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i had problems with it jimbo, it didn't get passed the loading stage, had to cast the whole screen rather than the video directly.


 
Posted : 13/09/2016 7:35 pm
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Do all the unconditional Brandan-lovers out there truly believe he is as physically fit as he could be? And I don't mean if he did a year long stint with the Marines, I just mean as much training as Minnaar for example.

Can you not here the resignation in Claudio's voice when he talks about Brendan "just being Brendan"?

And yes, being an office-based 'fat' (I don't actually consider myself fat, but let's just go with it) bastard actually adds to my frustration with him. If I had an ounce of his talent I would be doing my hardest to make sure I was able to use that talent to its maximum.

I want the guy to do it! That's not being a 'hater'.


 
Posted : 13/09/2016 7:47 pm
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I really hope Brendog isn't reading this thread and decides to change his training plan for next year because I sure as hell don't want to see him sat on a turbo-trainer or out on his road bike in the next video he makes. Now that really would be wasting his talent.


 
Posted : 13/09/2016 8:29 pm
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He's out on his road bike a fair bit and pretty quick too. Don't know how much compared to the over guys though. Maybe he'll concentrate just on the worlds DH at some point if that's what he enjoys doing.


 
Posted : 14/09/2016 7:49 am
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is a track like that one is a different kind of fitness though?

I saw a post from minaar on instagram

"one brutal track, my hands just couldnt cope"

and remy metailler says he doesnt race WC DH because he cant hold on for that long.

https://dirtmountainbike.com/news/remy-metailler-blames-lack-racing-results-arm-pump.html


 
Posted : 14/09/2016 8:02 am
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Totally dicking about

innit.

I think some of you are misreading the amount of talent there is in Men's DH at the moment. At most races the top 20 are separated by less than 10 seconds, and Fairclough is [i]consistently [/i] top 20. I'm pretty sure that to be there for as long as he has means that he takes it pretty bloody seriously. Just because he does 3min videos of him dicking about in the woods occasionally does equal "slacker".


 
Posted : 14/09/2016 9:13 am
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Still nothing on the front page? Pretty shabby guys.

well, as far as I can remember having used this site for years and years it's never really been about racing, and it's certainly never been about DH racing, and it's certainly not a results feed service. There's Roots and Rain, Dirt, Pink Bike, Vital (off the top of my head) that'll give you pretty much instantaneous results service if you want it.

Other mountain bike websites are available 😆


 
Posted : 14/09/2016 9:29 am
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I don't think he deserves this mythos he has.

I don't think he has a "mythos" above other riders really.

He's just a very fast racer who also does Rampage and sells a lot of pedals and bits.

He doesn't even do that many videos.

Can you not here the resignation in Claudio's voice when he talks about Brendan "just being Brendan"?

No, you are projecting that yourself.


 
Posted : 14/09/2016 9:30 am
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I think the physical fitness required on a lot of recent downhill tracks isn't pedalling fitness, it's the head to toe strength endurance required to control a bike equally well at the bottom of the track as at the top. These tracks are so physically demanding that it's impossible to have the same power and control after 3 minutes as out of the gate, but the closer you can be to 100%, the better you can execute the skill you have. Look how Danny held those last turns with his foot out - I bet last season he wouldn't have had the strength to execute what his skills were telling him to do at that point.


 
Posted : 14/09/2016 9:35 am
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Can you not here the resignation in Claudio's voice when he talks about Brendan "just being Brendan"?

To me Claudio sounds more disapointed in Neko Mulally's runs than in Brendogs


 
Posted : 14/09/2016 10:19 am
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I think Claudio is just passionate so don't read too much into it.


 
Posted : 14/09/2016 11:09 am
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Can you not here the resignation in Claudio's voice when he talks about Brendan "just being Brendan"?

No, you are projecting that yourself.

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I think Claudio is just passionate so don't read too much into it.

During his run in Andorra it sounded like Claudio had run out of that passion and basically run out of positive things to say about him. Sounded to me like he was resigned to another good, but unspectacular result


 
Posted : 14/09/2016 11:50 am
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Well Greg reckons he is starting testing, big changes but exciting ones so see what happens


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 4:03 am
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Yeah doesn't give much away about Josh does it, other than he looked blissfully happy to be there, doesn't look like a Lad about to give it all up.

Greg seems very exited for the future, he's not hanging up his boots yet!


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 8:48 am
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So guesses?
Santa Cruz leaving?
Santa Cruz setting up a different (non-syndicate) team?
Peaty setting up a team, or bringing his own Syndicate to the WC?

Lots of rumours earlier about Loic Bruni joining the SC Syndicate, but has gone quiet recently.


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 11:07 am
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I thought it was in the bag already that Luca Shaw was joining SC syndicate.

