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has anyone seen someone sit on the podium for as long

Lourdes a few years ago? Early starters got a dry track then the rain came and turned it into an ice rink.

Fayolle won with a very early run after qualifying 52nd

 
Posted : 11/10/2020 10:15 pm
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Don’t know if they are going to open the line up to the public but that would clear out a lot of the fresh dirt and bed it in.
If they do my lad will insist on towing me in off the new gap, I’m already sweating.

sure i read somewhere that it will be open to the public but not the gap.

 
Posted : 11/10/2020 11:37 pm
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Yup, Lourdes came to my mind as well,

Also, what a thoroughly nice guy Troy B is, he was fantastic with Reece at the end.

Word. Brosnan always seems to be one of the first to congratulate the winner, even when they've cruelly robbed him of yet another well deserved win!
Remember when Gwinn did his chainless run at Leogang, and Brosnan went up to him with a massive grin and applauded his win with 'You mother****er' 😀

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 6:54 am
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Reece bossed it all weekend, well deserved

Agree. I was very anxious after the first couple of women came down. But then you see a couple of people, starting with Nicole in the women's race show that if you can ride well, there really is a big difference to be made. It's not a lottery, Reece Wilson's run was a damn fine run. I think he made some comments in practice along the lines "it's like our national champs, bring it on" and I think the best rider absolutely won it. Thirion had a damn good stab at it too, but got caught out, and a shame that Minaar fell early on, because experience pays, I think, in unusual conditions.

It's nice to see racing, and it's nice to see some racing that challenges in a different way. Good race, great win by a very deserving winner.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 7:12 am
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I really thought one of the big names would have stomped it all and put loads of time into Reece, but fairplay to him for putting it together when it counts!

Greg's slide on his back looked like it went on forever, like Sol Cambells slide for England years ago (linky)

Bruni seemed to have a real nightmare in the woods, everytime they cut back to him he was down!

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 8:57 am
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If anyone finds a full run edit of Reece Wilson I'd love to see it.

The coverage was pretty terrible - out of the starting gates then at the next cut he's 7s up! We didn't get to see anything useful - hoping a full run video surfaces today...

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 9:06 am
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And another world champ for the UK, how many is that now, it's about time mainstream media started embracing this sport instead of tucking it away on the red button, although this years wasn't a great example of how amazing this sport can be.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 9:07 am
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Sadly i think cameras flattening terrain massively, the sport struggles as you really can't grasp just how bonkers it is when watching it

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 9:11 am
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Yep, helps keep in perspective how nasty it was to see someone like that have their run fall apart like that. Anyone could have crashed but there's crashing and there's crashing your brains out. Loic's spent a ton of time riding in shitty conditions in Scotland too, since his GF was studying in Galashiels, so he was probably a bit better prepared than some of hte others. There was a spell where you could barely fall on your arse in a rain storm at innerleithen without having him turn up and see if you were OK 🙂

Re hotseat times, there was a world cup race a few years back where the hotseat was static for pretty much the entire race, and then all three got swept off into the bin at the last minute by I think the last 4 riders down, savage.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 9:14 am
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That's some interesting insider info Northwind, so he's been on the inners uplift over lockdown?

I remember seeing Chris Kovarik on the Moelfre uplift once 😳 he'd been hanging out with Simmonds when they were on CRC Intense

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 9:40 am
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@fingerbang that was a few years ago. Bruno and Degn are shacked up in Barcelona, so he had a genuinly tight lockdown as opposed to what most of us experienced. He didn't get to ride a bike outdoors earlier this year.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 10:13 am
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It was tough to watch Super-Bruni - he looked to really start struggling and I thought he was not far off a full strop and slinging his bike away at one point. Properly nasty, tough course to put multiple champions off like that.

Winning runs now up on RB youtube channel, they have all of about 40 seconds of Reece.

Surely, even though they didnt show it live (I understand why this happens) they must still be recording all the footage from the cameras in the woods for the early riders? Can they not piece it together into most of a run?

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 10:25 am
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Surely, even though they didnt show it live (I understand why this happens) they must still be recording all the footage from the cameras in the woods for the early riders? Can they not piece it together into most of a run?

There was probably 3 or 4 riders on track at that time and the camera men had no idea one of them was on a winning run. Only the top ten get increased intervals allowing more complete coverage.

It happens every time someone plays the rain game or the track turns to superglue on a wet day. You get a winning run that you can't fully see.

It's still better than waiting 2 months for Dirt magazine and then trying to imagine what happened.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 10:42 am
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Oh absolutely, as I said, I do actually understand why it wasnt shown live.

But with 4 riders on track, each rider still goes past each camera.

Even though the producer might not select 'That' camera at that moment as being the one thats being output, surely all the feeds from all the cameras are being recorded the whole time, is my point.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 10:46 am
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Surely, even though they didnt show it live (I understand why this happens) they must still be recording all the footage from the cameras in the woods for the early riders? Can they not piece it together into most of a run?

Yeah, exactly.

I think some of the top 20 got drone footage (or possible overhead wire cam things) and it's understandable that the others might not get this. I want to see what went on in the woods!

In related news, I watched the Crankworks Innsbruck DH last weekend and they had drones zipping through the trees following riders. It was great footage and cool to see a different perspective.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 10:54 am
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Tremendous result for Mikayla Parton too, brilliant! 5th in the ladies, only been biking for 5 years.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 10:57 am
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Sadly i think cameras flattening terrain massively, the sport struggles as you really can’t grasp just how bonkers it is when watching it

Which is why every race should start with either Warner or Claudio doing a course preview, swearing/squealing a lot.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 1:22 pm
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Was there a course preview for this one? 🙂

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 1:23 pm
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That’s some interesting insider info Northwind, so he’s been on the inners uplift over lockdown?

