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Hi all,
I have a NukeProof Scout 275 running on WTB STi30 TCS 2.0 32H wheels. I have found that trying to getting tyres onto these rims are extremely hard. I've fitted several in the past on all different wheels but nothing has compared to this. Anyone else experienced this on these rims?
Many thanks
Not those particular tyres and rims.
But the only advice I can offer is to make sure you start opposite the valve and make sure the tyre beads are sitting in the well of the rim before trying to get the last section of tyre on to the rim.
Have you taped the rims too much, making the effective diameter too big for those tyres?
Other than that work on your thumb strength.
Having recently seen a video of one being used, I'd recommend having a look at the tyreglider
I agree that making sure the bead is in the well of the rim as much as possible. If it’s a really awkward tyre then going down on your knees on a surface with friction (carpet, rubber) then putting the seated side of the rim in your stomach you can then push at an angle against the floor and use the rolling action along with your thumbs to pop it on. Not easy to describe and I’m not clever enough to post a video. Hope this helps!
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and make sure the tyre beads are sitting in the well of the rim before trying to get the last section of tyre on to the rim.
This...easy to forget in the anger of the battle
I recently bought a (cheap unbranded) rim jack a good purchase but the above basic "rule" still needed
Like tubeless but it is a faff
Just swopped the tyres on Mrs antigees road commuter for the puncture resistant (tubed) tyres on the bike she had on the turbo (!?) All in 10minutes...
Spray some soapy water on the rim to reduce the friction. That worked better than I expected on my last stupidly tight tyre.
I bought some proper steel tyre levers from a motorbike shop. They're about 10" long. Much better than puny little plastic levers.
After my first 'holy crap this is never going on' combo, I took a well earned 4 biscuit n brew break after wiping the sweat from my brow and checking my fingernails were still properly attached, I let my new tyres warm up a bit next to the heater then returned with the aid of a wet sponge with fairy liquid on and the use of my feet as well as tyre levers and it finally popped on.
Gotta be careful with big tyre levers though.
On really stubborn tyres I use a technique I learnt on motorbike tyres. Put the rotor side on first. Then with the rotor on the ground work the easy part in. When it starts getting hard use your elbows and lower arms to hold the tyre deep into the well. I rarely need a lever this way.
If i have a nightmare, i break out the fairy liquid*, put some on a sponge, then go around the bead of the tyre and a little in the lip of the rim, then try again, it's all about using as much slack as possible, so getting it in the channel/centre, and fairy can help that.
* other similar brands are available and work just as well, except Lidl, they're crap.
The wheel well thing can't be overstated. If the beads are in the well then the diameter you're squeezing over is as much as 2cm less. Trick is, as soon as it starts getting tough, go round the whole wheel pinching the beads into the middle. Then squeeze a bit more tyre on but don't fight it, as soon as it's tough again go back around pinching. Rinse and repeat until the tyre is on. It requires patience but it was revelationary to me after I saw the tip on here. Went from snapping a metal tyre lever to doing every tyre by hand
I've found this video helpful when fitting tight tyres.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-XUFVrl0UT4&cbrd=1
When it starts getting hard use your elbows and lower arms to hold the tyre deep into the well
Last couple of awkward tyres I’ve been using a cheapo spreader clamp, with plastic jaws, to hold the tyre in place whilst we fight. Works quite well.
The only time I struggled to get a tyre on was a WTB tyre and 10 mins in a bucket of hot water then made it easy
Oh my g0d my Winter/Audax bike is horrible. DT Swiss aluminium wheels on Conti GP5000 tube tyres, its so bad. I have never broken a tyre lever, no have broken dozens in the space of a year. Hate it. I am getting better (using the technique described above) but my weak typing type hands are no match for the LBS... I have just bought a Tyre Glider, not tried it yet.
I am thinking of trying another wheel set, I blame the Yanks though... under inflated tyre rolling of rim legal action I bet :-)))
Fairy liquid applied with fingertip around the rim...... When at home.
No idea what I'm going to do when out and suffer a puncture (not had one of them In ages though)
Thanks for all the replies guys and tips. It shouldn't be this difficult to just swap a tyre haha.
Talc powder, used to get that in a 'puncture repair kit' in the days before tubeless !