Also strong rumors that a big name is going to Canyon. Apparently lots of teams have been chasing Vergier, but I would be surprised if he splits with specialised and Bruni, can't see either of them jumping ship just yet.


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 11:13 am
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Fitness affects all areas including ability to focus mentally.

In so many sports over the past (say) 30 years the amount of cross training gym work is enormous, just riding your bike isn't going to be enough to be at the pointy end of the pack.

@Alex A Peaty team or Syndicate would be magic, it's a lot of coin required though ... something with Transition ?


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 11:50 am
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A new Yeti Syndicate team would be pretty exciting.


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 11:52 am
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I wouldn't begrudge Brendan a Mythos, though.

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Posted : 15/09/2016 12:01 pm
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So guesses?
Santa Cruz leaving?
Santa Cruz setting up a different (non-syndicate) team?
Peaty setting up a team, or bringing his own Syndicate to the WC?

Lots of rumours earlier about Loic Bruni joining the SC Syndicate, but has gone quiet recently.

Given how much SC has grown since Peaty joined in '06 and Minnar and Ratty joined in '08 - I don't think they're about to go changing the bait too much, but they need to come up with a fresh approach to it - losing Peaty and possibly Ratty leaves a big hole there.

Will Minnaar go off somewhere else? If he was going to go, now would be the time - losing his longest standing team mate(s) and friend(s) means there's a lot less to stay for - plus, just perhaps, he's not as keen on the bike any more - one of the mechanics said something interesting in an off-hand way in Ep7 of the Syndicate (possibly 6) Josh Brycland has never won an international race on the 650b V10, Peaty has never won on a 650b V10 (which is understandabe given the period in his career) and Greg has won once in 2 years, now some very good WC Racers have never won a WC or a Worlds, but Minnaar is the most successful racer in WC history and JB went from a massively dominating season to a pretty terrible on the new bike - lots more going on but the last 2 years have been pretty poor by the standards of the Syndicate.

I'm not sure if Peaty would take a full team or even a little one like the Syndicate on a full WC season without factory backing - there's no real prize money, the riders largely own their own jersey / short 'real estate' but still need paying - I don't know how it could fund itself - maybe a partnership deal like Gstaad-Scott.

Maybe something as mundane as a more traditional Factory Santa Cruz team, go big like Trek - Peaty and Kathy run it, Minnaar on the team with Luca Shaw and maybe a few less known up and comers, maybe heaven forbid a female rider - I think Tahnee Seagrave would be a good fit.


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 12:32 pm
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SC need a rider who will appeal to the Brits, I would wager the UK market is pretty important to them. As great as Loic is I don't think he'll sell SC's to Brits and I'd also wager the French don't buy many or will ever do so, US brand and far too expensive.

P-J that's very interesting about the 650b/275 results


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 12:36 pm
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Uh? Minnaar's one at least 3 times in the last two years and Josh at least once. (Quick Google) The 650b V10 came out mid 2014 - Josh Bryceland's winning year - can't remember but I'm sure he raced the last half of the season on 650b. (Edit: can't remember if won in the second half or not either admittedly)


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 12:52 pm
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Looking at Josh's palmeres, he has only actually had 2 senior world cup wins. He would have been on the 650b bike when he overjumped that bridge at the world champs.

I think to try and take any statistical evidence of 26 being better than 650b from that is grasping at straws in the extreme.


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 1:00 pm
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Bryceland won in Mont Saint Anne last year, which would have been on 650b.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/results-world-cup-dh-mont-sainte-anne-finals-2015.html


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 1:00 pm
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https://www.rootsandrain.com/u/ratboy/results/
He was the last man to win on 26" and followed it up winning on 650b.


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 1:25 pm
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@ P-jay, I think you miss heard the comment in the syndicate video. He was telling Josh he was the last person to win a WC race on 26" wheels.


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 1:27 pm
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and yet more BBC ignores mountain biking....
http://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/37362656


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 1:49 pm
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Sorry everyone, ignore my 650b V10 slamming nonsense, I based my 'research' on Wikipedia results and mistakenly assumed the 2014 race bike was 26" because the customer bike was still 26" at that point.

As you were.


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 1:56 pm
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Interesting that she talks about giving enduro a go in that bbc link , what odds ews , downhill world cup and world champion in one season


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 3:44 pm
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Look how Danny held those last turns with his foot out

He had the foor out because that was where Sam Hill went down


 
Posted : 15/09/2016 8:13 pm
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so, both Greg and Steve are entered into the last EWS round at Finale...Syndicate Enduro team?


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 10:51 am
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Probably more of a nice holiday to Italy, I reckon.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 11:03 am
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Steve has been very vocal about how he doesn't like Enduro.

