[Closed] Cyclist headbutts pedestrian told off for jumping red light

Most people on here drive - shall we have a post like this for every hit and run car driver?

Okay, so it was a bit OTT to headbutt the guy, but he appeared to have badmouthed the cyclist first, is that right?

neverraced

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Okay, so it was a bit OTT to headbutt the guy, but he appeared to have badmouthed the cyclist first, is that right?

No, 😆 The first act was trying to run the guy down if you are trying to figure out where blame lies.

Cyclist is a bawbag.

wwaswas

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Most people on here drive – shall we have a post like this for every hit and run car driver?

It's not a car driving forum though. 😆

It’s not a car driving forum though

this isn't posted in a bike forum, it's in General (also 😆 if you like)

No helmet 😱😱😱😱

"Dickhead who happens to be riding a bike, acts like a dickhead towards a bloke who told him not to be a dickhead...."

“Dickhead who happens to be riding a bike, acts like a dickhead towards a bloke who told him not to be a dickhead….”

This seems about right.

a bit OTT to headbutt the guy,

Yes, he may have crept over the boundaries of polite human interaction there.

Oooof !

Needs moar video, though

As ever, seems there was a bit of verbals and I guess from the still pic, possibly a bit of "obstruction" from the pedestrian - nobody usually gets butted for "I say, do be careful"

I suppose it's also possible that city dude (6 inches taller ?) fancied his chances and was offering him out and the rider was "defending himself", yer honour

Speculation aside, right enough, guy on the bike was a cock (but generally takes two to start a fight, or at least to start an an argument and then one to start the fight)

The full video gives a clearer idea of who the dickhead is:

BBC

As CFH and ads678 suggest.
Man acting like a prick while using a bike.
Take away the bike, he would still act like a prick.
Put him in a car, he would still act like a prick.
Driving a van, he would still act like a prick.
In an HGV, he would still act like a prick.
Give him a Jet-Ski, he would still act like a prick.
He was refused access to a Milkfloat, because the dairy suspected he would act like a prick.
Skiing, he would act like a prick.
Bowling, he would still act like a prick.
In the pub, he would act like a prick.
His default setting is……….. he would act like a prick.

The full video gives a clearer idea of who the dickhead is:

Spoiler: It's still Mr Headbutt.

I know this is a bike forum and all, but how TF are there posts on this thread that are inferring that there may have been more to this, and thus making it even remotely acceptable/excusable?
The guy on the bike was not in mortal peril, defending his life. This is nothing other than thuggish ****ery.
FFS.
Despair.

Cargobikedude is the star of the show.

No reaction whatsoever 😂

amazed at the number of people who just accepted someone being assaulted as part of daily life and just saunter off, except for the blond lady and man in a suit, everyone else didnt really give a $hit.

amazed at the number of people who just accepted someone being assaulted as part of daily life and just saunter off, except for the blond lady and man in a suit, everyone else didnt really give a $hit.

London innit, if you listen to the media, getting involved in something like that will get you knifed or shot.

No reaction whatsoever

Whoah there! He reaches for his phone at the end, probably to call the cops. Or stick a picture of the bloodied banker on his Instagram.

#ThatLondon

Aye the 'don't give a fek' attitude of the cycle courier sat in the cargo bike is pretty shameful!!

The full video gives a clearer idea of who the dickhead is:

Certainly does, and what an utter dickhead

#ThatLondon

and that.

Not any "cyclist" I identify with. Just a **** with a bike.

Dickhead riding a bike runs a red light. Annoyed pedestrian says something (I would have done too). Dickhead reacts.

Dickhead does dickhead.

Dick.

Having seen the BBC version, "cyclist" totally to blame for the initial near miss and an utter prick from then on. Hope he's found soon.

Does seem an extreme over reaction...

Yeah - if the pedestrian had walked across when the light was at green for the cyclist then there would have been an amount of sympathy for the cyclist being annoyed but physical assault like that still isn't justified.

If I headbutted everyone that I've been in a near miss with my head would be worn to a stump by now.

If bikes had number plates and insurance he’d be a lot easier to identify...

