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[Closed] Dodgy eBay listing for Pinarello Dogma - Surrey

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Could be a Chinese, but not big on identify features.

If not, it's a [i]tiny[/i] bit suspect.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/pinarello-dogma-2-bicycle-/171902929311


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 3:53 am
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The wheels are probably still locked to a lamppost.


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 5:30 am
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That sure does reek, at least he left his contact details on auction for the police to check out. 😉


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 5:45 am
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Certainly looks dodgy! He's selling quite alot of things "for a friend". Surely if he was selling for his friend they would have gave him the specs of the frame / components to put in the description given the value of the parts.

In saying that his feedback as a seller is good.


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 7:07 am
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It's a Chinarello, graphics are wrong it should read Pinarello on the down tube not the seat tube,seat post clamp have more writing on and the seat post itself has cheap silver clamping mechanism instead of the black more machined looking mechanism on genuine ones, see pics below of genuine ones.
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Posted : 23/08/2015 7:23 am
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'Selling for a friend' hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 8:50 am
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I've just asked the question "is this stolen?"

I don't expect an answer.


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 8:57 am
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Just up the road from me, what size is it ? 😉


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 8:59 am
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I don't think I'd ever trust 'selling for a friend' when they're selling high end sports goods

It's just too suspicious, someone with high level sports equipment would want to sell themselves surely, not just let a friend chuck it online


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 10:16 am
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I only had a quick look and they're not a serial bike seller, for whatever that's worth

Still odd and/or stupid to sell "on behalf of a friend" with such shit information though. If the lister is legit and this is the best info available, then I'd expect them to be in some doubt about their "friend".


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 10:20 am
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Cheers people; hopefully the owner (who I suspect may have still forked out a few quid) will spot the ad.


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 10:59 am
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Ohhh, the bloke selling the bikes not happy with my question... 😆 He said "wot kind of a question is that? do you think I'd sell something stolen?"

So I replied:

Prove its a genuine Pinarello, prove it's provenance, prove it's owned by "your mate"...

All reasonable questions I reckon, I await the response.


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 11:10 am
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unovolo, you're totally wrong about the Dogma on the down tube, or there are a lot of fakes on ebay!

Nobody seemed to mention, but surely the most blindingly obvious reason its fake, it the fact it has a cheap/bottom of the range groupset and not a Record/Dura-Ace as you would expect.

Have anyone report it as a fake yet?


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 1:18 pm
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Whilst admitting he knows nothing about the frame, his mate could've done him (and himself) a favour by writing the description. Also odd that he doesn't know what happened to the wheels ... have you not asked your mate?

Something not quite right methinks.


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 1:35 pm
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you're totally wrong about the Dogma on the down tube, or there are a lot of fakes on ebay!
One of those things is pretty much a given isn't it ?


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 1:46 pm
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At the end of the day, it's a road bike, only the idiotica will bid to buy. 😈


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 1:51 pm
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unovolo, you're totally wrong about the Dogma on the down tube, or there are a lot of fakes on ebay!
Nobody seemed to mention, but surely the most blindingly obvious reason its fake, it the fact it has a cheap/bottom of the range groupset and not a Record/Dura-Ace as you would expect.

Meh, buy nice frame, skimp on bits, not wholly unreasonable.

FWIW, whilst I don't know about the decals I'm inclined to agree it's fake - along with the stem, which has the wrong shaped bolts and faceplate - a real Ritchey stem has tapered head bolts placed much closer together. The writing on the top cap looks fake too, too widely spaced compared to real ones I've seen. The headset is a super cheap Chinese one too.

All reasonable questions I reckon, I await the response.

I never quite get why people do this. What are you trying to achieve?


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 1:56 pm
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lots of arguments about the decals, Pinarello are one of the companies that flip the decals from side to side.

here is an image lifted from the Pinarello web site which shows it is dogma on the non drive side.

[img] http://www.pinarello.com/en/resources/slide-homepage/grazie-froomey/image [/img]

the ebay add makes it look like the bike has been stolen, no wheels, broken chain etc.


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 2:12 pm
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It's been removed from the EBay auction


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 3:14 pm
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Just before it disappeared I sent him a message.

I told him he can probably find the wheels from the bike still strapped onto whichever roof rack the bike was ripped off from.

I wonder why he withdrew it?

EDIT: I have a one word reply from him. It reads simply "idiot"


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 5:58 pm
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Bum. Was hoping to just keep visibility for someone that might be looking for their bike.

I understand the goading; maybe not such a great idea though in the grand scheme etc..


 
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EDIT: I have a one word reply from him. It reads simply "idiot"

Based on your previous actions it would be difficult to argue otherwise.


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 8:36 pm
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Removed


 
Posted : 23/08/2015 8:46 pm

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