Nah, this was a good while back, 2018 ish?

They still show a brilliant marketing video at borders college which includes a BASE Downhill day where he joined in- was quite awkward when we did our last open day in the gala campus and every 10 minutes it'd loop around and I'd be like... "yep, that's right folks, you really can do a HND in mountain biking, and it's well respected, as you can see here Loic Bruni the downhill world champion is doing some guest coaching there, and... yes, you're right, that's me at the back there, riding like an absolute tool" I wasn't even part of it, I just happened to ride through while they were filming and pretty much ruined it 🙂

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 2:03 pm
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https://www.pinkbike.com/news/video-brook-macdonalds-leogang-dh-world-champs-course-preview.html

From Brook MacDonald. Minaar did one too, but has the wrong helmet to be the "official preview".

Neither have the ability to talk you down it like Gee though.

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 2:08 pm
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The last video of the weekend.

Track walk in Maribor tomorrow

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 6:40 pm
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Just finished watching the replay - got to say I think that was one of the best world's I've seen.

I often think it's odd that so much importance is put on the world champs over the world cup, you'd think that showing consistent results over multiple tracks would be a better indicator of skill than one race where a simple mechanical or one mistake could throw your chances, but this one really put paid to that. It's just inhuman the way they can speed down a course like this!

Feel bad for the women getting bogged down in the mud, much worse for them than the men, but even so as Camille showed with the well deserved win it needs a different approach sometimes.

This was a good race with the same conditions for everyone, not like Lourdes a while back where the first riders raced down properly and the second half was just an ice rink and ruined it (absolutely no disrespect for Fayolle!).

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 11:16 pm
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Oh and Rob really needed to stop jinxing Minaar 😀

"Look at him, just perfec..."
*Slides halfway down the hill like a drunken penguin*

"Minaar showing some class here"
*Completely out of control head first into a tree*

 
Posted : 12/10/2020 11:22 pm
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“Look at him, just perfec…”
*Slides halfway down the hill like a drunken penguin*

“Minaar showing some class here”
*Completely out of control head first into a tree*

Yeah - this. Made me laugh (though it's a shame, he's a great racer and I think it'd have been good if he could have put together a run) but the first time the words were barely out of Warner's mouth and Minaar went off sliding down the hill ...

 
Posted : 13/10/2020 7:05 am
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Oh and Rob really needed to stop jinxing Minaar

Warner: Nina Hoffman will really attack here

*Hoffman bins it at the first corner*

 
Posted : 13/10/2020 8:16 am
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I really, really wanted Reece to win so I was quite happy with the Commentator's Curse showing up..!

 
Posted : 13/10/2020 9:37 am
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Always thought it would be better for world champs to be decided in a mass start race rather than just another DH venue.

 
Posted : 13/10/2020 11:53 pm
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Just caught up on this via red button (Red Bull app always has shite streaming quality for me)

I'll never complain about local slop again!

 
Posted : 14/10/2020 11:33 pm
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Always thought it would be better for world champs to be decided in a mass start race rather than just another DH venue.

Way too much luck involved tbh. It'd be fun to watch though.

 
Posted : 15/10/2020 12:08 am
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It’d be fun to watch though

Exactly something TT rarely captures.

 
Posted : 19/10/2020 11:43 pm
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It'd be awful.

 
Posted : 20/10/2020 7:15 am
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Somebody mentioned it above about the lack of mainstream coverage following another British World Championship win; well I hate to say this, but the mainstream aren't interested. They already cover cycling, it just so happens it takes place on the road. Most of the cycling journalists are 'old school roadies', anything else which involves 'off road' doesn't count.
And I say this as somebody who watches road, as well as MTB, and Cyclocross.
The winner of last Sunday's Tour of Flanders won 3 XCO MTB World Cup races last year, but they very rarely mention his MTB success....just he came from CX.

 
Posted : 21/10/2020 11:57 am
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. Most of the cycling journalists are ‘old school roadies’, anything else which involves ‘off road’ doesn’t count.

The winner of last Sunday’s Tour of Flanders won 3 XCO MTB World Cup races last year, but they very rarely mention his MTB success….just he came from CX.

Surely if they mention “he came from cx” then “off road” does count, cx being off road cycling? Maybe they don’t mention the mtb world cup as that’s a pretty small, insignificant pool.

 
Posted : 21/10/2020 12:05 pm
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It’d be awful.

Le Mans start?!?!

 
Posted : 24/10/2020 9:48 pm
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Na, grim.

First person onto the first corner wins, your flagship bike event of the rear reduced to a 5 minute procession, no overtaking, nothing.

Like formula one over 1 lap.

TT style DH is brilliant, a massive game of chess, with riders unsure of how they're doing, never 100% sure if they should take massive risks or ride smooth and safe, tracks change over the race, sometimes better, sometimes not.

I love taking mental notes on the track of times, out with the checkpoints, in Maribor frinstance, the berm into the flat pedal, if one of the guys were outside 1.34 at that, they probably we're out of the running.

And it lasts a couple of hours, stretching out the enjoyment of said flagship event, early riders get a seat on the podium, even for just one run, that's awesome.

Love it.

 
Posted : 25/10/2020 7:52 am
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A bit

Stato

Some gladiatorial elbows out racing on a mega type track would be good.

 
Posted : 25/10/2020 5:55 pm
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It would be awful. 100% agree with Nobeer.

 
Posted : 25/10/2020 6:27 pm
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