Did they ever find the bloke (runner?) who pushed the woman in front of the bus on a bridge in London?

cyclist deserves a good kicking...

Interesting innit. Some people just seem to be on a hair trigger. I swore (slightly under my breath, think I said "for f@#ks sake") after another cyclist cut me up on entrance to canal towpath. Never seen anyone get off his bike so fast and square up ready to go. Unbelievable. I talked him down in the end and we shook hands, but he was ready to go for a muttered comment that wasn't actually personal to him. Takes all sorts I guess.

Goes without saying that headbutt guy is a dick and deserves to have the book thrown at him

This story is also on main page of the BBC news website. Whatever the details of the actual incident, featuring the story is just lazy journalism, playing on the whole 'all cyclists are a*holes' populist thing just for a few cheap clicks. Pretty poor really esp of the BBC

Dickhead yes but q the disproportionate coverage and media hate filled attacks on cyclists. How many hours of coverage did they trawl to find that. I suspect they ignored hours of pedestrians jumping out of the way of speeding cars driven by distracted drivers without a comment. I see unbelievably aggressive and dangerous driving by looking out of my office window.

To be fair, the BBC site has been like cross between the Daily Mail letters page and Women's Own for yonks...

It looks a bit like the suit guy takes a swipe at the bellend as he zips past on the bike.

Bike rider the clearly at fault here. There may have been a few verbals from the fella in a suit, as would be his right with that kind of near miss, but no excuse for the bike riders reaction at all.

"Small man exhibits small man syndrome"

You would have thought with all the CCTV in the swingeing city he would've been collared by now.

It looks a bit like the suit guy takes a swipe at the bellend as he zips past on the bike.

On what planet did you see that ?
Pedestrian rotates his body and pulls his arm up to avoid it being hit by the cyclist.

Some people just seem to be on a hair trigger.

Combined with not realising or accepting they are in the wrong. Same with every argument I have had with a car driver who stops for a row.

On what planet did you see that ?

I'm guessing that's taxispeak for "I don't agree".

Pedestrian rotates his body and pulls his arm up to avoid it being hit by the cyclist.

Yes, probably.

I’m guessing that’s taxispeak for “I don’t agree”.

Nothing taxi related, just a variant of an old favourite.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=what%20planet%20are%20you%20from

I bet that pedestrian is a surfer type who wears no top.

the swingeing city

Kudos if intentional.

does he actually headbutt him? I reckon it's faked.
maybe.

does he actually headbutt him? I reckon it’s faked.
maybe.

🤔🤔

The 57-year-old man needed stitches to a wound above his eye, and suffered ligament damage to his arm, police said.

Obviously an elaborate ruse to discredit cyclists 🙄🙄

oh ok, so an elaborate fake 😉

Idiot does idiot and any comments will be along the lines of......

****ing cyclists, scourge of the street, should be licensed and pay road tax, something, something Brexit, cars are much betterer.

Lol. The amount of victim-blaming in this thread is quite amusing.

Turns out people on bike forums can be hypocritical cun... idiots too 🙂

Dickhead riding a bike runs a red light.

When people talk about "running" red lights I assume they mean cycling through traffic lights at junctions, not pedestrian crossings. I regularly "run" traffic lights if there's nothing about but this was effectively just riding down (a close miss) a pedestrian who assumed he was safe with the lights in his favour.

I regularly “run” traffic lights if there’s nothing about but this was effectively just riding down (a close miss) a pedestrian who assumed he was safe with the lights in his favour.

If you ride on the road you should follow the rules of the road. Can you imagije if everybody took that attitude? Mayhem!

I regularly “run” traffic lights if there’s nothing about

SCOURGE OF THE STREETS!

Typical arsehole bike courier against typical arrogance of a tall suit trying to make a point and make him brake, clearly saw him coming, just two arseholes clashing heads. Normal pedestrian would have just stopped, avoided a near miss and shouted dickhead at him, no sympathy for him but the bike courier wants locking up, they're like boy racers relying on everyone else being good drivers.

but he was ready to go for a muttered comment that wasn’t actually personal to him

I knew someone like that. Former cycle courier and quite excitable. Saw him doing something illegal on a bike once so shouted some abuse at him. Brakes got slammed on and he turned round to respond aggressively before recognising me and laughing. Pretty certain if I had been some stranger instead of an occasional riding partner it would have been fight time.

