[Closed] diytrackworld.. hollow wall anchors are eating the plasterboard..

Has this issue in our new build house. Only solution I found was the 'butterfly' style fixings that go through the hole closed and open up and grip the back of the board as you tighten them.

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Still might not be strong enough for what you want though?

You are using the setting tool for those right ?

Did you use the setting tool they quite often have or just screw them tight?

that'd probably work.. hole is big enough now 🙂 but yep - Suspect tightening it up may cause the back bits to pull through.. and yep. Think it's not going to hold the weight of a worktop still sadly. May have to get some legs!

I have the same problem.

Is there any surefire solution?

there is a solution, don't buy a modern house!!! alternatively try to see if you can use a longer fixing to fix to the blocks behind if your house is dry lined, if its timber framed then youll have to find the timber studs to fix into.

not with the setting tool, nope - don't have one, thought you could screw them in ok. thought wrong!

house was built in the 70's

wall is a long way away from the interior wall.

timbers no where near..

🙁

annoyingly, it's an exterior wall.. most of the walls have been fine and pretty solid. this one however is not for some reason. One interior wall caused the need for an SDS drill.. damn.

Has anyone used [url= http://www.screwfix.com/p/gripit-brown-plasterboard-fixings-20-x-20mm-8-pack/1495j ]these[/url]? Have used toggle clamps and ones like the op used with mixed results, there must be a better solution

They are absoloutley brilliant fixings but you need the setting tool they siply dont work without it.

As above. Setting tool imperative. Flow - shout if u are near high peak/manc/around m60. Can loan my tool...

thanks for the offer and advice.. will see about filling the gaping hole now 🙂

beagle - am in Morzine if that helps 😉

I've used the ones that Cheers_Drive linked to above, having struggled with just about every other product. They work brilliantly, and as they need a large hole they will help with the hole you've ended up with!
You do need to buy the right size drill for them - but they're the best solution I've found

If it were me anchoring a kitchen worktop to a plasterboard wall I'd be finding the nearest studs (missues), cutting a slot in the pb and then adding a noggin at the right height to take the weight of the worktop plus your drunk mate sitting on it. You can skim over the top to cover it and it'll mostly be hidden by the worktop in any event.

You'll need the tool. They work great, used them a lot (TV and monitor wall mounts, shelves, curtain rails) in my current place with is plasterboard all the way (in the truest French tradition).

There's no way you'll get them to set properly without the tool just by screwing because the force required to pull them tight in to place is not insignificant, and until they're up tight they will just spin.

You might want to try a gripit fixing. They need quite a big hole anyway, so you could claim its all part of your dastardly plan.

No special tools needed for fitting.

If you've made a hole you might want to consider putting a section of batten in the wall so that you can spread the load.

Was always going to put a batten on (5x5cm one), then rest the worktop on that.. think I will go for a batton-cum-shelf that extends to the nearest support behind - will cover the holes I've made, and we can put some small plants on it or something - all part of the plan 😉

Gripits look good.. one for the future.

and yes.. accounting for the drunk mate / renter (it's a holiday let) sitting on it is deffo an issue that needs to be resolved.. over engineering is required here I think.

Those GripIT ones look fancy.

they do look good.. though pretty sure my wall is 20mm thick.. so back to the shelf idea

[url= http://gripitfixings.co.uk/new-gripit-2015/#productrange ]They do 20 and 25mm fixings.[/url]

that's the diameter, not the thickness of the wall.. so far as I can see they all say 'up to 15mm' - that me misinterpreting?

life would be easier and safer with a leg at the far end.....

annoyingly, it's an exterior wall..

It's an exterior wall with a cavity between the brick and the plasterboard? How odd.

The plasterboard must be fixed to studs. Drill through the plasterboard and studs and into the brick?

oh, don't worry, there will be a leg that end.. no way it's staying up with one end fixed to the wall!

Those anchors in the OP are extremely strong (when used with the fixing tool obvs!)

I have a massive bike rack taking up most of one wall in my spare bedroom which holds 4 bikes + all my kit held up with those things & it's rock solid.

I've had mixed results with Gripit fixings on drylined walls - one pair went in fine, but when installing another pair I had to drill into the dab for one of the fixings. In theory this is not a problem - just undercut the dab, but in doing so some broke away leaving nothing for the gripit wings to hold on to. End result? A fairly useless hole in the wall :o\

(edit) A neighbour has had good results with these, not tried them myself : [url= http://www.drylinepro.com/ ]http://www.drylinepro.com/[/url]

all the radiators in my house are held up with them fixings - and the bannister

they work just like a rivet.

[url= http://www.screwfix.com/p/rawlplug-heavy-duty-setting-tool/8499g ]setting tool [/url]

Got the setting tool. Drilled another hole. Batton covers the mistake... no one need know 🙂 thanks all!

May get an additional leg just to mitigate against the drunk mates sitting on it - cheaper than a new wall.

Good stuff! Didn't want to put something that shape in the French post!!