I would be surprised if Greg moved full time but maybe like Sam Hill, he wants a change to keep it fresh.

Wouldn't surprise me if there were plans for a factory enduro team from Santa Cruz.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 11:12 am
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Steve has been very vocal about how he doesn't like Enduro.

indeed, but yet, there he is...on the start line.

In many ways it makes a lot of sense from Santa Cruz's perspective in terms of bikes and where their market share is. how many V10 vs Bronsons/Nomads do they shift, I wonder?


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 11:15 am
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Meh, big names from DH have turned up at various enduros and rarely make an impact (possible memories of Blenki doing well at Finale a couple of years ago?)

Also this:

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Probably more of a nice holiday to Italy, I reckon.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 11:40 am
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[quote=legend ]Meh, big names from DH have turned up at various enduros and rarely make an impact (possible memories of Blenki doing well at Finale a couple of years ago?)

err. have you seen sam hill this season?

#nevergofullenduro


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 11:43 am
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"rarely"


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 11:45 am
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Steve has been very vocal about how he doesn't like Enduro.

He was pretty keen til he discovered he wasn't that good at it 😆


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 12:03 pm
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Well it's gonna be a fascinating race anyway, even more so since I was riding some of the tracks this summer.

Anyone else see Greg's comments about not pre-riding and think he's just getting his excuses in early?


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 12:06 pm
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Steve has been very vocal about how he doesn't like Enduro.

He was pretty keen til he discovered he wasn't that good at it

You know you can be banished from all forms of mountain biking for saying such a thing don't you?


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 12:07 pm
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Meh, big names from DH have turned up at various enduros and rarely make an impact (possible memories of Blenki doing well at Finale a couple of years ago?)

Are you sure about that?

Most of the 'big name' DH guys who have raced at EWS's tend to do very well, considering. In fact it's rare they haven't made an impact. A brief look over the results shows a lot of the superstars end up in the top 20 - not bad seeing as it's quite a different fitness and riding requirement.

Greg has after all, come 3rd at one...


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 12:18 pm
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Meh, big names from [s]DH[/s] Enduro riders have turned up at various [s]enduros[/s] DH rounds and rarely make an impact

Racers like to go racing shocker...


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 12:21 pm
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Enduro vs DH, its a different discipline and I would say hard to move into when you are "too old" for DH as pedalling ability is pretty important.

Now that being said it would be great to able to keep seeing Steve racing

Legends DH anyone ?


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 12:43 pm
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[quote=jambalaya ]Enduro vs DH, its a different discipline and I would say hard to move into when you are "too old" for DH as pedalling ability is pretty important.

*cough*

14 EWS races
8 podiums
1 win
40 years old

https://www.rootsandrain.com/rider4997/nicolas-vouilloz/results/?org=137&s1=6&y=859


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 12:57 pm
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Peaty hasn't exactly embarrassed himself either

https://www.rootsandrain.com/u/peaty/results/?org=137


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 12:58 pm
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jambalaya » Enduro vs DH, its a different discipline and I would say hard to move into when you are "too old" for DH as pedalling ability is pretty important.

Do you ever come out with anything based on facts Jamby?

[url= https://www.rootsandrain.com/rider11706/fabien-barel/results/?eventtype=2 ]Fabien Barel[/url]


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 2:44 pm
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Another ex-DHer who can't pedal for toffee - [url= https://www.rootsandrain.com/rider748/tracy-moseley/results/ ]Tracey Moseley[/url]


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 3:06 pm
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Not to mention ACC.

😀


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 3:11 pm
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and another [url= https://dirtmountainbike.com/people/anne-caroline-chausson ]ACC[/url]

bugger, beaten to it 😡


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 3:11 pm
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AFICR Peaty never said he didn't like Enduro - he thinks it's great fun, but just doesn't think it stacks up as a professional sport with a level playing field.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 3:23 pm
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AFICR Peaty never said he didn't like Enduro

Yeah I think there was a clickbaity headline a little while ago about "Peaty slamming enduro" that was nothing of the sort.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 3:26 pm
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Can someone please point me in the direction of a video of the event?
Checked out Red Bull TV but I can't find it despite them having all the World Cup rounds available.
Ta.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 3:29 pm
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This is the only one when I looked the other week: http://rbtvwebsite.herokuapp.com/videos/event-stream-744/downhill-finals


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 3:36 pm
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Enduro is changing guys and getting much more serious. I said it was hard not impossible.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 3:39 pm
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[quote=jambalaya ]Enduro is changing guys and getting much more serious. I said it was hard not impossible.

😆


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 3:41 pm
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Many thanks acidtest.


 
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No worries, enjoy! It's a good one!


 
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