Typical arsehole bike courier against typical arrogance of a tall suit trying to make a point and make him brake

I cant say I saw anyhing which made the "suit" look vaguely responsible.
The cyclist was an arsehole.
Whilst some idiots would use it in their campaign to blame cyclists for everything overall it really doesnt say much of interest. What would be amazing if somehow there werent some cyclists who were arseholes and occasionally got caught. Personally I prefer the arseholes to be cyclists since generally that means they are less dangerous than the same idiot in a car.

I dislike the term cyclist as it puts us STW types in the same category as Monsieur Bellend in the video. He's not a cyclist, he's someone riding a bike, an illegal bike for that matter as he only has one brake, I'm suprised the BBC didn't pick up on that.. "Cyclist, on illegal bike, with no helmet and no hi viz headbutts pedestrian"

Someone riding a bike is a cyclist. Same as someone behind the wheel of an automobile is a driver. It's as simple as that. They can also be a total pricks. It doesn't mean that all cyclists are total pricks. Arguing over semantics doesn't help anyone. It just makes the rest of the world think that a higher proportion of cyclists are pedantic asshats.

If you ride on the road you should follow the rules of the road. Can you imagije if everybody took that attitude?

Can you imagine what would happen if a significant proportion of drivers decided that certain traffic rules don’t apply to them? Hold on, we don’t need to imagine that..

This story is also on main page of the BBC news website. Whatever the details of the actual incident, featuring the story is just lazy journalism, playing on the whole ‘all cyclists are a*holes’ populist thing just for a few cheap clicks. Pretty poor really esp of the BBC

This is apparently "what people want".

Perhaps that in itself raises on ton of Q's ... starting with how do we know what people want?

Underyling this is the old "headline" (it worked for the thread in that you, I and others are reading)

In the past to look past provocative headlines you had to pay your 10p (or whatever) to read the crap in the Sun/Mirror now you just pay by "personal data credit"
BBC (or other funding) is click driven and its a race to the bottom.

Someone riding a bike is a cyclist. Same as someone behind the wheel of an automobile is a driver. It’s as simple as that. They can also be a total pricks. It doesn’t mean that all cyclists are total pricks. Arguing over semantics doesn’t help anyone. It just makes the rest of the world think that a higher proportion of cyclists are pedantic asshats.

I hear you, and agree, I just don't like being tarred with the same brush.. the usual "all you cyclist run red lights", "you cyclists ride of pavements.." etc.. after suffering a particularly bad punishment pass from a guy a work his justification was because "cyclists run red lights.."

after suffering a particularly bad punishment pass from a guy a work his justification was because “cyclists run red lights..”

Unfortunately someone as stupid as that guy is unlikely to be convinced by using bike rider instead of cyclist.
I would tend to agree with avoiding the use of "cyclist" on occasion eg there have been some cases where someone does a robbery and escapes on a bicycle and the headline is "cyclist robs someone". Which clearly is irrelevant and we dont have all the other headlines saying "car driver robs someone".
Put a brick through his windscreen and leave a note it was because "car drivers run red lights".
An always fun test in the cyclists running red lights is to ask what is the correct response when a light goes to amber. However reasoning with stupid is generally only entertaining as opposed to getting good outcomes.

BBC (or other funding) is click driven and its a race to the bottom.

Always was - it just used to be lighthearted diversionary stuff when I worked there as the site was first gaining popularity. The news site in general had a more playful edge, perhaps reflecting the novelty of web-based news.

I think that the appetite for clickbait violence has grown significantly since then, at the expense of 'and finally' type news. It's a shame to see them slavishly following it down, though.

I regularly “run” traffic lights if there’s nothing about...

Regardless of how you try to justify it, you are part of the problem.

Stop for red lights, as the law requires. Its that simple.

Always was

– it just used to be lighthearted diversionary stuff when I worked there as the site was first gaining popularity. The news site in general had a more playful edge, perhaps reflecting the novelty of web-based news.

