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Looks like theirs plans for a Derby Velodrome
[url= http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/Cycles-aHoy-council-unveils-163-50m-vision-sports/article-1604248-detail/article.html ]Derby Velodrome[/url]
Will it every happen ?
That's great news! I may need a new bike for it but I'll bear that cross when i have to 🙂
Moorways wouldn't be too bad a site - hell, it's 5mins from where i live - but I'm not holding my breath until building actually starts. There's plenty of time for DCC to get distracted by monorail plans and the like in the meantime...
ohhhhhhhhhhhh, thats nice
More to the point, why is Manchester getting a £19million building to house a £20,000 indoor BMX track?
Even their own figures don't add up, they recon on a larger attendance, 360 days a year, for the lifetime of the center, than even a well attended national race! (350+ per day IIRC). £19million, that'd buy 160 copies of the Derby's new BMX track, which would do much more for the sport! Indoor dream in Sheffield is the kinda scale that indoor BMX is just about viable at.
I'm all for investment in cycling, but £19million for a niche just because it's at the Olympics? That could buy a lot of trail center in parts of the country where people actualy live rather than Scotland, great for hollidays, but not for the majority of the population who live 7+hours from Glentress!
I think the chances of it happening are very remote. Councils like to make these announcements before any funding is in place.
It would be great if it did, would save an 160 mile round trip to Manchester.
Sounds a bit like a nice wish, to be honest, and will the Derby BSF happen?
Well Derby do seem to be on a re-generation mission!
re the BSF scheme; yup, AFAIK Noel Baker is pretty much finalised and they'r waiting for the dynamite and bulldozers.
It would be a great thing if it happened, start help a new generation of track racers.
In olden days, there was a velodrome as such at Moorways, back in the 1900-30s I think but got tore up in later life when the cycling part moved away from the athletics side[url= http://bygonederbyshire.co.uk/articles/Athletics_-_A_potted_History_of_the_Derby_club ]Ye'oldy type info[/url].
sounds like great news, the more the better and Manchester Velodrome shows how popular these things can be.
edit: Plus it'd stop those brummies coming up to Manchester. 😉
The velodrome was still there in the early / mid seventies but was taken down when Moorways was developed iirc.
Would be good and the plans for a 2km road circuit, probably a bit like Eastway stadium used to be would also be useful.
Derby Mercury have been expanding, even young people coming along, in the last 5 years or so and the Notts & Derby cx league is popular. Nice and central in England as well.
I really can't see the council paying £40m on a roofed velodrome, when for about 1.5% of that they could get a 250m outdoor track. Does the UK really need 6 covered velodromes?
£20m isnt just for the BMX track.......
There is a few retail outlets, office space, storage area, mechanics space and workshop, training facilities, and lots of other stuff.....
£19m would build a new school, benifiting 1000(ish) kids daily, could even put BMX on the PE curiculum if you liked.
Even if it lives upto its hype, its for 1/3rd of that.
It's a monumental waste of money. Anyone remember the national museum for poular music, or the milenium dome, spectacular examples of why top heavy initiatives don't work.
Spend the money putitng a BMX track in every town, or a pump track in every village?
or the milenium dome, spectacular examples of why top heavy initiatives don't work.
Although now isn't it the UK's most successful music venue, so sometimes things do work out okay in the end. Oh and Manchester Velodrome, the British Cycling track teams being spectacular examples of why a top heavy initiative can work (whether or not you agree with their targets of winning olympic medals etc. they clearly did what they set out to do).
£19m would build a new school,
Is there a big shortage of school places in the area? If not, what the heck would be the point of spending that money on making a new school, it hardly benefits anyone to have an empty school hanging around?
Joe
Looks the the new velodrome may be on my door step as the proposed site is Moorways.
[url= http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/sites-163-50m-city-sporting-overhaul-revealed/article-1701217-detail/article.html ]Derby Velodrome[/url]
I still don't consider that a roofed velodrome is good VFM. They'd be better off building a 250m open air training track like the ones that BC is proposing elsewhere.
I've never riden in a velodrome, but if the Derby on gets built its something I would like to do - and I get to buy a new bike! 😆
I think they were originally trying for one of the 250 open air tracks in Alvaston Park - so things have clearly moved on.
I can't wait, though another bike isn't going to go down very well 🙂
The problem with track cycling in this country is the weather. Outdoor tracks are great, but they are summer use venues, and even then training and race meets can be called off because of rain. Indoor tracks are great, because they can be used year round and can house other facilities.
However, let's not get carried away. Derby isn't actually *that* far from Manchester. The Manchester track would be even better utilised if there were more public training sessions, put on at times that aren't designed to suit Estlands/Sport City Velo. For example, Thursday nights have 40 riders every week. But, after the 8pm session, there is often a club booked session, where actually another SQT with another 40 riders would be better.
What are the rules of a velodrome then? Is it the kind of place you can just turn up to? or is it best to join a club and get some tips/instruction on how to ride?
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Looks like they are still talking about / planning the Velodrome.
[url= http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/4-000-seat-concert-hall-planned-Pride-Park/article-3425919-detail/article.html ]Derby Evening Telegraph[/url]
Lets hope it gets built and it's not another Derby Council White Elephant !!
