a park then you should slow right down to walking pace to pass

Not to be too picky, but if you did that you wouldn't pass them... I'm being too picky aren't I...

bell? or some sort of warning....... get that ******* dog out of the way at full volume works well?

Dogs should be under control. I walk mine a lot where there are cyclists and always have them under control. Occasionally a cyclist can catch you unawares ie cyclist travelling too fast or approaching from behind. When cyclists pass I like my dogs close, even better control but this involves interaction ie cyclist lets me know they are there etc..

Only had an issue with my dogs and a cyclist once who was travelling way to fast, insisted it was a cycle path, which it wasn't and complained to the forestry wardens whatever they are and got told to go away.

I am sure you were being responsible as it sounds like you were, guys having a bad day. If its dark my dogs stay away from traffic whether that's cycles etc or they go on a lead.

Agree about competency tests to own a dog, far to many bell ends with them. Cyclist, some are as well. Also agree about insurance if you were injured by the actions of the dog.

Some parks have bylaws stipulating dogs on leads at all times, many do not as far as I know, I have had that argument before. Its usually signed if they need to be but it should be under control, even if under control, if its busy mine go on the lead.

To be honest, I really feel that these days there should be some sort of competency test to possess a [s]dog[/s] heart beat.

FTFY.

a cycle lane

Technically you are therefore in the right.

He sounds like he needs a **** - dog-owner or not.

If you really believed you were in the right shouldn't you have just told the guy to **** off and carried on your journey?

It's a park. Parks are full of surprises; dogs, kids, footballs, winos etc. We have a sustrans route goes through ours and it's part of my route to and from the trails. It's a nightmare as there are dogs running about and BMXers popping tricks on it all the time. You have to control your speed or you are asking for trouble. Is a few seconds really going to make much difference? If you collide with a dog at more than walking pace in a park then I'm afraid that no one will see it as anything other than yours or shared fault. Having said all that the guy sounded like he went way over the top, just like I will when somebody tells me my dog shouldn't be at a trail centre 🙂

Before this hits page 12 this thread is about people not dogs.

The dog did nothing wrong the owner was at fault.

He would probably had a go anyway.

Just walk away

What mikewsmith says.

Sounds like fueled was being sensible the dog was being sensible, just the guy was a complete c0ck. Unfortunately you get them. Had a guy squaring up to me when my dog sniffed his dogs arse, there are just some idiots about and we just have to be tolerant of those retarded individuals who think a public space is their space and not a shared space.

Did the owner have a bee-suit on?

Owing to current ill health riding is currently restricted to river and canal paths where I meet a lot of other cyclists, dog walkers and ramblers. I have purchased a bell with a v nice ding, I have enjoyed meeting a lot of dogs and people. Life eh? Incidentally I may be the only full suss owner who has a bell on the bike but it is staying on now as I like it a lot.

Owing to current ill health riding is currently restricted to river and canal paths where I meet a lot of other cyclists, dog walkers and ramblers. I have purchased a bell with a v nice ding, I have enjoyed meeting a lot of dogs and people. Life eh? Incidentally I may be the only full suss owner who has a bell on the bike but it is staying on now as I like it a lot.

Highway code
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Dogs. Do not let a dog out on the road on its own. Keep it on a short lead when walking on the pavement, road or path shared with cyclists or horse riders.
Local authorities usually have additional by laws for parks.
In Glasgow parks dogs should be on a lead at all times,much to the surprise of most dog owners with whom I have had a similar more civilized discussion.I just keep an image stored on my phone of the relevant by law and show them when any comments are made,usually shuts them up.

Can I ask why dog owners feel the need to post pictures of their dog on a dog thread? I dont post pictures of my son on child related threads.

Like the twunt last night on a tow path that muttered 'dog' as we passed for the thing to come hurtling out of the dark at us. Having seen him coming we had slowed right down but should have been on a lead really.

Can I ask why dog owners feel the need to post pictures of their dog on a dog thread? I dont post pictures of my son on child related threads.

Although I'm happy that you don't do that, I like dog pictures in dog threads.
I also like bike pictures in bike threads.

loum, Im not sure if you're making a snide comment or not regarding posting picture of my son, so I'll let it pass.
This isn't show and tell, its a discussion about people being arses. Shall I post a gratuitous picture of my arse for balance?

[b]what del said ^^^^[/b]

except the posting a picture of my dog.

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From Fueled's description, sounds like the dog owner was a complete muppet and even his girlfriend acknowledged this by her comment as she led him away.

So regardless of the debate concerning control of dogs well done for a level response.

speaking as a dog owner I would welcome this

To be honest, I really feel that these days there should be some sort of competency test to possess a dog.

and would also apply it to having children.

Honneslty forget about it. Dog owner are ****wit of the worst kind. They probably treat their dogs better than their childrens, and consider them to be the most important thing on earth. I have found the most efficient and simple solution to dog problems. Pepper spray.

Yes Juan, that goes for all of us 😆

had this a few times

some dog walkers seem to think they have some form of natural right to let there dogs cause havoc, chase lambs, shit all over the place, and of course try and bite cyclists legs etc....

all caused by a) being a ****er and b) not being on a lead!

on the other side of that i see a few really good folks who have complete control of their dogs (to the point where the dogs look scared when told what to do and are instantly by the owners side)

I'll let it pass

its a discussion about people being arses

Dog owner are **** of the worst kind

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only one of those dogs pictured here was mine. not the one wearing glasses. that would be silly.

bigyinn.
There was nothing snide about my previous comment.
It was, according to you, a dog thread. I like dog threads and pictures of dogs on dog threads. In the same way I like bike threads and pictures of bikes on bike threads. I am still not sure why you were bringing your son into it, but that is your concern not mine.
Apparently you may now have changed your mind and think it is an arse thread. I don't like arse threads and wouldn't have opened it if I'd known, I also don't like arse pictures or arsey comments and would prefer if you kept them to yourself.
To save you more confusion, this is an elbow:
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and this is a dog:
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Riding my unicycle in the local park, I had a woman say to me "Isn't it a bit dangerous to be riding that around where dogs are?", to which my reply was: "It depends how dangerous your dog is". I think the point was lost on her.

loum my point regarding you posting up a pic of your dog was, it would be just as pointless as me posting a picture of my son up on a thread where someone was moaning about some parents being unable to control their kids. 🙄
Oh and regarding arses and elbows, I've heard that, got the T shirt ta.
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Did you print that T shirt yourself?
Explains a lot
To help you in future, this one's NOT an elbow (actual hole covered for common decency):
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I've seen dogs out with flashing leds attached to them at night. I think that's an excellent idea, and helpmed me avoid crashing into one one evening.

loum, Teatowel holder?? 😆

😆

I'd like to refer certain dog-owners to pingu66's post...

He speaks sense.

most dogs are lovely affectionate creatures, who love a hug and their head patted, and love a small piece of your biscuit or chocolate bar.

Their owners are sometimes miserable,ignorant, stupid,daft,petty minded, and dont usually appreciate a pat on the head,some can even be seen walking round with little bags of dog pooh, which they get pooh points for hurling into trees, or over hedges.