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Idiot. Anyone here know him? Another chance for the media to bash cyclists.
Another chance for the media to bash cyclists.
Don't be silly, it's another chance for the media to bash abusive, bullying bellends. That's all.
abusive, bullying bellends.
With only one side of the story it isn't clear which one of them that is. It seems that the alleged attack wasn't even sufficient to prevent her taking a picture.
Yes, it doesn't sound at all like like theres more to that story does it...
Seriously? What other side of the story are you waiting to hear?
Gatsby nails it.
Starting this thread will give that article more hits and promote the anti-cyclist agenda. It's a one-side story with little detail and the fact he was on a bike appears irrelevant.
Nothing to see here.
Its more Sale than Chorlton. So Chorlton borders. Its very close to Merseybank too. Which is a council estate. Its definitely not Chorlton Green. They don't do this kind of frightful thing in Chorlton. If they demolished the council estate, this kind of thing wouldn't happen.
Will somebody please think of the ethically sourced, soil association approved, organic fairtrade dog walkers, who don't want to inhibit the creativity of their animals by imposing the arbritary, restrictive conventions of society on them, through inhumanely shackling them with a lead
3 months after the event?
Can't wait for this to hit the Chorlton fb group... The only den of online idiots that is bigger than this forum.
England's leading magistrate is reported as saying yesterday, while throwing out the Dr Fox DJ sexual assault cases, that he believed all the complainants were telling the truth.......... but he still threw the case out.
Maybe there is just no point.
There is no justice so forget about it.
that flight of steps is actually 3 steps, about 2ft high 😀
What other side of the story are you waiting to hear?
Well the one where a women starts screaming at a bloke on a bike because her poor out of control mongrel was inconvenienced and attacked him, took his photo while he stood there with a confused look on his face, she was so incandescent with rage that she then tripped over her own out of control dog and fell down a couple of stairs, but still appearers to be unharmed (apart from looking very stupid and having clear temper management issues).
With that high quality photo hopefully he'll be arrested soon. It is a bit strange its being released now given incident was in September as spotted by @slowoldman
@billy you have to have supporting evidence to convict someone, one persons word against another is not sufficient.
Superb MSP,do you write Jambalayas politics posts in your spare time?
It is just as plausible as the bullshit in the article. Why do you accept that so readily?
To be honest walking your dog round there, aggressive cyclists is the last thing you should be worrying about.
Its the blokes in corsets you need to look out for 😯
England's leading magistrate is reported as saying yesterday, while throwing out the Dr Fox DJ sexual assault cases, that he believed all the complainants were telling the truth.......... but he still threw the case out.
Is perfectly possible for him to believe that, for example, Foxy smacked her on the bum or 'air bummed' her and it made her feel upset - therefore in that element he would believe the complainant
its another thing for him to believe that, for example, Foxys motivation for doing so was sexual rather than a joke, prank, or just arseing about in the studio. I've certainly worked in an environment where that type of stuff went on (not all the time, but if you took a few events out of context it would be easy to give the wrong impression)
@billy you have to have supporting evidence to convict someone, one persons word against another is not sufficient.
? I really don't think thats the case.
And he was not wearing a helmet.
He looks a bit like me. That "cyclist", not DJ Fox.
The story does look one-sided.
Try, cyclist attacked by uncontrolled dog, then by the enraged woman when he defends himself by kicking at the dog. He pushes her away, she stumbles down a couple of steps.
It seems just as probable as the above story
He looks like the average STer off here, opinionated, doesnt like dogs or women, and likes to get some publicity in the media, next will be a you tube video, and appearance on some daytime tv sofa.
[s]And[/s] he was [s]not wearing[/s] a helmet.
Hold on this happened in September, why is it just, and I use the term loosely, news now?
As Bob Mortimer observed about Dr Fox: He's not a real doctor, and he's not a real fox, so he's already lied to you twice
Hold on this happened in September, why is it just, and I use the term loosely, news now?
Knowing Chorlton, its probably a precursor to her launching a victim support group for the targets of cycle-rage, applying for a government research grant to investigate this worrying phenomenon, and getting a weekly column in the Guardian Health section to comment on this and other niche society ills that effect uber-****y middle class suburbs
looks a bit like it's a still from a video - victim should post that up so we can see how it all developed, whatever "it" was
They clearly had a row if she had time to get the phone out (unless she was already videoing Binners in his basque). We'd miss the very start but I guess the push would be in there
Rhod Gilberts aged a bit!
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Can't possibly be the cyclists fault right? 🙄
IF he did indeed push her head against railings, or down some stairs then he deserves all he gets, regardless of whether the pooch was on a lead or not.
Surely a more effective protest, given the alleged 'problem' would have been to just pick her dog up and hoy it off the bridge into the Mersey?
He looks like the average STer off here, opinionated, doesnt like dogs or women, and likes to get some publicity in the media, next will be a you tube video, and appearance on some daytime tv sofa.
Nah, the average STWer loves dogs above all else and wouldve set laid the guy out for even looking at their dog cos dogs fun iz more important than peoples safety.
It could, but that photo and an accusation don't make it so.Can't possibly be the cyclists fault right?
Who do you imagine would disagree with that ?IF he did indeed push her head against railings, or down some stairs then he deserves all he gets, regardless of whether the pooch was on a lead or not.