The Derby Council 'news letter'
[url= http://www.derby.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/8C20CE22-A3E1-43EF-B159-1B661328017A/0/leisure_strat_email_march.pdf ]News Letter[/url]
Fingers Crossed !!
They're still being extremely optimistic about their budget. The Olympic velodrome has a publicly quoted cost of £90m, without a 50m swimming pool or a 4,000 seat concert hall.
And are you ok with two existing council leusire/sports centres being sold off to help pay for it? I still can't really believe that this stacks up.
Fingers Crossed? I'm waaaay passed that.
Already built up 2 track bikes in anticipation! 😯
Just think of all that fuel saved not travelling to Manchester.
Not sure I fancy a ball coming over the top of that barrier 😉 Here's hoping they pull it off, but I think it'll be unlikely. I really do want to be proved wrong though.
The original article says it'd be the fourth one:
"To have a velodrome in Derby is fantastic – the location is perfect and it complements the others in Manchester, Glasgow and London brilliantly.
What about Newport and Calshott?
Looks like it will be on Pride Park.
[url= http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/news/Pride-Park-confirmed-site-4-000-seater-sport-music-arena/article-3441365-detail/article.html ]Evening Telegraph[/url]
Great. We desperately need more velodromes 🙂
Still looking positive with the main contractor been chosen
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-14632177 ]BBC News[/url]
It is all a bit vague though:
[url= http://www.derby.gov.uk/PressReleases/pressreleases/arenadesign.htm ]The exact specification of the Multi Sport Arena will be decided after consultation with local sport clubs and the public. Facilitates in the Arena could include an indoor arena the size of 12 badminton courts, a 250m indoor cycle track, an indoor climbing centre, and a 150 station fitness and wellness centre. The facility could also include two multi-purpose exercise studios, a spinning studio and an outdoor road cycling circuit. It will be able to be transformed into a concert venue with up to 5,000 capacity.[/url]
Still a positive step, I assumed it would get canned outright. Pride Park was confirmed as the venue on the East Mids news last night.
Crikey, a national BMX track and now this is actualy happening? Someoen on the council clearly likes bikes!
thisisnotaspoon - Member
Crikey, a national BMX track and now this is actualy happening? Someoen on the council clearly likes bikes!
The legacy of Cycle Derby!
Encouraging certainly. Had previously missed the bit about the road circuit, wonder if suitable for road racing?
Sorry to see Queen St facility to go though, I learnt to swim there and now live a few minutes walk away.
New cycle track and a Premiership football team in 2014!
These are the detailed plans
[url= http://eplanning.derby.gov.uk/acolnet/planningpages02/acolnetcgi.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeDocs&TheSystemkey=92471 ]Plans[/url]
ohhhhhhhhhhh 🙂
I'd almost contemplate moving back to Derby, but then that would involve living in Derby.......... 😛
Does the UK really need 6 covered velodromes?
Yes if you live nowhere near one .Luckily I live in Somerset and Newport is only 1 1/4 hours away
Fantastic news. It's just a shame it's on Pride Park as that's a congested area for a whole set of other reasons.
Does the UK really need 6 covered velodromes?
Why not? If it's sustainable (I'm sure there's a business plan behind this). I will be buying a cheap track bike!
Its definately looking like it going to happen now. I'll wait for construction to start before ordering my new track bike.
According to Radio Derby construction could start around the time of the Olympics. And there is supposedly a good deal of interest already from companies wanting to use the venue.
Great news for Derby.
One step nearer now Planning Permission granted.The next, and biggest hurdle will be the local elections in May. If (when) the opposition get in they will try to 'pull the plug' and this exciting project will be lost forever!
Personally, it will save me a fortune in time and fuel hammering up to Manchester week in week out.
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this is exciting, 25 mins up the A38 from home. Definatley be putting an order if for that track bike
Interesting looking at those architect's renders. Is that kind of roof (casting different light patterns) typical? If I was using the courts in the centre it would drive me mad. Must be function over form and the real thing would get something more practical?
Hopefully the construction contract will be signed before the elections so it should go ahead. Also Derby have spent significant money getting to this stage and the money is already allocated in this years budget but I won't finally believe it and order a new track bike until construction starts.
If you live near Derby and fancy having a go at track riding before the Velodrome is built you can try the [url= http://www.foresttowntrack.co.uk/ ]Forest Town Track[/url] which is 25 miles away near Mansfield and a lot closer than Manchester. You will also find out some of the drawbacks of an outdoor track 😉
Does this mean the end to the Velodrome Plans ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-17929623
Labour have never supported the plans.
I seem to remember they said they said they'd stop it. Someone needs to tie the bus plan back to the "growth" objective.
If you are interested in the Velodrome and do not want to see it cancelled drop an email to Paul Bayliss, the new Labour leader.
Paul.Bayliss@derby.gov.uk
If we don't lobby now the whole thing may be scapped.
If you want to see a Velodrome in Derby it is now more important than ever to lobby the new Council as the decision to sign the contracts has now been past to the new Labour Council who upto now have not supported the project.
New Leader Paul.Bayliss@derby.gov.uk
Leisure & Culture martin.repton@derby.gov.uk