"dog owner hopes this will be a warning to cyclists"
Read and weep, can the public get any more stupider?
slipped its collar
Idiot owners
Read and weep, can the public get any more stupider?
Do we need to mention Brexit...
Do we need to mention Brexit…
Do Brexiteers complain about cyclists riding in the road?
a group of cyclists "came whizzing from nowhere"
I think Jasper Carrot has a routine based on that.
Hang on while I count all the media stories about pets being “hit by a motorist” and being used as “a warning to motorists”.
Given his owners run of bad luck, I think the dog was just trying to get a more secure future
That reporting is a sloppy as the Basset hounds Dali-esque facial features
“dog owner hopes this will be a warning to bus drivers”
Surely it's "people who shouldn't own dogs warning to other people who shouldn't own dogs"
That is pretty rubbish reporting. Its just a platform for the owners hate. I have even taken time out of my busy day to complain to the BBC.
I agree, that article is very paw indeed
Why not a warning to bus drivers too?
Anyway what tyre for Basset Hounds - Furious Fred?
Schwalbe Thunder Burtie the Basset?
I think the warning is about whizzing along silently and startling dogs, rather than running them over.
BBC "journalism" is eating itself. What a sorry state of affairs. If we'd got to this place by accident rather than design, I'd be less depressed about it. Run it down... dumb it down... click bait it up... destaff it... merge the channels... close it down.... shut it up... it's government policy.
That reporting is sloppy
That’s what you’re supposed to think.
How come a dog is "hit by cyclist" but a cyclist can only ever be "in a collision with" a car?
[i]Mr Hull said it had been a "happy ending" for Mrs Dale[/i]
The dirty Isle of Wight sods.
Mr Hull said it had been a “happy ending” for Mrs Dale
The dirty Isle of Wight sods.
Tea all over keyboard now... you bad man!
Also - those dogs are not legally secured. You have to have a guard at the least to stop the dogs being thrown into the driver in the event of a crash.
I would not like to have three massive basset hounds pummeled into my head at 60mph.
dog owner hopes this will be a warning to cyclists
Yep there are idiots everywhere and some of them own Basset Hounds
How on earth has that story made it on the BBC news?
My dog chased a squirrel in the woods earlier. Should I be getting on the BBC special correspondent to publish a story as a warning to all squirrels?
Interesting, wasn’t aware of this (not having any interest in dogs):
What happens if my dog has been run over by a car?
In the UK, dog owners are held responsible if their pet is run over by a car.
The owner is also responsible for any veterinary costs and, potentially, for the cost of repairs to the vehicle involved.
In the UK
Ah, but this was the Isle of Wight 😛
I suppose this story fits perfectly with the "BBC News" website's decision to design the front page to look [i]exactly[/i] like a bunch of clickbait links on a tabloid's website.
How on earth has that story made it on the BBC news?
This is the highlight of the news year on the IOW I reckon.
Interesting, wasn’t aware of this (not having any interest in dogs):
@Bez - that is an interesting precedent for legal responsibility, pertinent to this case surely?
Interesting, wasn’t aware of this (not having any interest in dogs):
What happens if my dog has been run over by a car?
In the UK, dog owners are held responsible if their pet is run over by a car.
The owner is also responsible for any veterinary costs and, potentially, for the cost of repairs to the vehicle involved.
That's pretty much the same as if I get knocked off by a loose dog on my way home tonight - unless the dog is under control it's the dog owner's fault. Few of the new lockdown dogwalkers seem to understand this.
Who's a naughty boy?
As a dog owner, and a cyclist, and a pedestrian, and a car driver...
The BBC has sunk to new fathoms.
They Should probaly call James Cameron to check out his exploration of the Mariana Trench.
Very low level reporting.
Nah, BBC have been reporting this sort of stuff in this way for years.
I was bored so I've complained to the BBC.
You’ll probably just get a “cyclists in furious rage about lovely doe-eyed dog” article instead 😂
Mr Hull said it had been a "happy ending" for Mrs Dale, whose house was badly damaged by a fire last year, before she suffered a heart attack.
There's a tendency in recent years for local news stories to pile on the misery like this, usually in a pathetic attempt at mitigation when someone's complaining that they (rightly) got a parking ticket.
BBC “journalism” is eating itself. What a sorry state of affairs. If we’d got to this place by accident rather than design, I’d be less depressed about it. Run it down… dumb it down… click bait it up… destaff it… merge the channels… close it down…. shut it up… it’s government policy.
The BBC still does great journalism.
It's just having to fill the void left by the slow death of other local news outlets (because of the domination of the ad market by Facebook & Google).
And misguided shit like this is part and parcel of local news, unfortunately.
Nah, BBC have been reporting this sort of stuff in this way for years.