I think that the appetite for clickbait violence has grown significantly since then, at the expense of ‘and finally’ type news. It’s a shame to see them slavishly following it down, though.

I was actually referring to pre-internet BBC.
However agree with the rest... it's not just violence though it's anything that sparks negative emotions or creates opposing sides in comments (leading back to negative emotions).

I was actually referring to pre-internet BBC.

The truth is that before the web, the BBC and other outlets didn't really know what people wanted. The instant feedback in click data prompted them to move away from the bulletin formula of 'here's a funny tortoise' towards what people actually want. Which, increasingly, is stuff about sex, about death, about conflict.

It is changing from offering something new or unexpected, to simply being a mirror for our worst sentiments.

I hear you, and agree, I just don’t like being tarred with the same brush.. the usual “all you cyclist run red lights”, “you cyclists ride of pavements..” etc.. after suffering a particularly bad punishment pass from a guy a work his justification was because “cyclists run red lights..”

I don't have any actual numbers but that isn't really so important as it is perception that matters in public senitiment.

I

remember

far more of the no-helmet, red-light running cyclists than I do well behaved ones (on roads)

This is particularly when you see a whole load of people on bikes or BSO's run a red light (or cycle through Asda on FB/YT). I've seen commuter cyclists unable top stop at a red light because of the other "cyclists" so even the ones who want to stop can't. (Obviously I mean safely and I mean inexperienced cyclists)

I've also seen loads of well behaved cyclists lots... except I don't really remember them the same like the rest of the public.

Its sad but I don't think we can take back the word "cyclist" ... and we can't change what people (gen public) remember but we can stop defending nobs and declaim them as being cyclists.

On what planet did you see that ?
Pedestrian rotates his body and pulls his arm up to avoid it being hit by the cyclist.

I certainly saw it, but then again the dickhead on the bike was being a dickhead. Running red lights when it's clear is one thing, running them and flying past pedestrians with mm to spare and people are going to take offence. I've had the same happen when walking about town with cars and tbh it's just as annoying, and they are equally unhappy when you hit or kick their car on its way past after they've driven through a red light at you.

In a perfect world, city slicker wouldn't reach out and slap (or "accidentally swing his hand about") the cyclist. But tbh it's perfectly understandable and I hope they catch the nob end of a cyclist for headbutting him. Nothing more than a selfish thug.

The truth is that before the web, the BBC and other outlets didn’t really know what people wanted. The instant feedback in click data prompted them to move away from the bulletin formula of ‘here’s a funny tortoise’ towards what people actually want. Which, increasingly, is stuff about sex, about death, about conflict.

It is changing from offering something new or unexpected, to simply being a mirror for our worst sentiments.

I think my point is clicks don't actually measure what people want .. they measure what people click on. Most of us don't actually want to see a mirror of our worse sentiment but we click anyway. (Perhaps we click less ... but I still click stuff then wonder wtf I'm doing ... it's a bit like rubber necking perhaps and we might be driving and ignore it but when you're in stationary traffic and there is nothing else) ???

In other words we don't want to see traffic accidents but we look (click) anyway.
If I applied the same logic then I'd come to the conclusion that people actually WANT traffic accidents because they looked.

The surfing dog or funny tortoise .. dunno isn't that just trying to fill a pregnant pause ??

cyclist deserves a good kicking…

He will probably get one sooner or later. Running an attitude like that, one day he will inevitably pick on the wrong guy. There was a guy I new back in school who looked like a typical nerdy, skinny teenager who bullies like to pick on. Except he was as hard as nails. The combination led to some interesting "vigilante" beatings when the bullies had a go.

Oh, I thought resurrection meant they'd found the headbutter. But no, just the same stuff over again. Oh well.

dunno about you lot but from now on I intend on using the phrase
'I say, do be careful'
more often from now on.

Oh, I thought resurrection meant they’d found the headbutter. But no, just the same stuff over again. Oh well.

What do you mean resurrection? The thread is only a day old and half the threads on this page are within the last hour. Maybe come back next week to see if they caught him.

I mean it died yesterday. Obviously.