He MAY be an angry, violent ****, or she may be - or neither and she's just prone to hyperbole
It's almost never exactly as one party portrays it - look at all those helmet/dashboard camera vids where you don't see "injured" party winding up the other first
Speculation is pointless - so here I go as devil's advocate 😀
What if she was obstructing his path across the bridge because he shouted at the doggywoggy and he pushed past (then I imagine the amount of force used would be the key, wouldn't it ?)
...or they were having a row, she swung a slap or a blue bag'o'shite at him and in raising his arm he knocked her to the side (we all know that bikers are all ninja-trained after all)
Can't possibly be the cyclists fault right?
Well it could be, but the account as given seems implausible, and frankly the picture looks to be more startled and confused than angry.
As an aside to add a bit more flavour, I've got the KOM for going over that (foot)bridge
scaled, I think we need a photo of your face
I would also appeal to the person directly to contact police so we can rule you out of our inquiries.
I'd say the police are at least open to the possibility that the "victim's" account might be open to challenge...
It could, but that photo and an accusation don't make it so.
absolutely, there does however seem to be some wild theories of what could have happened here in defense of the "cyclist". None are more likely that the events as described, in fact less so as the posters weren't there.
scaled - Member
As an aside to add a bit more flavour, I've got the KOM for going over that (foot)bridge
Jackson's boat?
If you're asking somebody to state how they felt an argument started, progressed and ended, I think someone who wasn't involved may well have a better chance of being objective about itin fact less so as the posters weren't there.
If the guy was passing and wanted just to bang her head against the railings and then push her down the steps, how did she ever get the phone going in time ?
Whatever actually happened, that bridge isn't wide enough for a cyclist to pass a walker safely.
absolutely, there does however seem to be some wild theories of what could have happened here in defense of the "cyclist
I think your mistaking wild speculation to demonstrate the stupidly one sided reporting account, as a defence of violence. Some of us just don't accept the story at face value.
Whatever actually happened, that bridge isn't wide enough for a cyclist to pass a walker safely.
It really is, I've been over that bridge over 900 times on a bike and never felt the need to get off to pass someone.
Jackson's boat?
Yup
I thought I recognised it. I'm hampered on the KOM attempt heading to the Sale side because I turn sharp right along the river and them cobbles have caught me out more than once 😆
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I'd agree with acidchunks though. It probably is wide enough but too close for (the pedestrians) comfort IMO.
How wide are your bars?
I think someone who wasn't involved may well have a better chance of being objective about it
Even if the only information they have is a few lines on a police site? I doubt that.
I think your mistaking wild speculation to demonstrate the stupidly one sided reporting account
How can it be anything other than one sided? They only have one side!
I've no idea what happened, neither have any of us. I'm not rushing to the defense of this bloke just because he happened to be riding a bike though.
Surely a more effective protest, given the alleged 'problem' would have been to just pick her dog up and hoy it off the bridge into the Mersey?
Binners in biker mode earlier:
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This story is being shared on Facebook now, which will get the anti-cyclist dog-lovers frothing at the mouth
I put money on the altercation starting with the little poo machine, words were probably exchanged and she'll have got all uppity, took a photo and he'll have lost his shit and pushed past her causing her to stumble down the steps (yes there are about 3 of them).
This has now turned into innocent lady little (who wouldn't say boo to a goose) attacked, for no reason whatsoever, by psychotic cyclist.
Anyway, I dont know what the police are interested as it sounds it'll be her word against his and we all know you need 3 independent witnesses before its actually a crime....of is that just when people in cars try and kill people on bikes?
Cyclists are as bad as the police when it comes to closing ranks to cover up for one of their own.
I put money on the altercation starting with the little poo machine, words were probably exchanged and she'll have got all uppity, took a photo and he'll have lost his shit and pushed past her causing her to stumble down the steps (yes there are about 3 of them).
WTAF?
Cyclists are as bad as the police when it comes to closing ranks to cover up for one of their own.
Nobody is 'closing ranks' or 'covering up'. They are simply pointing out that the simple 'evil cyclist chucked woman downstairs in unprovoked assault ' story is unproven, and alternatives exist. And since cyclists are not an organised group 'one of their own' has no meaning.
not protecting the guy ffs, he's clearly lost his shit and should be dealt with (assuming the police actually have a case against him) but the whole story does stink.
There is barely any story to go on! A couple of lines, and you have somehow established (to the point you'd bet on it) exactly what has happened!
The whole "cyclists" thing is a nonsense too. It's just normal people riding bicycles. There is as much chance of one being a penis as there is a car driver or lollypopman or greengrocer.
Well a few lines of a story, and a picture of a rather confused looking man.
Oh I'd bet on it.....I'm sucker for a long shot 🙂
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How wide are your bars?
Not as wide as my arse.
Thought I'd get the flight of steps for context on the way home
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Plus, bridge is plenty wide enough:p
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Do you have to clear the steps for the Strava segment?
I'm sure we can all imagine the reality of rhis story.
Whatever that turns out to be even as a fairly evangelical cyclist I do get bothered by the intense looking serious commuter types turning themselves inside out on their journey to and from work.
I imagine when their finished with being knobs on bikes their knobs on cars and knobs at work/ home etc.
We need to be really careful that well-established national news outlets like ITV are allowed to publish what is at this point only an accusation in a way which looks like they're reporting facts... it very much positions that guy as someone who's committed an unprovoked assault and suggests his form of transport has something to do with his alleged behaviour. When all we actually know is that a woman has made an accusation to the Police...
I guess this kind of propaganda is centuries old though - maybe it's only with social media that we're realising how much things get twisted in the hands of media outlets...