In what way did I suggest this is a sudden event? If I did, I didn’t mean to. The most important events occurred years ago, when the BBC team doing most of the journalism for the /news pages of the website were held up as an example of just how good news on the internet could be. Newspaper owners got in a huff about it, and the team were shrunk and merged into irrelevance… the website is just another channel for the entertainment focused TV&Radio content now.
Bloody cyclists and their quantum anomalies. Appearing out of nowhere isn’t on and they should pay some sort of portal tax.
Very badly written. Would have thought the warning is actually to careless dog owners. Seems to be a few too many dog owners around who 'apparently' have no idea how their dog will react to people on bikes.
I'm so confused by this, so cyclists startled the dog causing it to slip its collar, one of the cyclist ran it over and just carried on, so what did the owner do next, an injured basset hound can't exactly speed off like a whippet. Makes no sense.
Dog pwner sued by cyclist after causing a collision.
Mrs Dale, a masseuse from the Isle of Wright is being sued by a local cyclist for causimg an accident.
Her stupid dog legged it really slowly away from her whilst she was tieing some poo bags to a nearby conifer.
' one mimute he was there, then a few minutes later I noticed he had simply disappeared'
Then a group of cyclist's cycled past furiously, gesticulating. They were going so fast, like a bat out of hell, i didnt see or hear them coming till they were past me.
The cyclist, Barry from Freshwater has contracted covid whilst in hospital recovering from injuries, and is on a ventilator, so unable to comment.
The dog is fine, but has asked for privacy at this difficult time
Anyway what tyre for Basset Hounds – Furious Fred?
Chapeau.
It does take all sorts though.
In what way did I suggest this is a sudden event?
You didn’t, I was responding to the post immediately before mine 🙂 (which at the time ended at “the BBC has sunk to new fathoms”)
"Slipped it's collar"
Good to see that all three dogs now have harnesses, to avoid this, in future. (Assuming that picture of them, in the boot, was taken after the incident)
Well it’s not really anybody’s fault is it?
The dog slipped out of its collar it happens.
The cyclists couldn’t stop in time and ran it over, it could of been a car just happened to be a cyclist.
What’s the big deal why is it always someone’s fault. Just an accident shit happens
of course it's somebody's fault - THOSE BASTARDS CAME OUT OF NOWHERE !!!!!!
Well it’s not really anybody’s fault is it?
Well yes, it really is if the dog owner can’t look after her dog and almost causes several cyclists and a bus to collide with it. Most people who own dogs can manage this.
From the story I take it the cyclist was ok? In which case kudos for staying upright after hitting a dog that size.
By the sound of it the owner would be liable for any damage caused by his out of control dog.
Wonder if the dog is equally surprised by EV’s?
The dog slipped out of its collar it happens.
Well it will if you don't ensure the collar fits properly before every trip out. Many modern collars are not suitable for attaching a lead to for dog walking as the buckles and other fittings won't hold under a shock load. Chest harness or halter type attachment is more fool proof.
I was responding to the post immediately before mine
Ah, sorry. My contributions to this thread have been awful. Carry on… sorry.
What’s the big deal why is it always someone’s fault. Just an accident shit happens
I think it's the tone of the article that has caused raised eyebrows, not the fact that it happened.
Dog owner here.
Slipped lead/collar may be a spot of bad luck for the owner but blaming someone other than yourself for a loose dog in the road as a result of a slipped lead is a bit rich. Proper adjustment of the collar, adequate control and positioning of yourself relative to the dog all mitigate the risk of a slip. People make mistakes and I'd not put someone in the stocks for it given the lack of actual consequences here but I'd not be slinging the blame elsewhere either. Lead on by the road and pay attention.
If she'd been mown down with the dog on a lead while crossing the road I'd have a very different view.
Years ago I hit a dog and broke a vertebrea, I'll consider myself warned then
The concept of shared use paths is a bit tricky. The walkers don't act like they are expecting anyone on a bike, but the opposite could be said of some cyclists. People (me included in the past) can ride like it's a cycleway which isn't really compatible with many walkers. I stopped using some local ones because there were too many people all over the shop and at least the cars on the roads are a bit more predictable and focused.
I just want to know what the warning is.
Human progress:
No microchip in the dog either by the looks of things.
I'm wondering how the laziest dog known to man managed to disappear out of sight from its owner, they must have a top speed of 8mph for about 1 minute before stopping to take a nap.
She didn’t notice because she’s been unable to count since her HEART ATTACK last year, and she can’t use a calculator because it got nicked when her house was BURGLED.
That’s why she couldn’t tell the difference between 3 dogs and 2 dogs and a spare collar.
Either that, or she’s a bit thick, I can’t decide tbh.
I just want to know what the warning is
I guess there's only one person who could tell you this and that's the woman they quoted in the story.
I’m wondering how the laziest dog known to man managed to disappear out of sight from its owner, they must have a top speed of 8mph for about 1 minute before stopping to take a nap.
I think that's the real nub of things isn't it. A bit of deflection on to the cyclist her out of control dog caused to crash, and a list of her recent woes... But we can all read between the lines and know that she was busy yapping over a garden gate to some other Doris about "how terrible all these Covids are", while Scooby waddled off...
In fairness to the Beeb, they can only really report what they are told and quote what is said.
The reporting is pretty straightforward mostly. There's just that little inference in the choice of certain language "run over by a cyclist" rather than "Scooby wandered into the road, causing a collision with a cyclist". Meh.
But yeah, you'll read that piece with whatever set of personal bias' you might have and you will probably draw whatever conclusions you normally would...
This sort of thing isn't unique to the IOW though. If I head out into rural(ish) Berkshire on a Sunday for my local loop the wax jacket and welly brigade are wandering all over the roads and lanes in/around various villages, dogs often off the lead, generally emboldened by the reduced number of Range Rovers and Hilux' charging about, essentially not giving two ****s for road safety...
So I suppose then that there is a "Warning for cyclists" - There are meandering morons all over the place at present, oblivious to the world around them and unwilling to accept any responsibility for the consequences of their own actions/inattention...
she can’t use a calculator because it got nicked when her house was BURGLED
If you bothered to actually read the article, you'd know the real reason she couldn't use her calculator was all the keys had melted in the recent house fire
In fairness to the Beeb, they can only really report what they are told and quote what is said.
Or there's the other option... just ignore it.
I complained to the BBC about the anti-cyclist article and they've replied today. Response below.
We don’t agree that the article was misleading or otherwise biased against cyclists.
We report the location of the incident while making clear this is the owner’s version of events as the dog slipped its collar after a group of cyclists 'came whizzing from nowhere' and was later found with tyre marks on its back by a police community support officer.
The cyclists aren’t identified and readers can form their own judgements on Mrs Dale’s hope that “this will be a warning to cyclists,” but we thought this was an interesting local story about a dog in distress and a happy ending.
My original text:
This is more of a thinly veiled anti-cycling rant rather than a news article. It is not in any way balanced. The dog(s) were off their leash, i.e. not under the control of their owner yet the cyclists are once again the figure of fun and the ones being pointed out as in the wrong.
This reporting is as sloppy as the Basset hounds Dali-esque facial features.
LOL at your complaint, weeping at the reply
I've never complained before but clearly this incensed me enough to do it (on a slow work day).
The response is really frustrating. The article presents the woman's views as the narrative and doesn't even try to be balanced. Idiots !!
@ElShalimo That is word for word the exact same response I got today following my complaint. 😕
I haven't had a reply to my complaint. If I do get a cut'n'paste response I'll be complaining again.
Ha - I got that boilerplate reply this afternoon too. There was another e-mail earlier telling me how to complain to OFCOM about the slow response to my complaint. I may use it.
I wouldn’t bother complaining about this stuff, news houses love it, it’s basically feeding the trolls.
If and when you next come off your bike, though, try phoning them up and giving them some flannel about a stray Fred Bassett having taken you down. Bonus story-embellishment points if you’ve landed face first in a little bag of dogshit. (If you’re within half a mile of a car park then it’s probably 50-50 that you will have.)
They won’t buy it, of course, but it’s something to pass the time while you mop soggy turd off your chops.
'Happy ending'
Maybe they should change its name to Lucky, I usually have to pay for my happy endings!
Funnily enough a mate recently complained to the BBC because he felt Prime Ministers Question Time had been unfaithfully edited for the later news bulletins. Joris apparently made himself look a right **** when it went out live, but it was edited in such a way that that was completely lost subsequently. His reply was much like yours ElShalimo. I suggested that he forward the original complaint and reply to OffCom as it clearly showed bias.
I’ll see if he’s still got the email.
There’s such a virulent anti-cycling bias in the media it staggers me.
It filters through to the hard of thinking who then believe they are well within their rights to drive like d1x around us.
I see it & experience it all the time around London - deliberate close passes, verbal abuse, pulling out in front of you whilst looking you in the fing EYES, lights & hi-viz on. I mean, F me I’m at a loss as to what to do to make myself more obvious. I’ll give you 10 to 1 these gutless sh1tz wouldn’t dare pull a knife on you in the pub (remember them?) for having an iPhone & not Android. Because that’s exactly the infinitesimal difference that these morons are using as justification for driving dangerously around us.
The sooner I can hit the trails & get away from these morons in their metal boxes the better!
The response is really frustrating. The article presents the woman’s views as the narrative and doesn’t even try to be balanced. Idiots !!
And breath...
I pretty much predicted the Beebs response a month ago:
In fairness to the Beeb, they can only really report what they are told and quote what is said.
The reporting is pretty straightforward mostly. There’s just that little inference in the choice of certain language “run over by a cyclist” rather than “Scooby wandered into the road, causing a collision with a cyclist”. Meh.
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